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    1. Re: [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford
    2. Anthony M. Carter
    3. With regard to your other question about life in Hertford, are you familiar with www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk ? Select places in the menu at left and navigate to the Hertford page which lists a wealth of books to consult. In addition there is A Brief History of Hertford you can find by searching on Google. I found it quite informative when interested in the Butcherley Green area. Anthony -----Original Message----- From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard Sent: 8. september 2010 13:51 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford Hi, they are mis transcribed as Aram in the 1841 and are living in the parish of Bengeo in Herts . They are living at Porthills, and Wm Hy Aram is described as 35, clerk to a solicitor, N for not born in county , with him is Charlotte, 35, N , Henry , 12, N, Emily ,8 , William, 6 , Thomas, 4, Edward, 2 all Y from Emily onward . There is in A2A and probably on the HALS site , a very likely letter dated Sept 1845, from Wm Toms of Cox`s Sq, Spitalfields, to Mr Wm Henry Oram , thanking him for his letter etec ...........and earlier an apprentice indenture signed by John Davies, mayor of Hertford and Wm Hy Oram ......maybe John Davies was the solicitor for whom Wm Hy worked ? although that said there are many other apprentice indentures which are signed by Wm Hy . There is a further letter between Wm Toms, malt factor of Cox`s Sq and Wm Hy on behalf of Philip Longmore , Hertford , maybe this is the solicitor for whm he worked in 1845 . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Heeley" <gailheeley1@yahoo.com.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:00 AM Subject: [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford > Hi, I am new to this list and have just started looking for my family in > Hertford. I am looking for any information on a William Henry Oram born in > 1805 > in Stowey, Somerset. He married a Charlotte Hickman Busby in 1827 in > Stepney, > London. On the 1851 census he is living in St Andrews Street, Hertford > with his > wife and family Emily b 1833, William b. 1835, Thomas b. 1837, Edward b. > 1840, > Charlotte Anne b. 1841 and Frederick b. 1845. All the children were born > in > Hertford. Cannot find them on the 1841 census? William also had another > son > Henry Busby b. 1829 (not quite sure where, birth different on each > census) > > Does anyone on this list have any info on this family. I am also trying to > find > what life was like in Hertford at the time this family was there. William > was a > Solicitors General Clerk. Where may he have worked there? Any help!! > > Thanks > Gail > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/08/2010 08:13:15
    1. [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford
    2. elizabeth howard
    3. Hi, they are mis transcribed as Aram in the 1841 and are living in the parish of Bengeo in Herts . They are living at Porthills, and Wm Hy Aram is described as 35, clerk to a solicitor, N for not born in county , with him is Charlotte, 35, N , Henry , 12, N, Emily ,8 , William, 6 , Thomas, 4, Edward, 2 all Y from Emily onward . There is in A2A and probably on the HALS site , a very likely letter dated Sept 1845, from Wm Toms of Cox`s Sq, Spitalfields, to Mr Wm Henry Oram , thanking him for his letter etec ...........and earlier an apprentice indenture signed by John Davies, mayor of Hertford and Wm Hy Oram ......maybe John Davies was the solicitor for whom Wm Hy worked ? although that said there are many other apprentice indentures which are signed by Wm Hy . There is a further letter between Wm Toms, malt factor of Cox`s Sq and Wm Hy on behalf of Philip Longmore , Hertford , maybe this is the solicitor for whm he worked in 1845 . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Heeley" <gailheeley1@yahoo.com.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:00 AM Subject: [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford > Hi, I am new to this list and have just started looking for my family in > Hertford. I am looking for any information on a William Henry Oram born in > 1805 > in Stowey, Somerset. He married a Charlotte Hickman Busby in 1827 in > Stepney, > London. On the 1851 census he is living in St Andrews Street, Hertford > with his > wife and family Emily b 1833, William b. 1835, Thomas b. 1837, Edward b. > 1840, > Charlotte Anne b. 1841 and Frederick b. 1845. All the children were born > in > Hertford. Cannot find them on the 1841 census? William also had another > son > Henry Busby b. 1829 (not quite sure where, birth different on each > census) > > Does anyone on this list have any info on this family. I am also trying to > find > what life was like in Hertford at the time this family was there. William > was a > Solicitors General Clerk. Where may he have worked there? Any help!! > > Thanks > Gail > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/08/2010 06:51:14
    1. Re: [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford
    2. Gail Heeley
    3. Thanks Elizabeth how wonderful that you found him. Now being new what is A2A and how do I look it up and find the info you gave me. Where can I get a copy of the letters Thanks Gail ________________________________ From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 9:51:14 PM Subject: [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford Hi, they are mis transcribed as Aram in the 1841 and are living in the parish of Bengeo in Herts . They are living at Porthills, and Wm Hy Aram is described as 35, clerk to a solicitor, N for not born in county , with him is Charlotte, 35, N , Henry , 12, N, Emily ,8 , William, 6 , Thomas, 4, Edward, 2 all Y from Emily onward . There is in A2A and probably on the HALS site , a very likely letter dated Sept 1845, from Wm Toms of Cox`s Sq, Spitalfields, to Mr Wm Henry Oram , thanking him for his letter etec ...........and earlier an apprentice indenture signed by John Davies, mayor of Hertford and Wm Hy Oram ......maybe John Davies was the solicitor for whom Wm Hy worked ? although that said there are many other apprentice indentures which are signed by Wm Hy . There is a further letter between Wm Toms, malt factor of Cox`s Sq and Wm Hy on behalf of Philip Longmore , Hertford , maybe this is the solicitor for whm he worked in 1845 . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Heeley" <gailheeley1@yahoo.com.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:00 AM Subject: [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford > Hi, I am new to this list and have just started looking for my family in > Hertford. I am looking for any information on a William Henry Oram born in > 1805 > in Stowey, Somerset. He married a Charlotte Hickman Busby in 1827 in > Stepney, > London. On the 1851 census he is living in St Andrews Street, Hertford > with his > wife and family Emily b 1833, William b. 1835, Thomas b. 1837, Edward b. > 1840, > Charlotte Anne b. 1841 and Frederick b. 1845. All the children were born > in > Hertford. Cannot find them on the 1841 census? William also had another > son > Henry Busby b. 1829 (not quite sure where, birth different on each > census) > > Does anyone on this list have any info on this family. I am also trying to > find > what life was like in Hertford at the time this family was there. William > was a > Solicitors General Clerk. Where may he have worked there? Any help!! > > Thanks > Gail > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/08/2010 12:47:16
    1. [HRT] Oram Family of Hertford
    2. Gail Heeley
    3. Hi, I am new to this list and have just started looking for my family in Hertford. I am looking for any information on a William Henry Oram born in 1805 in Stowey, Somerset. He married a Charlotte Hickman Busby in 1827 in Stepney, London. On the 1851 census he is living in St Andrews Street, Hertford with his wife and family Emily b 1833, William b. 1835, Thomas b. 1837, Edward b. 1840, Charlotte Anne b. 1841 and Frederick b. 1845. All the children were born in Hertford. Cannot find them on the 1841 census? William also had another son Henry Busby b. 1829 (not quite sure where, birth different on each census) Does anyone on this list have any info on this family. I am also trying to find what life was like in Hertford at the time this family was there. William was a Solicitors General Clerk. Where may he have worked there? Any help!! Thanks Gail

    09/07/2010 07:00:28
    1. Re: [HRT] Chief constables
    2. Anthony M. Carter
    3. I noticed that the Militia Lists for men who served 1761-2 mention three Chief Constables in Dacorum Hundred: Thomas Hallam, William Franklin and Thomas Lake. A list of parishes follows each name. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elaine Saunders [Elaine_Saunders@completetext.com] Sent: 24 July 2010 22:09 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Chief constables Here are the names of chief constables in Herts for around 1839. This was before we had the county constabulary so they supervised several parish constables in their district. They were probably unpaid but I get the feeling that they were probably quite well off. There are some unusual names here so, if anyone would like any further info, contact me. Otherwise, if you have anything to share, I'd be grateful to hear it. Thomas Bell, Cheshunt area, Francis Machon Gt Amwell area William Sharp jnr stanstead area George Rust Buckland area William Holyoak Rust Gt Hadham area Benjamin Christy Ashwell area - believed farmer of 350 acres Thomas Pennyfeather welwyn area Henry Pallet Bennington area - there was also a Pallett as overseer of the poor in Essendon around the same time but I don't know if there was any connection George Oliver Knebworth area Micheal Chapman Hitchin area James Oakley Offley area Thomas Seear Hemel Hempstead area John Isaac House Wheathampstead area. who may have lived at Grove Farm Wheathampstead. Elaine Saunders Author: A Book About Pub Names www.completetext.com/ebooks.html Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/15/2010 10:55:39
    1. Re: [HRT] Kimpton - a bit of local knowledge needed!
    2. Clare Pascoe
    3. If you put "meadow cottage kimpton uk" into google maps, it comes up with a building in High St, Kimpton, and has a street view image as well. Don't know whether this is the right one, since I imagine it's not an uncommon name, but at least it's a starting point. Clare Rebecca Hanna wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if anyone local to the Kimpton area knows whether the Moss Children's Home (also known as Meadow Cottage) is still standing, and if so, whereabouts in Kimpton is it? We are quite likely making a trip to Kimpton this week, and it's one of the places my Mum would love to see if it still exists, as it was built by a distant relative of ours. > > Would really appreciate any assistance! > > Thanks, > > Becky > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/10/2010 06:17:30
    1. Re: [HRT] Kimpton - a bit of local knowledge needed!
    2. Anthony M. Carter
    3. Hi Becky, It certainly comes up on Google Maps as: Meadow Cottage, High St, Kimpton, Hitchin, Hertfordshire SG4 8RA. It is just west of The White Horse. In Street View a house in the approximate vicinity has an oval sign to the right of the front door with two words that are indistinct but of the right length to be Meadow Cottage.The Kimpton Village site has an account of the Moss Home during WW2 at http://www.kimptonvillage.tsohost.co.uk/war.htm Good hunting. Anthony ________________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Hanna [rebeccaclaire86@hotmail.com] Sent: 09 August 2010 23:58 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Kimpton - a bit of local knowledge needed! Hi all, I was wondering if anyone local to the Kimpton area knows whether the Moss Children's Home (also known as Meadow Cottage) is still standing, and if so, whereabouts in Kimpton is it? We are quite likely making a trip to Kimpton this week, and it's one of the places my Mum would love to see if it still exists, as it was built by a distant relative of ours. Would really appreciate any assistance! Thanks, Becky Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/09/2010 10:41:16
    1. [HRT] Kimpton - a bit of local knowledge needed!
    2. Rebecca Hanna
    3. Hi all, I was wondering if anyone local to the Kimpton area knows whether the Moss Children's Home (also known as Meadow Cottage) is still standing, and if so, whereabouts in Kimpton is it? We are quite likely making a trip to Kimpton this week, and it's one of the places my Mum would love to see if it still exists, as it was built by a distant relative of ours. Would really appreciate any assistance! Thanks, Becky

    08/09/2010 04:58:06
    1. Re: [HRT] Chief constables
    2. Anthony M. Carter
    3. I took a look at John Isaac House. He died in 1849 (buried at Wheathampstead) and his widow Ann is found 1851 in Paddington with her daughter Ann who was blind (seeking treatment in nearby Harley Street?). One wonders if the job as chief constable was passed on to Thomas House, the son who took over Grove Farm (1851 census), or his other son John (John Isaac in parish baptisms) who was a farmer and brewer in Harpenden (1841 and 1851 census). With your interest in pubs it is noteworthy that members of the House family were publicans in Wheathampstead, too. Probably they included the Isaac House who was father of John Isaac the elder. Keep up the good work. Anthony -----Original Message----- From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elaine Saunders Sent: 24. juli 2010 22:10 To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Chief constables Here are the names of chief constables in Herts for around 1839. This was before we had the county constabulary so they supervised several parish constables in their district. They were probably unpaid but I get the feeling that they were probably quite well off. There are some unusual names here so, if anyone would like any further info, contact me. Otherwise, if you have anything to share, I'd be grateful to hear it. Thomas Bell, Cheshunt area, Francis Machon Gt Amwell area William Sharp jnr stanstead area George Rust Buckland area William Holyoak Rust Gt Hadham area Benjamin Christy Ashwell area - believed farmer of 350 acres Thomas Pennyfeather welwyn area Henry Pallet Bennington area - there was also a Pallett as overseer of the poor in Essendon around the same time but I don't know if there was any connection George Oliver Knebworth area Micheal Chapman Hitchin area James Oakley Offley area Thomas Seear Hemel Hempstead area John Isaac House Wheathampstead area. who may have lived at Grove Farm Wheathampstead. Elaine Saunders Author: A Book About Pub Names www.completetext.com/ebooks.html Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2010 04:52:11
    1. [HRT] Obituary in the County Hall in Hertford
    2. critchley david
    3. *I live in Lancashire and I need someone to look for an obituary in the 1946 newspapers in the **Archives and Local Studies unit of County Hall in Hertford. I do have the details of death. The subject was my mum's first husband, so this is of great personal interest. Thanks. *

    08/03/2010 08:41:37
    1. Re: [HRT] ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 101
    2. Graham Price
    3. At 05:52 PM 26/07/2010, you wrote: >Apologies to the list. I was clearing out my inbox and managed to post two >old replies on village policing by mistake. Sorry. > >Elaine Saunders Can happen to anyone. Computers often make a fool of us unlike the old days of paper and envelopes. In those days you absolutely knew where everything was and could put your foot on it and take care of it without any probs. These days with computers you never know (especially if you are over 50) what you might accidentally send out to whoever you do not know, have never met, or have yet to meet, or might never meet. Computers were designed to embarrass us, no doubt about it - they show up all our foils, our inadequacies and our inconsistencies. Computers take over. Computers make you look silly when you really meant to be serious and even when you're serious they still make you look comic. Never mind Elaine, one day a computer just might be designed to stop us from making ourselves silly, but between you and me pigs might fly. In the meanwhile simply enjoy. Cheers Graham Researching in Hertfordshire BENNETT, KITE, PERRY.

    07/26/2010 01:13:34
    1. Re: [HRT] ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 101
    2. Elaine Saunders
    3. Apologies to the list. I was clearing out my inbox and managed to post two old replies on village policing by mistake. Sorry. Elaine Saunders

    07/26/2010 02:52:46
    1. Re: [HRT] ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 73
    2. Elaine Saunders
    3. > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 20:43:27 +0000 (GMT) > From: Rosemary Williams <ro.williams@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [HRT] Parish Constables >> Elaine, > I was handed down a story that one of my forebears was a village constable > and that a truncheon and pair of handcuffs were handed down. I have since > seen the truncheon and handcuffs, the truncheon inscribed 'Broxbourne' and > 'George IV'. No-one in the family can remember who they belonged to. The > names I have in the family tree in the Broxbourne area at this period > (1820 -1830) are MACER, CLARK, HOW, LOWEN, possibly also > FURNESS/FURNIS/FURNACE. I would be very interested to hear if you find > anything that connects. > > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 12:58:46 +1000 > From: "Sandra Wilmot" <wilmots@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [HRT] Parish Constables > > I have a Samuel Bigg in my tree, born c1801 in Codicote, Hrt. > He was parish Constable in 1833 & 1834, this position being an unpaid one, > although he was sworn in at St.Albans. > >

    07/25/2010 11:04:54
    1. [HRT] Chief constables
    2. Elaine Saunders
    3. Here are the names of chief constables in Herts for around 1839. This was before we had the county constabulary so they supervised several parish constables in their district. They were probably unpaid but I get the feeling that they were probably quite well off. There are some unusual names here so, if anyone would like any further info, contact me. Otherwise, if you have anything to share, I'd be grateful to hear it. Thomas Bell, Cheshunt area, Francis Machon Gt Amwell area William Sharp jnr stanstead area George Rust Buckland area William Holyoak Rust Gt Hadham area Benjamin Christy Ashwell area - believed farmer of 350 acres Thomas Pennyfeather welwyn area Henry Pallet Bennington area - there was also a Pallett as overseer of the poor in Essendon around the same time but I don't know if there was any connection George Oliver Knebworth area Micheal Chapman Hitchin area James Oakley Offley area Thomas Seear Hemel Hempstead area John Isaac House Wheathampstead area. who may have lived at Grove Farm Wheathampstead. Elaine Saunders Author: A Book About Pub Names www.completetext.com/ebooks.html

    07/24/2010 03:09:57
    1. [HRT] Death of Mrs. M. PHILLIPS ( 1838 )
    2. >From The Times, Wednesday, Nov. 28, 1838; pg.7; Issue 16898; col E DIED. On Saturday, the 24th inst., in the 29th year of her age, of puerperal fever, Monica, the wife of John PHILLIPS , Esq., of Royston, Herts.

    07/23/2010 11:12:38
    1. Re: [HRT] Ashby Surname
    2. sue
    3. Hi Nick, So nice to hear from you... Well, I thought they were supposed to be Leics too, but am trying to cover all bases... :-) And, the will of Thomas, of whom, I spoke, below says he is from Herts....So, if nothing else, I hoping to rule out as many as possible, and maybe make some connections. I've already seen 3 brothers named. I'm going to get all the wills I can find, on them.. Have you done a DNA? I know you are on the Ashby list. Are you from the U.S.? Sue On 7/12/2010 2:56 PM, Nick Ashby wrote: > Hi I am from the Hertfordshire Ashby's and have not found a > connection,I thought most of the USA Ashby's,were from Leics > > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:22:30 -0500, sue wrote: > Hello List, > > > > I'm posting to this list because, 'supposedly' my husband's Ashby line > > came from Hertfordshire.. > > I maintain the ASHBY-L (list) at rootsweb and we have a few folks who > > have done the DNA test but, don't believe we have anyone from the UK > > that has tested. > > > > The first known/proven Ashby ancestor in the U.S. (for many of us) is > > the Thomas Ashby (1680-1752) in VA who may have been born in England. > > he may have been from Ashby de la Zouche and there is a John Ashby whose > > immigration from the U.K. was to South Carolina. He married a > > Thorowgood. There is a connection to a Quenby estate, because the John > > named his property in SC, Quenby. > > But, many people mistakenly believe that he is the father of Thomas.. He > > is NOT !. There were Thorowgood/Thorogood men in VA, too. He left family > > in SC but he and his wife, Elizabeth returned to England. > > > > So, here I am asking if any of you on the list can help? We especially > > need a male Ashby, who has taken the DNA test or would be willing to > > take it for at least the 37 marker..(FamilyTreeDNA site has a sale going > > on, now). > > > > Or, if any Ashby has some documentation that can tie us together, that > > would be really appreciated!! > > Thanks so much for any help. > > Sue Ashby > > > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    07/12/2010 11:16:28
    1. Re: [HRT] Ashby Surname
    2. Nick Ashby
    3. Hi I am from the Hertfordshire Ashby's and have not found a connection,I thought most of the USA Ashby's,were from Leics On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:22:30 -0500, sue wrote: Hello List, > > I'm posting to this list because, 'supposedly' my husband's Ashby line > came from Hertfordshire.. > I maintain the ASHBY-L (list) at rootsweb and we have a few folks who > have done the DNA test but, don't believe we have anyone from the UK > that has tested. > > The first known/proven Ashby ancestor in the U.S. (for many of us) is > the Thomas Ashby (1680-1752) in VA who may have been born in England. > he may have been from Ashby de la Zouche and there is a John Ashby whose > immigration from the U.K. was to South Carolina. He married a > Thorowgood. There is a connection to a Quenby estate, because the John > named his property in SC, Quenby. > But, many people mistakenly believe that he is the father of Thomas.. He > is NOT !. There were Thorowgood/Thorogood men in VA, too. He left family > in SC but he and his wife, Elizabeth returned to England. > > So, here I am asking if any of you on the list can help? We especially > need a male Ashby, who has taken the DNA test or would be willing to > take it for at least the 37 marker..(FamilyTreeDNA site has a sale going > on, now). > > Or, if any Ashby has some documentation that can tie us together, that > would be really appreciated!! > Thanks so much for any help. > Sue Ashby > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    07/12/2010 09:56:47
    1. [HRT] Orphanage in Harpenden
    2. Elaine Saunders
    3. The only orphanage I've heard of in Harpenden was the National Children's Home on Ambrose Lane. It's huge, still standing, and now occupied by Youth With A Mission and, I believe, a charity that runs Mercy Ships to Africa. Here's a link to its history page http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/answers/who-was-who/who-harpenden-orphanage-dell.htm A friend tells me there's a little children's cemetary up there. >From there it is around a fifteen minute walk to Manland Avenue where there is currently a school. It looks like it was built in the 1960s but I don't know whether there was one there before that. Perhaps your mother lived at the orphanage but went to school in Manland. Between the NCH and Manland School there's also St George's secondary school which, looking at the buildings, would have been around in your mother's time. Good luck with your search Elaine Saunders www.completetext.com

    07/12/2010 04:06:04
    1. [HRT] school in Harpenden, Manland Avenue
    2. Anne Treadwell
    3. There was a school there in the 1940s and '50s, I think on Manland Avenue itself -- Manland School, which relatives of mine attended at one time -- a hop, skip and jump from where I grew up on Station Road. Don't know about the orphanage -- though I remember a National Children's Home nearby in the same decades. I think it may have been on Westfield Avenue .....? Anne -----Original Message----- From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eng-hertfordshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: July-12-10 4:01 AM To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 97 Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:46:57 +0800 From: mal parr <parrsbay@iinet.net.au> Subject: [HRT] Orphanage in Harpenden To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4C3976F1.1070507@iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed My late mother was at an orphanage in Manland Avenue (?), Harpenden from around 1910-1920. I assume that the children would attend a nearby school, so I would be most grateful if anyone can give a clue as to which school this would be, and if any school records are available for inspection? Thanks in advance for any advice. Mal in W. Australia

    07/12/2010 03:25:34
    1. Re: [HRT] Bunnage/ Ogglesby
    2. Coljean
    3. Hello Janet Thanks for your reply. I must look for the Herts marriage list. I hadn't thought to look for such a thing. Regards Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Bunnage/ Ogglesby > Jean, > > Herts Direct Online Marriage Index shows the marriage as between George > BUNAGE & Sarah OGGLESBY. Searching on the same Index between 1800-35, it > does not show a male OG(G)LESBY marriage to a Sarah. >

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