Thank you both Elizabeth and Gay. I'm so grateful to you both. I'm in Cambridge, so I can go and check out the baptismal records for Pampisford, and Hertford is about 50 miles away, so I can do the same there. With the price of petrol, I'd hesitated to make a 100 miles journey without more proof that Emily was born in Cheshunt. I had begun to think the elusive Colonel Griffiths was a myth. I had found a 96th Foot Regiment which listed two Griffiths, both with the initials E but no details of rank. I went away from the computer thoroughly depressed because since I wrote my appeal for help to the list, I'd received the marriage certificate from Tasmania and, unlike UK ones, it gave no details of the fathers of the bride and groom. It showed the groom to be a Capt in 96th Foot (which I knew) and Emily Griffiths to be a free spinister, something we don't see on the UK certificates. But then, Tasmania was a penal colony and it was on a page with three other marriages, all of which showed the women to be prisoners marrying free men. Apart from the fact that she was a free woman, there was nothing to show that Emily was the daughter of one of the officers. I came back to the computer to find your detailed responses. Wow, what a lot to work my way through! I had searched the IGI but, as I wrote on the Wiltshire list recently in response to someone who had searched for info without results and was surprised that someone else had found what she was looking for, I'm convinced that when we search on the IGI, we only see some of that huge database and it is always worth looking again. I've used the google books Officers of the Army lists before, with good results, but nothing came up on my search for Griffiths (with no first name) and 96th Foot. Again, many thanks. Susan

Hi, glad you are pleased........you can also go on the London Gazette and just put in Edwin Griffiths , and you will be able to chase him right through his career from his start in 1813 ........and googling 48th and 96th regts shows that both regts were for a time in Australia , can`t now remember which , think it was the 48th was in Australasia from 1817 - 1824...........and you could get the Colonel`s will from the York Probate office as you know his date of death , I think they still charge £5 , google York probate office for all post 1858 wills . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Morris" <susan.fh@cosmic-colour.co.uk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths > Thank you both Elizabeth and Gay. I'm so grateful to you both. > > I'm in Cambridge, so I can go and check out the baptismal records for > Pampisford, and Hertford is about 50 miles away, so I can do the same > there. With the price of petrol, I'd hesitated to make a 100 miles > journey without more proof that Emily was born in Cheshunt. > > I had begun to think the elusive Colonel Griffiths was a myth. I had > found a 96th Foot Regiment which listed two Griffiths, both with the > initials E but no details of rank. > > I went away from the computer thoroughly depressed because since I wrote > my appeal for help to the list, I'd received the marriage certificate > from Tasmania and, unlike UK ones, it gave no details of the fathers of > the bride and groom. It showed the groom to be a Capt in 96th Foot > (which I knew) and Emily Griffiths to be a free spinister, something we > don't see on the UK certificates. But then, Tasmania was a penal colony > and it was on a page with three other marriages, all of which showed the > women to be prisoners marrying free men. Apart from the fact that she > was a free woman, there was nothing to show that Emily was the daughter > of one of the officers. > > I came back to the computer to find your detailed responses. Wow, what a > lot to work my way through! > > I had searched the IGI but, as I wrote on the Wiltshire list recently in > response to someone who had searched for info without results and was > surprised that someone else had found what she was looking for, I'm > convinced that when we search on the IGI, we only see some of that huge > database and it is always worth looking again. > > I've used the google books Officers of the Army lists before, with good > results, but nothing came up on my search for Griffiths (with no first > name) and 96th Foot. > > Again, many thanks. > > Susan > > > > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The brother of one of my family served in a far humbler capacity in the 96th Foot. Here is a resume of what I learned: The 96th Foot was responsible for providing detachments to transport convicts to New South Wales and Van Diemen’s Land (Tasmania). From 1839-49 they served as prison guards. The regimental HQ was at Windsor and Parramatta NSW then from 1843 at Launceston VDL. In 1849 they arrived in Calcutta and were in India until 1854, returning home to the UK before deploying to Gibraltar for garrison service for rather less than a year in 1856-7. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard [elizgh@btinternet.com] Sent: 09 September 2010 18:29 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths Hi, glad you are pleased........you can also go on the London Gazette and just put in Edwin Griffiths , and you will be able to chase him right through his career from his start in 1813 ........and googling 48th and 96th regts shows that both regts were for a time in Australia , can`t now remember which , think it was the 48th was in Australasia from 1817 - 1824...........and you could get the Colonel`s will from the York Probate office as you know his date of death , I think they still charge £5 , google York probate office for all post 1858 wills . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Morris" <susan.fh@cosmic-colour.co.uk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths > Thank you both Elizabeth and Gay. I'm so grateful to you both. > > I'm in Cambridge, so I can go and check out the baptismal records for > Pampisford, and Hertford is about 50 miles away, so I can do the same > there. With the price of petrol, I'd hesitated to make a 100 miles > journey without more proof that Emily was born in Cheshunt. > > I had begun to think the elusive Colonel Griffiths was a myth. I had > found a 96th Foot Regiment which listed two Griffiths, both with the > initials E but no details of rank. > > I went away from the computer thoroughly depressed because since I wrote > my appeal for help to the list, I'd received the marriage certificate > from Tasmania and, unlike UK ones, it gave no details of the fathers of > the bride and groom. It showed the groom to be a Capt in 96th Foot > (which I knew) and Emily Griffiths to be a free spinister, something we > don't see on the UK certificates. But then, Tasmania was a penal colony > and it was on a page with three other marriages, all of which showed the > women to be prisoners marrying free men. Apart from the fact that she > was a free woman, there was nothing to show that Emily was the daughter > of one of the officers. > > I came back to the computer to find your detailed responses. Wow, what a > lot to work my way through! > > I had searched the IGI but, as I wrote on the Wiltshire list recently in > response to someone who had searched for info without results and was > surprised that someone else had found what she was looking for, I'm > convinced that when we search on the IGI, we only see some of that huge > database and it is always worth looking again. > > I've used the google books Officers of the Army lists before, with good > results, but nothing came up on my search for Griffiths (with no first > name) and 96th Foot. > > Again, many thanks. > > Susan > > > > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you have a subscription to Ancestry you will find Lieutenant Colonel Edwin Griffiths. He left Not above £4000, a tidy sum in 1867. His widow was Margaret Griffiths so if we have the right body he must have remarried. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Morris [susan.fh@cosmic-colour.co.uk] Sent: 09 September 2010 18:08 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths Thank you both Elizabeth and Gay. I'm so grateful to you both. I'm in Cambridge, so I can go and check out the baptismal records for Pampisford, and Hertford is about 50 miles away, so I can do the same there. With the price of petrol, I'd hesitated to make a 100 miles journey without more proof that Emily was born in Cheshunt. I had begun to think the elusive Colonel Griffiths was a myth. I had found a 96th Foot Regiment which listed two Griffiths, both with the initials E but no details of rank. I went away from the computer thoroughly depressed because since I wrote my appeal for help to the list, I'd received the marriage certificate from Tasmania and, unlike UK ones, it gave no details of the fathers of the bride and groom. It showed the groom to be a Capt in 96th Foot (which I knew) and Emily Griffiths to be a free spinister, something we don't see on the UK certificates. But then, Tasmania was a penal colony and it was on a page with three other marriages, all of which showed the women to be prisoners marrying free men. Apart from the fact that she was a free woman, there was nothing to show that Emily was the daughter of one of the officers. I came back to the computer to find your detailed responses. Wow, what a lot to work my way through! I had searched the IGI but, as I wrote on the Wiltshire list recently in response to someone who had searched for info without results and was surprised that someone else had found what she was looking for, I'm convinced that when we search on the IGI, we only see some of that huge database and it is always worth looking again. I've used the google books Officers of the Army lists before, with good results, but nothing came up on my search for Griffiths (with no first name) and 96th Foot. Again, many thanks. Susan Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Anthony. Yes, I have an Ancestry subscription. I've got a lot to work through now, to establish that we have got the right body. The website about the 96th Foot, http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/96thfoot.htm does list two Griffiths, both with the initial E, but without rank, so it looks promising. Susan - feeling a lot more positive than I did last night about the Griffiths connection On 09/09/2010 18:46, Anthony M. Carter wrote: > If you have a subscription to Ancestry you will find Lieutenant Colonel Edwin Griffiths. He left Not above £4000, a tidy sum in 1867. His widow was Margaret Griffiths so if we have the right body he must have remarried. Anthony > >

Sorry, I left out the key words: National Probate Register. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Morris [susan.fh@cosmic-colour.co.uk] Sent: 09 September 2010 18:08 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] Baptismal look up please, Griffiths Thank you both Elizabeth and Gay. I'm so grateful to you both. I'm in Cambridge, so I can go and check out the baptismal records for Pampisford, and Hertford is about 50 miles away, so I can do the same there. With the price of petrol, I'd hesitated to make a 100 miles journey without more proof that Emily was born in Cheshunt. I had begun to think the elusive Colonel Griffiths was a myth. I had found a 96th Foot Regiment which listed two Griffiths, both with the initials E but no details of rank. I went away from the computer thoroughly depressed because since I wrote my appeal for help to the list, I'd received the marriage certificate from Tasmania and, unlike UK ones, it gave no details of the fathers of the bride and groom. It showed the groom to be a Capt in 96th Foot (which I knew) and Emily Griffiths to be a free spinister, something we don't see on the UK certificates. But then, Tasmania was a penal colony and it was on a page with three other marriages, all of which showed the women to be prisoners marrying free men. Apart from the fact that she was a free woman, there was nothing to show that Emily was the daughter of one of the officers. I came back to the computer to find your detailed responses. Wow, what a lot to work my way through! I had searched the IGI but, as I wrote on the Wiltshire list recently in response to someone who had searched for info without results and was surprised that someone else had found what she was looking for, I'm convinced that when we search on the IGI, we only see some of that huge database and it is always worth looking again. I've used the google books Officers of the Army lists before, with good results, but nothing came up on my search for Griffiths (with no first name) and 96th Foot. Again, many thanks. Susan Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message