Hi Tony, - You will note that the entries in the IGI - are Submitted by a Member of LDS church - Items submitted -May Not be Absolutely Accurate. Do you know when your Collin POTTERILL - passed away -? there is an entry for a death in 1919. Marriage - 25. <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=700096802761&lds=1®ion=2®ionfriendly=British+Isles&juris1=Engl&juris2=Hert&juris3=&juris4=®ionfriendly=&juris1friendly=England&juris2friendly=Hertford&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=>Collin Potterill - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 25 DEC 1797 <Bengeo,Hartford, , Hertford, England> to Constance BENTLEY Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_igi.asp?batch_number=M072151®ion=2>M072151 1539 - 1812 <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/../../library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=0991364>0991364 Film <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/../../library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=6911390>6911390 Film <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/search_igi.asp?batch_number=M072151®ion=2>M072151 1813 - 1837 <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/../../library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C180%2C0&filmno=0991307>0991307 Film NONE Cheers, Stella At 11:36 AM 20/04/2010, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I was wondering if anyone here had access to the PRs for Bengeo, Tunwell >or Barkway? I'm investigating whether the Potterill family is connected >to my own, I suspect it could be given the rarity of the name/variation >thereof but I keep hitting a brick wall with a Collin Potterill. > >The only references I can find to any baptisms are on the IGI, there are >three conflicting records that suggest he was born circa 1772 in either >Bengeo, Tunwell or Barkway. The most promising is a christening record >on 15/08/1773 in batch C072111 which mentions that his parents were >(another) Collin Potterill and Mary although I can find no other sources >to confirm this... > >There are no Collins in my own tree, so if Collin junior's father was >indeed another Collin, I'd love to find out who Collin Snr's parents were! > >Thanks in advance, > >Tony > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Assuming the street numbers have not been changed it was a public house in 1901. This was also the case in 1911 (you need to look at the enumerator's book to see this). For closer to your date HALS no doubt have Kelly's Directory. Anthony -----Original Message----- From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Thornton-Lane Sent: 20. april 2010 11:44 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] WRIGHT - St Albans In 1925 my Gt Grandfather Harry Wright and his wife Rosina and children Rosina and Harry lived at 30 Holywell Hill, St Albans. Google Streets now shows it as a restaurant called Villadina with 2 storeys above. Does anyone know if it has always been a shop with flats above and what shop it used to be in 1925? Or was it just a residential address? Any help would be appreciated. Regards CerocChick Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In 1925 my Gt Grandfather Harry Wright and his wife Rosina and children Rosina and Harry lived at 30 Holywell Hill, St Albans. Google Streets now shows it as a restaurant called Villadina with 2 storeys above. Does anyone know if it has always been a shop with flats above and what shop it used to be in 1925? Or was it just a residential address? Any help would be appreciated. Regards CerocChick
Hi, i wonder if any kind person could please look up a grave for me at Hodderston cemetery.I would please love a photo of the headstone.If you can help i will supply plot number and name.Thanks a million. Keith in Malta.
Hi, can any kind person please help ? I am looking for a JOB WILLETT on the 1861 and 71 census for Hoddesdon. Job was born about 1831 at Markfield Leicestershire and was a tailor. Any help would be so kind.I would please if possible love the images.Thanks a million. Keith in Malta.
Sent offlist ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith hammond" <s.cronin@internet.vodafone.com.mt> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:14 PM Subject: [HRT] census look up please > Hi, > can any kind person please help ? I am looking for a JOB WILLETT on > the 1861 and 71 census for Hoddesdon. Job was born about 1831 at Markfield > Leicestershire and was a tailor. Any help would be so kind.I would please > if possible love the images.Thanks a million. > > Keith in Malta. > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Did you notice that Hertford Marriages on the HALS web site shows Isaac Webster was from Great Wymondley and Martha Cook from Ickleford? Anthony -----Original Message----- From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard Sent: 14. april 2010 11:40 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] WEBSTER, PALLETT Hi, yes I found Isaac and Martha in IGI for Hitchin and their marriage at Ickleford , and wondered if a quick email to HALS would reveal that all four children were bapt on the same day in 1807 but in fact were born in the years between 1797 and 1807 , my experience is that the vicar or the parish clerk would have written the exact dates of birth or private bapt beside each child`s name , and it would be worth getting a small search done in Hitchin St Mary bapts to check this ..........you may thereby find that William was born in 1799 which would rather confirm your William of the census . It might also in the bapt register give Isaac`s occupation , not certain , and if he was a farmer or corn dealer or a similar occupation it might tie the facts together . And a similar email to Essex RO for the marriage register of Waltham Holy Cross for Wm and Harriet`s marriage c 1822 - 1829. You never know who acted as witnesses to the marriage if there is a Martha or Isaac then you have probably hit the jackpot !!! Good luck !!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Harding" <simon@greynose.net> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] WEBSTER, PALLETT > Elizabeth > Thanks for your help. I think you are talking about the same Chapel Foot > I located. If you look at a map of Offley, you will see that about 3 > miles to the east of the parish is London Road, nowadays the B656 from > Hitchin to Codicote and Welwyn. Chapelfoot is marked on the OS map, it > is about half a mile to the north of the junction with the B651 to St. > Pauls Walden and is known to passers by for the Royal Oak PH. > > Thanks to some handy information from one or two other people I have now > been able to find quite a bit more from the IGI and also the Herts. > archive services (HALS). > > Basically, my William Webster was the son of Isaac Webster. It looks > like Isaac came from Luton but married at Ickleford (a couple of miles > north of Hitchin) in 1797. William and three other children were > baptised together in Hitchin in 1807. Some time after that they moved to > Datchworth where the family farmed up until the 1880s or later. The > eldest son William went to Waltham Abbey as per my original post. > > I note that Arlesey is the next village on from Ickleford so you may > have something there too. I think I need to see the parish registers next. > > Simon. > > elizabeth howard wrote: >> Hi , there is a Chapel Foot in Offley which is , I understand , >> between Hitchin and Luton . and the ATS had a detachment at " Chapel >> Foot >> along London Road " . and as he has given Hitchen . There is also an >> Arlesey , which might be pronounced Alsey which might in turn translate >> into >> Aucey or Ancey .........Arlesey is north of Hitchin . >> You need first though the marriage of Wm to Harriet ? in >> presumably >> Waltham Abbey , as she is born there , c 1822-1829. There is a >> www.walthamabbeygenealogy.co.uk which seems active and it might be worth >> asking them if they have access to the marriage and banns of that period >> and >> see if there is a marriage for Wm and Harriet there. >> Other than that you may have to spend a lot of time in Herts RO >> going through bapt registers for the parishes around Hitchin covering >> 1795-1805 for Wm`s birth . >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi, yes I found Isaac and Martha in IGI for Hitchin and their marriage at Ickleford , and wondered if a quick email to HALS would reveal that all four children were bapt on the same day in 1807 but in fact were born in the years between 1797 and 1807 , my experience is that the vicar or the parish clerk would have written the exact dates of birth or private bapt beside each child`s name , and it would be worth getting a small search done in Hitchin St Mary bapts to check this ..........you may thereby find that William was born in 1799 which would rather confirm your William of the census . It might also in the bapt register give Isaac`s occupation , not certain , and if he was a farmer or corn dealer or a similar occupation it might tie the facts together . And a similar email to Essex RO for the marriage register of Waltham Holy Cross for Wm and Harriet`s marriage c 1822 - 1829. You never know who acted as witnesses to the marriage if there is a Martha or Isaac then you have probably hit the jackpot !!! Good luck !!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Harding" <simon@greynose.net> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] WEBSTER, PALLETT > Elizabeth > Thanks for your help. I think you are talking about the same Chapel Foot > I located. If you look at a map of Offley, you will see that about 3 > miles to the east of the parish is London Road, nowadays the B656 from > Hitchin to Codicote and Welwyn. Chapelfoot is marked on the OS map, it > is about half a mile to the north of the junction with the B651 to St. > Pauls Walden and is known to passers by for the Royal Oak PH. > > Thanks to some handy information from one or two other people I have now > been able to find quite a bit more from the IGI and also the Herts. > archive services (HALS). > > Basically, my William Webster was the son of Isaac Webster. It looks > like Isaac came from Luton but married at Ickleford (a couple of miles > north of Hitchin) in 1797. William and three other children were > baptised together in Hitchin in 1807. Some time after that they moved to > Datchworth where the family farmed up until the 1880s or later. The > eldest son William went to Waltham Abbey as per my original post. > > I note that Arlesey is the next village on from Ickleford so you may > have something there too. I think I need to see the parish registers next. > > Simon. > > elizabeth howard wrote: >> Hi , there is a Chapel Foot in Offley which is , I understand , >> between Hitchin and Luton . and the ATS had a detachment at " Chapel >> Foot >> along London Road " . and as he has given Hitchen . There is also an >> Arlesey , which might be pronounced Alsey which might in turn translate >> into >> Aucey or Ancey .........Arlesey is north of Hitchin . >> You need first though the marriage of Wm to Harriet ? in >> presumably >> Waltham Abbey , as she is born there , c 1822-1829. There is a >> www.walthamabbeygenealogy.co.uk which seems active and it might be worth >> asking them if they have access to the marriage and banns of that period >> and >> see if there is a marriage for Wm and Harriet there. >> Other than that you may have to spend a lot of time in Herts RO >> going through bapt registers for the parishes around Hitchin covering >> 1795-1805 for Wm`s birth . >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Elizabeth Thanks for your help. I think you are talking about the same Chapel Foot I located. If you look at a map of Offley, you will see that about 3 miles to the east of the parish is London Road, nowadays the B656 from Hitchin to Codicote and Welwyn. Chapelfoot is marked on the OS map, it is about half a mile to the north of the junction with the B651 to St. Pauls Walden and is known to passers by for the Royal Oak PH. Thanks to some handy information from one or two other people I have now been able to find quite a bit more from the IGI and also the Herts. archive services (HALS). Basically, my William Webster was the son of Isaac Webster. It looks like Isaac came from Luton but married at Ickleford (a couple of miles north of Hitchin) in 1797. William and three other children were baptised together in Hitchin in 1807. Some time after that they moved to Datchworth where the family farmed up until the 1880s or later. The eldest son William went to Waltham Abbey as per my original post. I note that Arlesey is the next village on from Ickleford so you may have something there too. I think I need to see the parish registers next. Simon. elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi , there is a Chapel Foot in Offley which is , I understand , > between Hitchin and Luton . and the ATS had a detachment at " Chapel Foot > along London Road " . and as he has given Hitchen . There is also an > Arlesey , which might be pronounced Alsey which might in turn translate into > Aucey or Ancey .........Arlesey is north of Hitchin . > You need first though the marriage of Wm to Harriet ? in presumably > Waltham Abbey , as she is born there , c 1822-1829. There is a > www.walthamabbeygenealogy.co.uk which seems active and it might be worth > asking them if they have access to the marriage and banns of that period and > see if there is a marriage for Wm and Harriet there. > Other than that you may have to spend a lot of time in Herts RO > going through bapt registers for the parishes around Hitchin covering > 1795-1805 for Wm`s birth . > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///
Hi , there is a Chapel Foot in Offley which is , I understand , between Hitchin and Luton . and the ATS had a detachment at " Chapel Foot along London Road " . and as he has given Hitchen . There is also an Arlesey , which might be pronounced Alsey which might in turn translate into Aucey or Ancey .........Arlesey is north of Hitchin . You need first though the marriage of Wm to Harriet ? in presumably Waltham Abbey , as she is born there , c 1822-1829. There is a www.walthamabbeygenealogy.co.uk which seems active and it might be worth asking them if they have access to the marriage and banns of that period and see if there is a marriage for Wm and Harriet there. Other than that you may have to spend a lot of time in Herts RO going through bapt registers for the parishes around Hitchin covering 1795-1805 for Wm`s birth . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Harding" <simon@greynose.net> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:36 PM Subject: [HRT] WEBSTER, PALLETT >I am trying to find out about William Webster born 1799 somewhere around > Stevenage or Hitchin. I know that by 1830 he was living in Waltham Abbey > where he was a farmer, miller, corn and flour merchant, and ran barges > on the River Lea up to London. (For the conveyance of oats, barley, > etc.). He lived in Waltham Abbey for the rest of his (long) life. > > I know quite a lot now about his life in Waltham Abbey but have hit a > bit of a brick wall finding out about his origins and earlier generations. > > The 1851 census says he was born in Chapel Foot which I believe is a few > miles south of Hitchin on the B656. In 1861 his birthplace is given as > Ancey (also Herts), and 1871 as W. Hitchin. In 1881 it is Hertford, but > appears struck out with Walkern inserted underneath. > > Does anyone know of a place named Ancey? The closest I can find is > Anstey near Buntingford. > > He had a sister Mary Webster, born about 1805, who married Thomas > Pallett, parish clerk in Datchworth. I think that sits quite well with a > family living in the Codicote/Hitchin area. She is in the 1841 census > but unfortunately died before 1851 which would have given her place of > birth. Pallett is shown as a widower in that census, youngest child > Julia Pallett being 3 years. Julia is staying with her uncle in Waltham > Abbey in the 1861 census. > > I hope there is enough there to maybe connect with someone else's > research. If not, perhaps someone might know how best I could proceed > trying to find some Websters around 1800 in Hertfordshire. Local > research is possible as I live in the area. > > Thanks, > Simon. > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I am trying to find out about William Webster born 1799 somewhere around Stevenage or Hitchin. I know that by 1830 he was living in Waltham Abbey where he was a farmer, miller, corn and flour merchant, and ran barges on the River Lea up to London. (For the conveyance of oats, barley, etc.). He lived in Waltham Abbey for the rest of his (long) life. I know quite a lot now about his life in Waltham Abbey but have hit a bit of a brick wall finding out about his origins and earlier generations. The 1851 census says he was born in Chapel Foot which I believe is a few miles south of Hitchin on the B656. In 1861 his birthplace is given as Ancey (also Herts), and 1871 as W. Hitchin. In 1881 it is Hertford, but appears struck out with Walkern inserted underneath. Does anyone know of a place named Ancey? The closest I can find is Anstey near Buntingford. He had a sister Mary Webster, born about 1805, who married Thomas Pallett, parish clerk in Datchworth. I think that sits quite well with a family living in the Codicote/Hitchin area. She is in the 1841 census but unfortunately died before 1851 which would have given her place of birth. Pallett is shown as a widower in that census, youngest child Julia Pallett being 3 years. Julia is staying with her uncle in Waltham Abbey in the 1861 census. I hope there is enough there to maybe connect with someone else's research. If not, perhaps someone might know how best I could proceed trying to find some Websters around 1800 in Hertfordshire. Local research is possible as I live in the area. Thanks, Simon.
Hello Anthony - thanks for the reminder but I have already contacted Tony off List. I think a call to a local library down Tring way is in order. James. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > Hello James, > You should thank Tony, too, he found the 1911 record. > It looks as if you have the record of Charles's death; if not it can be > downloaded from TheGenealogist.com. They have transcribed the date as 1916 > but is does say dix-sept in the original. It shows Charles was born in > Paris son of Robert Craufurd and Fanny Wolley and that he was married to > Esmeralda Valsamachi. > I live in Denmark so do not know present day Tring. > Anthony > ________________________________________ > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D HIGGINS > [higgs1935@btinternet.com] > Sent: 11 April 2010 19:52 > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > > Hello Anthony - many thanks for your great efforts on my behalf - and my > apologies for > not getting back to you sooner - I have been on grandpa duties, school > half-term. > > In CQGC's obituary his military rank is Commander (retired), R.N., - died > Nice, France 1917 - residence in UK is given as Brightwood. I understand > Henry Robert Gregan Craufurd & CQGC were brothers. > > Quentin son of CQGC was born in France 1879 - he spent some time in the > USA > returned to the UK sometime before 1930 and died in Newcastle upon Tyne in > 1934. He married a Michigan girl and in 1907 a Quentin Jr. came along. > > I was really wondering whether the Craufurd family were/are still, at all > influential in the Tring area. > > Best regards. James. [brother to Dorothy] > > ================ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> > To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > > >> With regard to your original query, yes there were Craufurds (transcribed >> Cranfurd which is how the handwriting reads) at Brightwood House in 1911 >> but neither Quentin nor Charles. Head of Household is Henry R G Craufurd >> JP. Anthony >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tony Pottrell >> [editor@pyroport.com] >> Sent: 08 April 2010 17:19 >> To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY >> >> Similarly, I've found a Quentin CRAUFORD onbord HMS Crescent on the 1911 >> census (Transcribed as Cranford): >> >> Quentin C A Crauford, age 36, Married, Commander, born in Lincolnshire, >> being of the Church of Scotland >> >> Reference RG14PN34972 RD640 SD3 ED13 SN9999 >> >> Tony >> >> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:53:42 +0200, "Anthony M. Carter" >> <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> wrote: >>> In the 1901 census he is a RN Lieutenant on board HMS Vulcan, a Torpedo >>> Depot Ship. The ship is at Grand Harbour, Malta and he is listed as not >> on >>> board. Age 26, married, born Burgh Lincs. This was on Findmypast; >> Ancestry >>> have him but as Cranford. Anthony >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard >>> [elizgh@btinternet.com] >>> Sent: 08 April 2010 14:07 >>> To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY >>> >>> Hi, there is a marriage on ancestry of a Quentin Crauford >> at >>> St Geo Hanover Sq in 1900 . There is a Quentin Charles Crauford b in >> 1875 >>> in Spilsby in Lincs , and a Quentin Crawford b c 1880 Paris, France >> living >>> ni Kingston , Surrey in the 1891 census . Can`t find him in the 1901 >>> census though unless he is the one born in 1897 at Maybole , Ayrshire . >>> >>> >>> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "D HIGGINS" <higgs1935@btinternet.com> >>> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46 PM >>> Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY >>> >>> >>>> Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar >>>> with >>>> the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? >>>> >>>> My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin >>>> Gregan >>>> Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. >>>> >>>> I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. >>>> >>>> Many thanks. Dorothy. > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello James, You should thank Tony, too, he found the 1911 record. It looks as if you have the record of Charles's death; if not it can be downloaded from TheGenealogist.com. They have transcribed the date as 1916 but is does say dix-sept in the original. It shows Charles was born in Paris son of Robert Craufurd and Fanny Wolley and that he was married to Esmeralda Valsamachi. I live in Denmark so do not know present day Tring. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D HIGGINS [higgs1935@btinternet.com] Sent: 11 April 2010 19:52 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY Hello Anthony - many thanks for your great efforts on my behalf - and my apologies for not getting back to you sooner - I have been on grandpa duties, school half-term. In CQGC's obituary his military rank is Commander (retired), R.N., - died Nice, France 1917 - residence in UK is given as Brightwood. I understand Henry Robert Gregan Craufurd & CQGC were brothers. Quentin son of CQGC was born in France 1879 - he spent some time in the USA returned to the UK sometime before 1930 and died in Newcastle upon Tyne in 1934. He married a Michigan girl and in 1907 a Quentin Jr. came along. I was really wondering whether the Craufurd family were/are still, at all influential in the Tring area. Best regards. James. [brother to Dorothy] ================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > With regard to your original query, yes there were Craufurds (transcribed > Cranfurd which is how the handwriting reads) at Brightwood House in 1911 > but neither Quentin nor Charles. Head of Household is Henry R G Craufurd > JP. Anthony > > ________________________________________ > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tony Pottrell > [editor@pyroport.com] > Sent: 08 April 2010 17:19 > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > > Similarly, I've found a Quentin CRAUFORD onbord HMS Crescent on the 1911 > census (Transcribed as Cranford): > > Quentin C A Crauford, age 36, Married, Commander, born in Lincolnshire, > being of the Church of Scotland > > Reference RG14PN34972 RD640 SD3 ED13 SN9999 > > Tony > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:53:42 +0200, "Anthony M. Carter" > <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> wrote: >> In the 1901 census he is a RN Lieutenant on board HMS Vulcan, a Torpedo >> Depot Ship. The ship is at Grand Harbour, Malta and he is listed as not > on >> board. Age 26, married, born Burgh Lincs. This was on Findmypast; > Ancestry >> have him but as Cranford. Anthony >> ________________________________________ >> From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard >> [elizgh@btinternet.com] >> Sent: 08 April 2010 14:07 >> To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY >> >> Hi, there is a marriage on ancestry of a Quentin Crauford > at >> St Geo Hanover Sq in 1900 . There is a Quentin Charles Crauford b in > 1875 >> in Spilsby in Lincs , and a Quentin Crawford b c 1880 Paris, France > living >> ni Kingston , Surrey in the 1891 census . Can`t find him in the 1901 >> census though unless he is the one born in 1897 at Maybole , Ayrshire . >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D HIGGINS" <higgs1935@btinternet.com> >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46 PM >> Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY >> >> >>> Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar >>> with >>> the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? >>> >>> My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin >>> Gregan >>> Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. >>> >>> I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. >>> >>> Many thanks. Dorothy. Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Anthony - many thanks for your great efforts on my behalf - and my apologies for not getting back to you sooner - I have been on grandpa duties, school half-term. In CQGC's obituary his military rank is Commander (retired), R.N., - died Nice, France 1917 - residence in UK is given as Brightwood. I understand Henry Robert Gregan Craufurd & CQGC were brothers. Quentin son of CQGC was born in France 1879 - he spent some time in the USA returned to the UK sometime before 1930 and died in Newcastle upon Tyne in 1934. He married a Michigan girl and in 1907 a Quentin Jr. came along. I was really wondering whether the Craufurd family were/are still, at all influential in the Tring area. Best regards. James. [brother to Dorothy] ================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > With regard to your original query, yes there were Craufurds (transcribed > Cranfurd which is how the handwriting reads) at Brightwood House in 1911 > but neither Quentin nor Charles. Head of Household is Henry R G Craufurd > JP. Anthony > > ________________________________________ > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tony Pottrell > [editor@pyroport.com] > Sent: 08 April 2010 17:19 > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > > Similarly, I've found a Quentin CRAUFORD onbord HMS Crescent on the 1911 > census (Transcribed as Cranford): > > Quentin C A Crauford, age 36, Married, Commander, born in Lincolnshire, > being of the Church of Scotland > > Reference RG14PN34972 RD640 SD3 ED13 SN9999 > > Tony > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:53:42 +0200, "Anthony M. Carter" > <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> wrote: >> In the 1901 census he is a RN Lieutenant on board HMS Vulcan, a Torpedo >> Depot Ship. The ship is at Grand Harbour, Malta and he is listed as not > on >> board. Age 26, married, born Burgh Lincs. This was on Findmypast; > Ancestry >> have him but as Cranford. Anthony >> ________________________________________ >> From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard >> [elizgh@btinternet.com] >> Sent: 08 April 2010 14:07 >> To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY >> >> Hi, there is a marriage on ancestry of a Quentin Crauford > at >> St Geo Hanover Sq in 1900 . There is a Quentin Charles Crauford b in > 1875 >> in Spilsby in Lincs , and a Quentin Crawford b c 1880 Paris, France > living >> ni Kingston , Surrey in the 1891 census . Can`t find him in the 1901 >> census though unless he is the one born in 1897 at Maybole , Ayrshire . >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "D HIGGINS" <higgs1935@btinternet.com> >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46 PM >> Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY >> >> >>> Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar >>> with >>> the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? >>> >>> My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin >>> Gregan >>> Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. >>> >>> I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. >>> >>> Many thanks. Dorothy.
With regard to your original query, yes there were Craufurds (transcribed Cranfurd which is how the handwriting reads) at Brightwood House in 1911 but neither Quentin nor Charles. Head of Household is Henry R G Craufurd JP. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tony Pottrell [editor@pyroport.com] Sent: 08 April 2010 17:19 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY Similarly, I've found a Quentin CRAUFORD onbord HMS Crescent on the 1911 census (Transcribed as Cranford): Quentin C A Crauford, age 36, Married, Commander, born in Lincolnshire, being of the Church of Scotland Reference RG14PN34972 RD640 SD3 ED13 SN9999 Tony On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:53:42 +0200, "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> wrote: > In the 1901 census he is a RN Lieutenant on board HMS Vulcan, a Torpedo > Depot Ship. The ship is at Grand Harbour, Malta and he is listed as not on > board. Age 26, married, born Burgh Lincs. This was on Findmypast; Ancestry > have him but as Cranford. Anthony > ________________________________________ > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard > [elizgh@btinternet.com] > Sent: 08 April 2010 14:07 > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > > Hi, there is a marriage on ancestry of a Quentin Crauford at > St Geo Hanover Sq in 1900 . There is a Quentin Charles Crauford b in 1875 > in Spilsby in Lincs , and a Quentin Crawford b c 1880 Paris, France living > ni Kingston , Surrey in the 1891 census . Can`t find him in the 1901 > census though unless he is the one born in 1897 at Maybole , Ayrshire . > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D HIGGINS" <higgs1935@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46 PM > Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > > >> Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar >> with >> the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? >> >> My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin >> Gregan >> Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. >> >> I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. >> >> Many thanks. Dorothy. >> >> >> >> Hertfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Are you aware that the service records of Quentin and CQGC are available from National Archives Online together with two other RN Crawfords. You pay your money and get instant gratification in the form of a pdf. I have had excellent experience with seamen's records. Complete career, tattoos, colour of eyes and much more. While checking this out I noted that Craufurds were active in the Army and earned 2 VCs. Quentin had married Ann Blackwell on 1 October 1899. Is he the same Quentin who founded the Fairy Inestigation Society? Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard [elizgh@btinternet.com] Sent: 08 April 2010 14:07 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY Hi, there is a marriage on ancestry of a Quentin Crauford at St Geo Hanover Sq in 1900 . There is a Quentin Charles Crauford b in 1875 in Spilsby in Lincs , and a Quentin Crawford b c 1880 Paris, France living ni Kingston , Surrey in the 1891 census . Can`t find him in the 1901 census though unless he is the one born in 1897 at Maybole , Ayrshire . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "D HIGGINS" <higgs1935@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46 PM Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar with > the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? > > My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin > Gregan > Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. > > I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. > > Many thanks. Dorothy. > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In the 1901 census he is a RN Lieutenant on board HMS Vulcan, a Torpedo Depot Ship. The ship is at Grand Harbour, Malta and he is listed as not on board. Age 26, married, born Burgh Lincs. This was on Findmypast; Ancestry have him but as Cranford. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard [elizgh@btinternet.com] Sent: 08 April 2010 14:07 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY Hi, there is a marriage on ancestry of a Quentin Crauford at St Geo Hanover Sq in 1900 . There is a Quentin Charles Crauford b in 1875 in Spilsby in Lincs , and a Quentin Crawford b c 1880 Paris, France living ni Kingston , Surrey in the 1891 census . Can`t find him in the 1901 census though unless he is the one born in 1897 at Maybole , Ayrshire . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "D HIGGINS" <higgs1935@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46 PM Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar with > the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? > > My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin > Gregan > Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. > > I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. > > Many thanks. Dorothy. > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Similarly, I've found a Quentin CRAUFORD onbord HMS Crescent on the 1911 census (Transcribed as Cranford): Quentin C A Crauford, age 36, Married, Commander, born in Lincolnshire, being of the Church of Scotland Reference RG14PN34972 RD640 SD3 ED13 SN9999 Tony On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:53:42 +0200, "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> wrote: > In the 1901 census he is a RN Lieutenant on board HMS Vulcan, a Torpedo > Depot Ship. The ship is at Grand Harbour, Malta and he is listed as not on > board. Age 26, married, born Burgh Lincs. This was on Findmypast; Ancestry > have him but as Cranford. Anthony > ________________________________________ > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard > [elizgh@btinternet.com] > Sent: 08 April 2010 14:07 > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > > Hi, there is a marriage on ancestry of a Quentin Crauford at > St Geo Hanover Sq in 1900 . There is a Quentin Charles Crauford b in 1875 > in Spilsby in Lincs , and a Quentin Crawford b c 1880 Paris, France living > ni Kingston , Surrey in the 1891 census . Can`t find him in the 1901 > census though unless he is the one born in 1897 at Maybole , Ayrshire . > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D HIGGINS" <higgs1935@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46 PM > Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > > >> Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar >> with >> the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? >> >> My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin >> Gregan >> Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. >> >> I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. >> >> Many thanks. Dorothy. >> >> >> >> Hertfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi, there is a marriage on ancestry of a Quentin Crauford at St Geo Hanover Sq in 1900 . There is a Quentin Charles Crauford b in 1875 in Spilsby in Lincs , and a Quentin Crawford b c 1880 Paris, France living ni Kingston , Surrey in the 1891 census . Can`t find him in the 1901 census though unless he is the one born in 1897 at Maybole , Ayrshire . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "D HIGGINS" <higgs1935@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:46 PM Subject: [HRT] CRAUFURD FAMILY > Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar with > the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? > > My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin > Gregan > Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. > > I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. > > Many thanks. Dorothy. > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello - I am new to the List - is their anyone who might be familiar with the CRAUFURD family of Brightwood House, Tring? My interest lies with - QUENTIN CRAUFURD - the son of Charles Quentin Gregan Craufurd. CQGC resided at Brightwood House, circa 1906. I would be grateful for any kind of information about this family. Many thanks. Dorothy.