Hi, the Griffiths have ballooned from a simple query into a most interesting discussion , and now there seem to be three possible Margaret , 2nd wife , of Col Edwin , possibly Margaret Johnson m 1844 ?Shropshire , possibly Margaret Macormister, and then Margaret Mackenzie and then Margaret Brooks .........I also looking in the NSW bapts and couldn`t find a child of the post 1843 marriage to Margaret Brooks , but only looked at NSW , didn`t think to look at Tasmania .... So apart from the new found George b Australia 1844, is there any further sighting of the earlier Edwina Eliza Ann b Cheshunt , 1819 ? or the two little boys Edwin Arthur and Frederick ? and yes why the big gap between 1821 and 1832 or were Edwin and Frederick born between those two dates but only christened in 1832 when Col Edwin was on leave ? Is anyone able to check the burial register of Cheshunt between 1819 and 1833 ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Morris" <susan.fh@cosmic-colour.co.uk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths > Thanks Anthony. > > I was following the same line of thought last night, but in England. I > found the death of an Elizabeth Griffiths, registered in Ware (the > registration district for Cheshunt) in 1844, followed by a marriage for > an Edwin Griffiths in 1848, with a Margaret Johnson on the same page, > but it was in Shropshire. > > However, I'm inclined to think that your finding makes more sense, > especially with no sign of any of the family on the UK censuses. I > reckon the two sons of Edwin and Eliza Ann stayed in Australia or > wherever Edwin next went on his army service and never came back to the > UK, or not until they were very much older. > > Susan > > > > > > > > On 10/09/2010 10:55, Anthony M. Carter wrote: >> As I recall we started with the well documented Edwin Griffiths-Eliza Ann >> Lucas marriage in 1816, but his widow was called Margaret. IGI has the >> marriage of Edwin Griffiths to Margaret Brooks on 3 May 1843 at St John, >> Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia. This was then HQ for the 96th >> Foot. Therefore it seems likely that the first wife had died. Anthony >> > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Somebody else is looking at Georgina Marianne and has annotated the 1871 transcript on Ancestry with her maiden name Griffiths. She is Georgina Roberts a clergyman's wife in 1871, 1881, 1891 and a widow with private means in 1911; did not persevere with 1901. Birthplace variously given but either/or Hobartstown and Tasmania. Of couse this still might not be the right Edwin. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard [elizgh@btinternet.com] Sent: 11 September 2010 12:24 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths Hi, the Griffiths have ballooned from a simple query into a most interesting discussion , and now there seem to be three possible Margaret , 2nd wife , of Col Edwin , possibly Margaret Johnson m 1844 ?Shropshire , possibly Margaret Macormister, and then Margaret Mackenzie and then Margaret Brooks .........I also looking in the NSW bapts and couldn`t find a child of the post 1843 marriage to Margaret Brooks , but only looked at NSW , didn`t think to look at Tasmania .... So apart from the new found George b Australia 1844, is there any further sighting of the earlier Edwina Eliza Ann b Cheshunt , 1819 ? or the two little boys Edwin Arthur and Frederick ? and yes why the big gap between 1821 and 1832 or were Edwin and Frederick born between those two dates but only christened in 1832 when Col Edwin was on leave ? Is anyone able to check the burial register of Cheshunt between 1819 and 1833 ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Morris" <susan.fh@cosmic-colour.co.uk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths > Thanks Anthony. > > I was following the same line of thought last night, but in England. I > found the death of an Elizabeth Griffiths, registered in Ware (the > registration district for Cheshunt) in 1844, followed by a marriage for > an Edwin Griffiths in 1848, with a Margaret Johnson on the same page, > but it was in Shropshire. > > However, I'm inclined to think that your finding makes more sense, > especially with no sign of any of the family on the UK censuses. I > reckon the two sons of Edwin and Eliza Ann stayed in Australia or > wherever Edwin next went on his army service and never came back to the > UK, or not until they were very much older. > > Susan > > > > > > > > On 10/09/2010 10:55, Anthony M. Carter wrote: >> As I recall we started with the well documented Edwin Griffiths-Eliza Ann >> Lucas marriage in 1816, but his widow was called Margaret. IGI has the >> marriage of Edwin Griffiths to Margaret Brooks on 3 May 1843 at St John, >> Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia. This was then HQ for the 96th >> Foot. Therefore it seems likely that the first wife had died. Anthony >> > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think we are on the right track. The 1863 marriage of Georgina Griffiths and John Llewelyn Roberts is on FreeBMD. Then I used the FamilySearch Record Search Pilot and got a date 21 July 1863 and a place St John Chatham Kent. Now Harts Army List of about this date (a whole slew of them just posted on TheGenealogist) shows Edwin was still Paymaster of the 96th (after about 50 years of service!!) and guess what? they were quartered at Chatham. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard [elizgh@btinternet.com] Sent: 11 September 2010 12:24 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths Hi, the Griffiths have ballooned from a simple query into a most interesting discussion , and now there seem to be three possible Margaret , 2nd wife , of Col Edwin , possibly Margaret Johnson m 1844 ?Shropshire , possibly Margaret Macormister, and then Margaret Mackenzie and then Margaret Brooks .........I also looking in the NSW bapts and couldn`t find a child of the post 1843 marriage to Margaret Brooks , but only looked at NSW , didn`t think to look at Tasmania .... So apart from the new found George b Australia 1844, is there any further sighting of the earlier Edwina Eliza Ann b Cheshunt , 1819 ? or the two little boys Edwin Arthur and Frederick ? and yes why the big gap between 1821 and 1832 or were Edwin and Frederick born between those two dates but only christened in 1832 when Col Edwin was on leave ? Is anyone able to check the burial register of Cheshunt between 1819 and 1833 ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Morris" <susan.fh@cosmic-colour.co.uk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths > Thanks Anthony. > > I was following the same line of thought last night, but in England. I > found the death of an Elizabeth Griffiths, registered in Ware (the > registration district for Cheshunt) in 1844, followed by a marriage for > an Edwin Griffiths in 1848, with a Margaret Johnson on the same page, > but it was in Shropshire. > > However, I'm inclined to think that your finding makes more sense, > especially with no sign of any of the family on the UK censuses. I > reckon the two sons of Edwin and Eliza Ann stayed in Australia or > wherever Edwin next went on his army service and never came back to the > UK, or not until they were very much older. > > Susan > > > > > > > > On 10/09/2010 10:55, Anthony M. Carter wrote: >> As I recall we started with the well documented Edwin Griffiths-Eliza Ann >> Lucas marriage in 1816, but his widow was called Margaret. IGI has the >> marriage of Edwin Griffiths to Margaret Brooks on 3 May 1843 at St John, >> Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia. This was then HQ for the 96th >> Foot. Therefore it seems likely that the first wife had died. Anthony >> > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message