I would like to thank everyone for their responses, they were all greatly appreciated. The birth of my James is a real puzzle. I know quite a bit about his activities and his Australia families etc since his arrival in here, but it's his life prior to his arrival that is not known. All the shipping record said was that he arrived from London, but he probably traveled to London to board the ship/boat. The names of his children were, Ann Titmouse/Titmus East, James East, William East, John East, Thomas Springford East (died in infancy), Richard Springford East (died in infancy), Springford East, Maria East, Mary Elizabeth East and Martha East. Once the New Festivities etc are over I will start to follow up leads everyone has been kind enough to give me. We are going away camping on the week end with our children and their families, so it will be an active, noisy and fun time. Once again thanks and a Happy and safe New Year to all. Kind Regards Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-hertfordshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:46 AM Subject: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 246 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. East Family Research (Kat53) > 2. Re: East Family Research (Tony Harrison) > 3. Re: East Family Research (Beverley) > 4. Re: East Family Research (Janet Booth) > 5. Re: East Family Research (Peter Jarman) > 6. East Family Research (elizabeth howard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:16:40 +1100 > From: "Kat53" <karaf.13@bigpond.com> > Subject: [HRT] East Family Research > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <11220429BDAF4029AB5C65A1A42EFF53@HomePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All > > I'm new to the list and I'm an East researcher from Australia. I have been > trying for several years to find some info on my 3xgreat grandfather James > East born circa 1809 in the UK. He arrived in Tasmania as a free settler > about 1827, as far as I know he was on his own, no other family members > with him. I have not been able to find a birth for my James. > > I tried a different approach a few days ago, he had named his first > daughter Ann Titmouse East, which I had always thought was a strange name > to give a child. So I searched Titmouse marriages and found an Elizabeth > Titmouse had married a John East (b circa 1775) on 20 May 1802 in GUILDEN > MORDEN, CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLAND. So I am thinking that this could very > well be a connection to my James East. Does anyone out there have any > connection or info about this family? > > A kind lady suggested he information below; > The records for each place run from the 1500's through to the mid 1800's, > but between 1807 and 1813 the children of John and Elizabeth East could > have been born at villages whose records aren't on the IGI - perhaps over > the border into Hertfordshire. > > Regards > Kath > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:13:53 -0000 > From: "Tony Harrison" <a.harrison@tesco.net> > Subject: Re: [HRT] East Family Research > To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D418D106726E4AECAB7CCAEE87E9D647@Tony> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Kath > If you do a parent search on IGI for John East spouse Elizabeth it brings > up > 6 children born either in Guilden Morden or Steeple Morden although there > is > no James but it looks as though this is where they lived. Cannot find > anything for James in Hertfordshire. Have you found James death in > Tasmania > or anywhere in Australia. If after 1853 his death certificate will give > his > parents names including his mothers maiden name. > Regards > Tony > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kat53" <karaf.13@bigpond.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM > Subject: [HRT] East Family Research > > >> Hi All >> >> I'm new to the list and I'm an East researcher from Australia. I have >> been >> trying for several years to find some info on my 3xgreat grandfather >> James >> East born circa 1809 in the UK. He arrived in Tasmania as a free settler >> about 1827, as far as I know he was on his own, no other family members >> with him. I have not been able to find a birth for my James. >> >> I tried a different approach a few days ago, he had named his first >> daughter Ann Titmouse East, which I had always thought was a strange name >> to give a child. So I searched Titmouse marriages and found an Elizabeth >> Titmouse had married a John East (b circa 1775) on 20 May 1802 in GUILDEN >> MORDEN, CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLAND. So I am thinking that this could very >> well be a connection to my James East. Does anyone out there have any >> connection or info about this family? >> >> A kind lady suggested he information below; >> The records for each place run from the 1500's through to the mid 1800's, >> but between 1807 and 1813 the children of John and Elizabeth East could >> have been born at villages whose records aren't on the IGI - perhaps over >> the border into Hertfordshire. >> >> Regards >> Kath >> >> >> Hertfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:10:45 +1100 > From: Beverley <adslm2xd@tpg.com.au> > Subject: Re: [HRT] East Family Research > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4B39FFD5.5020601@tpg.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > Colonial Tasmanian Family Links Detail > > /See bottom of this page for explanation of symbols./ > > > EAST, JAMES > > Gender: Male > Birth > Marriage/Relationship: 1831 - LAUNCESTON,Tasmania ( BRENNAN, OR BAKE > MARY <javascript:submitMarriedSearch()> ) [@] > Death: > > FAMILY INFORMATION > Children: > 116365 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116365> > EAST ANN > TITMUS 1832 > 116367 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116367> > EAST JAMES > 1833 > 116366 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116366> > EAST JOHN > 1837 > 116362 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116362> > EAST THOMAS > S 1839 > 116363 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116363> > EAST M > 1839 > 116364 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116364> > EAST RICHARD > SPRINGFORD 1841 > 116368 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116368> > EAST SPRINGFORD > 1843 > 116369 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116369> > EAST MARIA > 1845 > 116360 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116360> > EAST MARY > ELISABETH 1848 > 116361 > <http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=116361> > EAST MARTHA > ESTHER 1851 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:30:21 -0000 > From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> > Subject: Re: [HRT] East Family Research > To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <48846DAF788B411B8DB75E8C66F59695@JanetHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Kath, > >>From the Cambs FHS Parish Register Transcripts of Guilden Morden: > > 20 May 1802 John EAST, bachelor, of the parish married Elizabeth > TITMOUSE, > spinster, of the parish. > Both made their mark. Witnesses: Joseph PEARCE & John HALL > > Baptisms: > > 30 April 1780 Elizabeth TITMOSS dau Abel & Sarah TITMOSS > > 7 March 1803 John EAST son John & Elizabeth EAST > 26 February 1805 Edith EAST dau John & Elizabeth EAST > 26 August 1807 Sarah EAST dau John & Elizabeth EAST > > Burials: > > 23 February 1785 Abel TITMOSS, pauper > 15 December 1801 Sarah TITMOUSE, widow > > 23 July 1803 John EAST son John & Elizabeth > > John & Elizabeth seem to disappear from Guilden Morden after 1807. They > look as if they may reappear in Steeple Morden from 1813: > > Baptisms: > > 23 May 1813 Eliza EAST dau John & Elizabeth EAST, Labourer > 14 July 1816 John EAST son John & Elizabeth EAST, Labourer > 25 April 1824 Elizabeth EAST son John & Elizabeth EAST, > Labourer > > Burials: > > 13 October 1814 Edith EAST, aged 34 > 10 December 1818 Editha EAST, aged 74 > 20 February 1819 John EAST, aged 73 > 19 January 1827 Sarah EAST, aged 19 (looks like the Sarah bap at > Guilden Morden) > 29 January 1828 John EAST, aged 45 > > The only James EAST on the Cambridgeshire Baptismal Index baptised between > 1807 & 1813 is one in Gamlingay in 1811 and according to the IGI his > parents > are Humphrey & Ann so that probably knocks him out. Looking at the > marriages of John & Elizabeth's children at Steeple Morden, Edith EAST > married Thomas HORSLEY on 27 March 1828, the witnesses being John NEWELL & > Mary Ann EAST - could this be a sibling of Ediths and if so where was she > born/baptised. Ah, this looks like a second marriage for Elizabeth nee > TITMOUSE - 10 November 1829 John SOAL, bachelor, otp married Elizabeth > EAST, > widow, otp. Witnesses William DAY & Ann DELLER. And a further EAST > marriage on 31 December 1829 of John NEWELL, bachelor, otp & Mary Ann > EAST, > spinster, otp. Witnesses Eliza EAST & William DAY all of which points to > Mary Ann perhaps being another daughter of John & Elizabeth. > > This looks like Elizabeth SOLE in the 1841 census of Steeple Morden: > > HO107/63/22, folio 6, page 6 > > Wm EAST 20 Labourer > Elizabeth SOLE 60 Nurse > Elizabeth EAST 15 > > So there appear to be two unaccounted for EASTs that appear to be > connected > in some way to John & Elizabeth EAST - the William above who states in the > 1851 census of Steeple Morden that he was born there c1821 but there is no > baptism for him in the transcript and Mary Ann EAST who married John > NEWELL > in 1829. William EAST is definitely the son of John & Elizabeth - his > marriage at Steeple Morden on 6 April 1845 to Eliza LEE states that to be > the case. Unfortunately, Mary Ann NEWELL is buried at Steeple Morden on 2 > September 1832, aged 22 which puts her birth as c1810 but still gives us > no > further idea of where she was born/baptised. > > John SOAL was buried on 31 October 1835, aged 46 and a burial for > Elizabeth > SOAL on 6 February 1859, aged 83 which fits in pretty well with the > baptismal date of Elizabeth TITMOUSE. > > The other county to consider when looking for the birth/baptisms of the > missing EASTs is Bedfordshire. Hertfordshire baptisms on the IGI are > pretty > complete. Mary Ann EAST's baptism does not appear on the Cambs Baptismal > Index nor is there one for William EAST. I'm not sure this will have > helped > you much at all, but will probably give you a little more background info. > Have you found any immigration records for your James and have you found > any > marriage records?? Mind you, I don't know if Tasmanian records at that > time > give any more information than our English ones. Any clues with the names > of his children - Edith seems a popular one with the children of John & > Elizabeth over here?? > > Sorry not to be of more help. > > Janet > > > > > > > >> I'm new to the list and I'm an East researcher from Australia. I have >> been >> trying for several years to find some info on my 3xgreat grandfather >> James >> East born circa 1809 in the UK. He arrived in Tasmania as a free settler >> about 1827, as far as I know he was on his own, no other family members >> with him. I have not been able to find a birth for my James. >> >> I tried a different approach a few days ago, he had named his first >> daughter Ann Titmouse East, which I had always thought was a strange name >> to give a child. So I searched Titmouse marriages and found an Elizabeth >> Titmouse had married a John East (b circa 1775) on 20 May 1802 in GUILDEN >> MORDEN, CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLAND. So I am thinking that this could very >> well be a connection to my James East. Does anyone out there have any >> connection or info about this family? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:38:33 -0000 > From: "Peter Jarman" <p.jarman@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [HRT] East Family Research > To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000901ca8894$9b4afa40$d1e0eec0$@jarman@ntlworld.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Kath > > I looked through the excellent Cambs FHS disc for the Mordens, but no > James > East, just the others previously mentioned. > > I even looked at the Wesleyan baptisms for Biggleswade as I remembered > some > of my Jarman clan were baptised there, but nothing. > > The witnesses at the wedding don't help as they were standard church > warden > types who witnessed many marraiges, John East and Elizabeth Titmouse > marked > the register with a cross (x) > > I had a similar problem the other day, someone didn't get baptised. > > Peter Jarman > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kat53 > Sent: 29 December 2009 10:17 > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] East Family Research > > Hi All > > I'm new to the list and I'm an East researcher from Australia. I have been > trying for several years to find some info on my 3xgreat grandfather James > East born circa 1809 in the UK. He arrived in Tasmania as a free settler > about 1827, as far as I know he was on his own, no other family members > with > him. I have not been able to find a birth for my James. > > I tried a different approach a few days ago, he had named his first > daughter > Ann Titmouse East, which I had always thought was a strange name to give a > child. So I searched Titmouse marriages and found an Elizabeth Titmouse > had > married a John East (b circa 1775) on 20 May 1802 in GUILDEN MORDEN, > CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLAND. So I am thinking that this could very well be a > connection to my James East. Does anyone out there have any connection or > info about this family? > > A kind lady suggested he information below; > The records for each place run from the 1500's through to the mid 1800's, > but between 1807 and 1813 the children of John and Elizabeth East could > have > been born at villages whose records aren't on the IGI - perhaps over the > border into Hertfordshire. > > Regards > Kath > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.122/2590 - Release Date: > 12/28/09 > 07:16:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:59:10 -0000 > From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> > Subject: [HRT] East Family Research > To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <164C1A442B5547F9AA48043D14EAD117@max> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi, the Tasmanian archives also show that he names two children > Springford , Richard in 1841 and Springford in 1843 , which of course may > mean he is naming them after someone in Tasmania , and perhaps Thomas S is > also Springford . > There is a James East who arrives on the Aguilar in 1824 but the > next James to arrive is in 1839 . > There are two sightings of James East in the Census of Tasmania for > Launceston for 1842 and 1848 which might prove interesting as might the > wills of James East which are now downloadable ....... > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kat53" <karaf.13@bigpond.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM > Subject: [HRT] East Family Research > > >> Hi All >> >> I'm new to the list and I'm an East researcher from Australia. I have >> been >> trying for several years to find some info on my 3xgreat grandfather >> James >> East born circa 1809 in the UK. He arrived in Tasmania as a free settler >> about 1827, as far as I know he was on his own, no other family members >> with him. I have not been able to find a birth for my James. >> >> I tried a different approach a few days ago, he had named his first >> daughter Ann Titmouse East, which I had always thought was a strange name >> to give a child. So I searched Titmouse marriages and found an Elizabeth >> Titmouse had married a John East (b circa 1775) on 20 May 1802 in GUILDEN >> MORDEN, CAMBRIDGESHIRE, ENGLAND. So I am thinking that this could very >> well be a connection to my James East. Does anyone out there have any >> connection or info about this family? >> >> A kind lady suggested he information below; >> The records for each place run from the 1500's through to the mid 1800's, >> but between 1807 and 1813 the children of John and Elizabeth East could >> have been born at villages whose records aren't on the IGI - perhaps over >> the border into Hertfordshire. >> >> Regards >> Kath >> >> >> Hertfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE mailing list, send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 246 > *************************************************