Hi Diana, I do not know if anybody answered your Query but I never saw your original E-mail only a reply from a Roy Stockdill ? but the Tring parish records at HALs have John Cutler and Ann Bull of this Parish married by Banns this 11th day of October 1773 by Tho's Jeans Clerk,John signed the register JohnCuttler and Ann put her mark. Wit Otto Jones and William Ogorman ?( Surname hard to read ) Some Baptisms- Dec 5 1773 Sarah dau of John and Ann Cutler Nov 19 1775 Elizabeth dau of John and Ann Cutler Oct 12 1777 Joseph son of John and Ann Cutler. NOV 7 1779 James son of John and Ann Cutler I could not find any mention of Johns or Ann's Baps at Tring or their Baps or marriage at Hemel. Regards Derick Hi Derick, Thank you for your email - your information confirms what I have on the tree but appears that Hemel Hempstead is wrong then - and that I should have Tring as the place of birth for both John and Ann? Anyway, this creates another query. I do have a son in the middle of the ones you have named - George Cutler born 1776. He is down as belonging to this family because the will by Joseph Garnett bequeaths: "First I give and devise unto my nephew John Cutler all that my messuage or tenement now in my occupation situate in Frogmore End in Tring aforesaid with the warehouse and workshops and also the Rights Members and Appurtenances to the same adjoining or belonging to hold unto my said nephew John Cutler and his assigns for and during the term of his natural life. And from and immediately after his decease I give and devise the said premises with the Appurts. unto his son George Cutler his heirs and assigns for ever. Also I give and bequeath unto my said nephew John Cutler the sum of two hundred pounds of lawful money of Great Britain to be paid to him by my Executors herein after maund within one year next after my decease. And I also give him all my weaving apparel to be delivered to him immediately." I have no idea how the connection is made between the Garnetts and the Cutlers - I need to know the siblings of Joseph Garnett and John Cutler to see if any marriages occurred. And why isn't George on the baptisms list? George Cutler definitely took up the canvas weaving business as he mentions it all in his own will when he died in 1848. Thanks for helping. Regards, Diana