I've recently discovered a cousin, once removed, and would like to know more about him and, if he had one, his family. He was born in Sunderland, Co. Durham, but lived in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. I found his death registration which give me the first name of his wife, and I've found a marriage which could be his. I'd like to get a copy of the marriage registration, but the Watford registrar's office requires full information (which I don't have) about the marriage before they will produce it, and I'd prefer not to buy it from the GRO as I'd like to see original signatures. If all else fails, though, I will get it from the GRO. If anyone can offer me help or advice to find the marriage information in some other way, and/or to locate my cousin's children, if he had any, or his wife or wives, I'd be very grateful. Here's what I know: James Ormston Bell b. 8 February 1907, Sunderland, Co. Durham Father: James Ormston Bell Mother: Harriett Adams d. 26 October 1984, in the Shrodells Wing of the General Hospital in Watford Death registered at Watford Registrar's office Address at time of death: 56A Talbot Rd., Rickmansworth Occupation on death certificate: pump house attendant Wife at time of death: Geraldine Possible marriage: James O. Bell and Geraldine Beasley Registered by Watford Registrar in 1974 If the above is the marriage of my cousin, it's possible that it would not have been his first marriage. Also, I found a birth for a Geraldine Beasley in 1940, so, if she is the same lady, she is/was, considerably younger than my cousin. On the premise that I had found the correct wife, I located a likely lady on Talbot Rd. (different house number) via Findmypast.com., and have written to her. Alas, I've received no response so perhaps she is no longer there. Hoping for a big flash of light. Vivienne Toronto, Canada

Vivienne, These are the details given on the GRO Index via Ancestry for the marriage you found below: James O BELL & Geraldine BEASLEY married December qtr 1974 at Watford reg district, volume 10, page 0946. Ancestry have incorrectly transcribed Geraldine's page number as 0966 but I have looked at the original and it is definitely 0946 so the names do match. There is also another marriage for a James O BELL in the September qtr 1928 at Ware reg district, vol 3a, page 2205, his spouses name being shown as Edith C REED. Could this be your James's first marriage? There is a child's birth registered in the March qtr 1931 at Ware reg district, vol 3a, page 1202 (Joan O BELL), mother's maiden name REED followed by the birth registration of a Joyce BELL in Sep qtr 1934, Jean I BELL in Sep 1937, both at Ware reg district and both with mother's maiden name of REED. HTH Janet > > Possible marriage: > James O. Bell and Geraldine Beasley > Registered by Watford Registrar in 1974 > > If the above is the marriage of my cousin, it's possible that it would not > have been his first marriage. Also, I found a birth for a Geraldine > Beasley in 1940, so, if she is the same lady, she is/was, considerably > younger than my cousin.

Vivienne    If you order a copy from Watford it will be a hand written copy by the Watford registrar so will not have the original signature.   Mike --- On Sun, 10/1/10, Vivienne Simmons <vivienne.simmons@sympatico.ca> wrote: From: Vivienne Simmons <vivienne.simmons@sympatico.ca> Subject: [HRT] Bell and Beasley To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 21:05 I've recently discovered a cousin, once removed, and would like to know more about him and, if he had one, his family.  He was born in Sunderland, Co. Durham, but lived in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. I found his death registration which give me the first name of his wife, and I've found a marriage which could be his.  I'd like to get a copy of the marriage registration, but the Watford registrar's office requires full information (which I don't have) about the marriage before they will produce it, and I'd prefer not to buy it from the GRO as I'd like to see original signatures.  If all else fails, though, I will get it from the GRO. If anyone can offer me help or advice to find the marriage information in some other way, and/or to locate my cousin's children, if he had any, or his wife or wives, I'd be very grateful.  Here's what I know: James Ormston Bell b. 8 February 1907, Sunderland, Co. Durham Father: James Ormston Bell Mother: Harriett Adams d. 26 October 1984, in the Shrodells Wing of the General Hospital in Watford Death registered at Watford Registrar's office Address at time of death: 56A Talbot Rd., Rickmansworth Occupation on death certificate: pump house attendant Wife at time of death: Geraldine Possible marriage: James O. Bell and Geraldine Beasley Registered by Watford Registrar in 1974 If the above is the marriage of my cousin, it's possible that it would not have been his first marriage.  Also, I found a birth for a Geraldine Beasley in 1940, so, if she is the same lady, she is/was, considerably younger than my cousin. On the premise that I had found the correct wife, I located a likely lady on Talbot Rd. (different house number) via Findmypast.com., and have written to her.  Alas, I've received no response so perhaps she is no longer there. Hoping for a big flash of light. Vivienne Toronto, Canada Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I look on 192.com and came up with this address. Phone number: 01923 233 278 4 Hazeltree Road, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD24 6RQ > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:43:26 +0000 > From: mikevi@talk21.com > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HRT] Bell and Beasley > > Vivienne If you order a copy from Watford it will be a hand written copy by the Watford registrar so will not have the original signature. > > Mike > > --- On Sun, 10/1/10, Vivienne Simmons <vivienne.simmons@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > From: Vivienne Simmons <vivienne.simmons@sympatico.ca> > Subject: [HRT] Bell and Beasley > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 21:05 > > > I've recently discovered a cousin, once removed, and would like to know more about him and, if he had one, his family. He was born in Sunderland, Co. Durham, but lived in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. > > I found his death registration which give me the first name of his wife, and I've found a marriage which could be his. I'd like to get a copy of the marriage registration, but the Watford registrar's office requires full information (which I don't have) about the marriage before they will produce it, and I'd prefer not to buy it from the GRO as I'd like to see original signatures. If all else fails, though, I will get it from the GRO. > > If anyone can offer me help or advice to find the marriage information in some other way, and/or to locate my cousin's children, if he had any, or his wife or wives, I'd be very grateful. Here's what I know: > > James Ormston Bell > b. 8 February 1907, Sunderland, Co. Durham > Father: James Ormston Bell > Mother: Harriett Adams > d. 26 October 1984, in the Shrodells Wing of the General Hospital in Watford > Death registered at Watford Registrar's office > Address at time of death: 56A Talbot Rd., Rickmansworth > Occupation on death certificate: pump house attendant > Wife at time of death: Geraldine > > Possible marriage: > James O. Bell and Geraldine Beasley > Registered by Watford Registrar in 1974 > > If the above is the marriage of my cousin, it's possible that it would not have been his first marriage. Also, I found a birth for a Geraldine Beasley in 1940, so, if she is the same lady, she is/was, considerably younger than my cousin. > > On the premise that I had found the correct wife, I located a likely lady on Talbot Rd. (different house number) via Findmypast.com., and have written to her. Alas, I've received no response so perhaps she is no longer there. > > Hoping for a big flash of light. > > Vivienne > Toronto, Canada > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Free Results for James Bell or J Bell in Hertfordshire 1 J Bell Phone number: 01442 823 244 Merryweathers, Dancers End, Tring, Hertfordshire, HP23 6JY Grid reference: 490400,210200, Visual ID: 1 2 J Bell Phone number: 01442 823 174 52 Lakeside, Tring, Hertfordshire, HP23 5HN Grid reference: 492200,212400, Visual ID: 2 3 J Bell Phone number: 01442 842 262 38 Dunstable Road, Dagnall, Berkhamsted, Hertfordshire, HP4 1RG Grid reference: 499200,216400, Visual ID: 3 4 J Bell Phone number: 01442 870 996 47 Gossoms End, Berkhamsted, Hertfordshire, HP4 1DF Grid reference: 498300,208200, Visual ID: 4 5 J Bell Phone number: 01992 503 185 27 Windsor Drive, Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG14 2HU Grid reference: 530900,213300, Visual ID: 5 6 J Bell Phone number: 01992 558 664 20 Becketts, Hertford, Hertfordshire, SG14 2AN Grid reference: 531400,212200, Visual ID: 6 7 J Bell Phone number: 01763 282 613 72 Spring Lane, Bassingbourn, Royston, Hertfordshire, SG8 5HT Grid reference: 533500,243600, Visual ID: 7 8 J Bell Phone number: 01438 364 425 Unwin Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG2 9SZ Grid reference: 526000,223400, Visual ID: 8 9 J Bell Phone number: 01438 368 564 Magpie Crescent, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG2 9RZ Grid reference: 526700,223300, Visual ID: 9 10 J Bell Phone number: 01279 812 626 Gaunts End, Elsenham, Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire, CM22 6DR Grid reference: 555100,225400, Visual ID: 10 11 J Bell Phone number: 01438 359 289 9 Shire Court, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 3BB Grid reference: 523300,225400, Visual ID: 11 12 J Bell Phone number: 01727 837 593 Flat2 Clement Court, Bakers Close, St Albans, Hertfordshire, AL1 5FH Grid reference: 516300,206900, Visual ID: 12 13 J Bell Phone number: 01923 286 368 10B Solesbridge Close, Chorleywood, Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, WD3 5SP Grid reference: 503800,196600, Visual ID: 13 14 J Bell Phone number: 020 8950 3863 28 Wren Crescent, Bushey, Hertfordshire, WD23 1AN Grid reference: 514100,194300, Visual ID: 14 15 J Bell Phone number: 01923 212 918 149 Rickmansworth Road, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD18 7FH Grid reference: 509400,196100, Visual ID: 15 16 J Bell Phone number: 01923 681 036 43 Dowding Way, Leavesden, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD25 7GA Grid reference: 509700,200100, Visual ID: 16 17 J Bell Phone number: 01923 678 771 12 Holtsmere Close, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD25 9NG Grid reference: 511300,199600, Visual ID: 17 18 J Bell > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:43:26 +0000 > From: mikevi@talk21.com > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HRT] Bell and Beasley > > Vivienne If you order a copy from Watford it will be a hand written copy by the Watford registrar so will not have the original signature. > > Mike > > --- On Sun, 10/1/10, Vivienne Simmons <vivienne.simmons@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > From: Vivienne Simmons <vivienne.simmons@sympatico.ca> > Subject: [HRT] Bell and Beasley > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 21:05 > > > I've recently discovered a cousin, once removed, and would like to know more about him and, if he had one, his family. He was born in Sunderland, Co. Durham, but lived in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. > > I found his death registration which give me the first name of his wife, and I've found a marriage which could be his. I'd like to get a copy of the marriage registration, but the Watford registrar's office requires full information (which I don't have) about the marriage before they will produce it, and I'd prefer not to buy it from the GRO as I'd like to see original signatures. If all else fails, though, I will get it from the GRO. > > If anyone can offer me help or advice to find the marriage information in some other way, and/or to locate my cousin's children, if he had any, or his wife or wives, I'd be very grateful. Here's what I know: > > James Ormston Bell > b. 8 February 1907, Sunderland, Co. Durham > Father: James Ormston Bell > Mother: Harriett Adams > d. 26 October 1984, in the Shrodells Wing of the General Hospital in Watford > Death registered at Watford Registrar's office > Address at time of death: 56A Talbot Rd., Rickmansworth > Occupation on death certificate: pump house attendant > Wife at time of death: Geraldine > > Possible marriage: > James O. Bell and Geraldine Beasley > Registered by Watford Registrar in 1974 > > If the above is the marriage of my cousin, it's possible that it would not have been his first marriage. Also, I found a birth for a Geraldine Beasley in 1940, so, if she is the same lady, she is/was, considerably younger than my cousin. > > On the premise that I had found the correct wife, I located a likely lady on Talbot Rd. (different house number) via Findmypast.com., and have written to her. Alas, I've received no response so perhaps she is no longer there. > > Hoping for a big flash of light. > > Vivienne > Toronto, Canada > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Did you ascertain what the full information needed was? Normally for a marriage, I understand the additional information the registrar needs is the venue of the marriage in order to find their copy of the registration. If this is all it is, that is a slightly different problem. It is only the GRO by compiling their index that brings all this information together for marriages in any registration district. Additionally, if it was at a church, then that gives you another avenue to explore, either at the church itself or the county record office if it has been deposited. And indeed it is this version that will have the original signatures. regards Keith -----Original Message----- From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Vivienne Simmons Sent: 10 January 2010 21:06 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Bell and Beasley I've recently discovered a cousin, once removed, and would like to know more about him and, if he had one, his family. He was born in Sunderland, Co. Durham, but lived in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. I found his death registration which give me the first name of his wife, and I've found a marriage which could be his. I'd like to get a copy of the marriage registration, but the Watford registrar's office requires full information (which I don't have) about the marriage before they will produce it, and I'd prefer not to buy it from the GRO as I'd like to see original signatures. If all else fails, though, I will get it from the GRO. If anyone can offer me help or advice to find the marriage information in some other way, and/or to locate my cousin's children, if he had any, or his wife or wives, I'd be very grateful. Here's what I know: James Ormston Bell b. 8 February 1907, Sunderland, Co. Durham Father: James Ormston Bell Mother: Harriett Adams d. 26 October 1984, in the Shrodells Wing of the General Hospital in Watford Death registered at Watford Registrar's office Address at time of death: 56A Talbot Rd., Rickmansworth Occupation on death certificate: pump house attendant Wife at time of death: Geraldine Possible marriage: James O. Bell and Geraldine Beasley Registered by Watford Registrar in 1974 If the above is the marriage of my cousin, it's possible that it would not have been his first marriage. Also, I found a birth for a Geraldine Beasley in 1940, so, if she is the same lady, she is/was, considerably younger than my cousin. On the premise that I had found the correct wife, I located a likely lady on Talbot Rd. (different house number) via Findmypast.com., and have written to her. Alas, I've received no response so perhaps she is no longer there. Hoping for a big flash of light. Vivienne Toronto, Canada Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vivienne To get a copy of the marriage cert with the original signatures your best bet would HALs who would get you an image of the original Derick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivienne Simmons" <vivienne.simmons@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 9:05 PM Subject: [HRT] Bell and Beasley > I've recently discovered a cousin, once removed, and would like to know > more about him and, if he had one, his family. He was born in Sunderland, > Co. Durham, but lived in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. > > I found his death registration which give me the first name of his wife, > and I've found a marriage which could be his. I'd like to get a copy of > the marriage registration, but the Watford registrar's office requires > full information (which I don't have) about the marriage before they will > produce it, and I'd prefer not to buy it from the GRO as I'd like to see > original signatures. If all else fails, though, I will get it from the > GRO. > > If anyone can offer me help or advice to find the marriage information in > some other way, and/or to locate my cousin's children, if he had any, or > his wife or wives, I'd be very grateful. Here's what I know: > > James Ormston Bell > b. 8 February 1907, Sunderland, Co. Durham > Father: James Ormston Bell > Mother: Harriett Adams > d. 26 October 1984, in the Shrodells Wing of the General Hospital in > Watford > Death registered at Watford Registrar's office > Address at time of death: 56A Talbot Rd., Rickmansworth > Occupation on death certificate: pump house attendant > Wife at time of death: Geraldine > > Possible marriage: > James O. Bell and Geraldine Beasley > Registered by Watford Registrar in 1974 > > If the above is the marriage of my cousin, it's possible that it would not > have been his first marriage. Also, I found a birth for a Geraldine > Beasley in 1940, so, if she is the same lady, she is/was, considerably > younger than my cousin. > > On the premise that I had found the correct wife, I located a likely lady > on Talbot Rd. (different house number) via Findmypast.com., and have > written to her. Alas, I've received no response so perhaps she is no > longer there. > > Hoping for a big flash of light. > > Vivienne > Toronto, Canada > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you all very much for your help with my quest. As a start, I've ordered the Bell/Beasley marriage certificate from the GRO, and will contact the G. Bell found in Watford. If things don't fall into place with these two actions, I'll make enquiries about the other James O. Bell marriages found in Hertfordshire. A year ago, finding anything at all about this leg of my family seemed impossible, then James turned up, so I'm very hopeful that this won't be a dead end. Thank you all again. Your help and advice is much appreciated, and I'm glad to know of HALS which I will investigate as suggested. Gratefully, Vivienne Toronto, Canada