Hello Tezz, The cheapest is the local County Records Office to get the record details or a local Mormon Family History Centre, see http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rg.asp I forgot http://www.familyrelatives.org is quite good for Birth Marriage Death records - I have found it more cost effective than http://www.familyrelatives.org Pre about 1905 you can use http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ the same on www.Ancestry.com with less detail. But they are not complete records. But Free BMD will leed you to the local Registry Office [its cheaper for certificates normally]. Also look at http://www.genesconnected.co.uk/ that is free and may solve some problems. Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Family History" <genealogy101@hotmail.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Herts] interests in Stevenage, Hertfordshire; ANSELL, > BYGRAVE, CARPENTER, GILBERT, GRIMES, KITCHENER, NORMAN, ODELL, PLUM, > RANCE, SEARLE, SELL, SMITH WABEY, WELLS, WHITTLE > > >> Hi >> >> I have an Ansell interest too from St Albans, born in 1928, which i >> realise is significantly later than you are researching....Her name is >> Emily Mildred Ansell...have no idea who her parents are... >> >> Kind regrads >> >> Tezz >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger >> http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the >> message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other >> readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Hello Tezz, You need a birth Certificate for her which will give her parents names and DOB. From that you can get a marriage Certificate for her parents and then you should be close to the [magic] date of the 1901 Census. One there it should be reasonably easy to trace through the generations back to the 1851 Census. Thence, you can use the IGI and parish records with much luck to 1580 when records began. You should be able to support the documentation with a whole host of tax records, wills, court records, electoral roles, et cetera and can go back even further. Well that is the theory. Try to include other siblings, and even cousins, in your research. Each generation has two parents to look for so for every 100 years you have about family surnames to look up, so in 200 years 64, 300 years 512+ and so on. Plenty to keep you busy, and you will probably meet your self along the way [loops], and a few illegitimacies. If you need more help just post a message on this Messageboard or the relevant Surname Board. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Family History" <genealogy101@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Herts] interests in Stevenage, Hertfordshire; ANSELL, BYGRAVE, CARPENTER, GILBERT, GRIMES, KITCHENER, NORMAN, ODELL, PLUM, RANCE, SEARLE, SELL, SMITH WABEY, WELLS, WHITTLE > Hi > > I have an Ansell interest too from St Albans, born in 1928, which i > realise is significantly later than you are researching....Her name is > Emily Mildred Ansell...have no idea who her parents are... > > Kind regrads > > Tezz > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >

Hi I have an Ansell interest too from St Albans, born in 1928, which i realise is significantly later than you are researching....Her name is Emily Mildred Ansell...have no idea who her parents are... Kind regrads Tezz _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hello Peter, I have just downloaded a family tree from Ancestry.com which I have merged with mine. Have a look and see if any of your ANCELL's or ANSELL's are on it. Ancestry always comes up trumps for me! but it is one of those things if you do not use its facilities you do not get the benefit Ray Descendants of James ANSELL ---------------------------------------------- 1. James ANSELL (b.1737-Watton at Stone d.Bef 1810) sp: Hannah WABEY{+} (b.1738- m.Stevenage,Hertfordshire17 Jun 1759 d.1810-) |-2. Edward ANSELL (b.5 Mar 1765-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | sp: Anne SMITH (b.1765-Stevenage,Hertfordshire m.9 Aug 1790) | |-3. Benjamin ANSELL (b.1811-Stevenage,Hertfordshire d.Bef 1871) | | sp: Jane RANCE (b.1813-Stevenage,Hertfordshire m.30 Apr 1836 d.Bef 1871) | | |-4. George (H)ANSELL (b.4 Aug 1844-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | | sp: Elizabeth Ann WHITTLE (b.20 Jul 1856-Bolton,Lancashire m.1881) | | |-4. Emma ANSELL (b.1836-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | | sp: George SEARLE (b.1832-Hitchen,Herts m.2 May 1857) | | |-4. James ANSELL (b.1 Dec 1839-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Edward ANSELL (b.1843-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | | sp: Ann UNKNOWN (m.1865) | | |-4. Ellen (Nellie) ANSELL (b.2 Feb 1847-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | | sp: Thomas NORMAN (b.21 Aug 1843-Stevenage,Hertfordshire m.24 Sep 1866) | | |-4. Abraham (Abel) ANSELL (b.5 Aug 1849-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | | sp: Elizabeth Ann WHITTLE (b.20 Jul 1856-Bolton,Lancashire m.6 May 1878) | | |-4. Fanny ANSELL (b.Jan 1851-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | | sp: Daniel BYGRAVE (b.9 Feb 1875-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. William ANSELL (b.1853-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | | sp: Emma CARPENTER (b.1855-Darwen,Lancashire m.7 Feb 1878) | | +-4. Eliza ANSELL (b.1854-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-3. Edward ANSELL (b.1791-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | sp: Sarah UNKNOWN (b.1793-Enfield m.1834) | |-3. Elizabeth ANSELL (b.1792-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-3. Mary Ann ANSELL (b.1794-Stevenage,Hertfordshire d.Sep 1794-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-3. Charlotte ANSELL (b.1800-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-3. Sarah ANSELL (b.1803-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | sp: William WELLS (m.3 Nov 1838) | |-3. John ANSELL (b.1805-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | sp: Lydia GILBERT (b.1801 m.23 Sep 1832) | | |-4. Eliza ANSELL (b.1832-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Emma ANSELL (b.1833-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Mary ANSELL (b.1837-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Benjamin ANSELL (b.1838-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Elizabeth ANSELL (b.1840-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Ann ANSELL (b.1842-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | +-4. Louisa ANSELL (b.1832-Stevenage,Hertfordshire d.Apr 1832-Gravely,Stevenage,Herts) | |-3. Martha ANSELL (b.1807-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-3. Ann ANSELL (b.1813-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-3. Richard ANSELL (b.1815-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | sp: Amelea UNKNOWN (b.1815-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | sp: Lydia RANCE (b.1821-Stevenage,Hertfordshire m.4 Jun 1848) | | |-4. Elizabeth ANSELL (b.1849-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. George ANSELL (b.1851-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. David ANSELL (b.1852-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Amelia ANSELL (b.1854-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Jesse ANSELL (b.1858-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | |-4. Frederick ANSELL (b.1860-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | +-4. Elizabeth ANSELL (b.1864-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-3. Maria ANSELL (b.1798-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | | sp: Thomas GRIMES (m.1817) | +-3. Samuel ANSELL (b.1818) | sp: Sarah UNKNOWN (b.1815-Aston,Herts m.1843) | |-4. William ANSELL (b.1843-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-4. Sarah ANSELL (b.1844-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-4. Charles ANSELL (b.1848-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-4. Mary Ann ANSELL (b.1851-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-4. Ellen ANSELL (b.1856-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | +-4. Noah ANSELL (b.1859-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-2. William ANSELL (b.1759-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-2. James ANSELL (b.1761-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-2. Hannah ANSELL (b.1763-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-2. Sarah ANSELL (b.1767-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-2. Mary ANSELL (b.1769-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-2. John ANSELL (b.1771-Stevenage,Hertfordshire d.13 Feb 1825-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | sp: Sarah UNKNOWN | sp: Susannah SELL (b.c1771-Shoreditch m.1794) | |-3. Anne ANSELL (b.1805-Shoreditch) | |-3. Henry ANSELL (b.1801-Shoreditch d.1802-Shoreditch) | |-3. Elizabeth ANSELL (b.1800-Shoreditch) | |-3. John ANSELL (b.1798-Shoreditch) | |-3. Alice ANSELL (b.1796-Shoreditch) | |-3. Joseph Henry ANSELL (b.1794-Shoreditch) | sp: UNKNOWN |-2. Benjamin ANSELL (b.1779-Stevenage,Hertfordshire d.Bef 1859-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | sp: Charlotte KITCHENER (b.c1779-Stevenage,Hertfordshire m.11 Oct 1800 d.by 1881) | |-3. Mary Ann ANSELL (b.1801-Stevenage,Herts.) | | sp: James PLUMM (a.10 Jun 1798-Great Munden,Herts. m.24 Dec 1821) | | |-4. James PLUM (a.29 Dec 1822-Stevenage,Herts) | | | sp: Mary | | |-4. Sarah PLUM (a.16 Oct 1825-Stevenage,Herts d.Jan 1912) | | | sp: John ODELL (a.23 Dec 1827-Shephall,Herts. m.12 Jul 1851 d.Dec 1901) | | |-4. John PLUM (a.12 Oct 1828-Stevenage,Herts) | | |-4. Mary PLUM (b.Abt 1832-Stevenage,Herts) | | |-4. Elizabeth PLUM (b.Abt 1836-Stevenage,Herts) | | |-4. Anne PLUM (a.6 May 1838-Stevenage,Herts) | | +-4. Agnes PLUM (b.Abt 1842-Stevenage,Herts) | |-3. James ANSELL (a.28 Oct 1804-Stevenage,Herts) | |-3. Edward ANSELL (a.13 Jan 1811-Stevenage,Herts) | |-3. John ANSELL (a.24 Jul 1808-Stevenage,Herts) | |-3. James ANSELL (b.1804-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | |-3. John ANSELL (b.1808-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) | +-3. Edward ANSELL (b.1811-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) +-2. Joseph ANSELL (b.1774-Stevenage,Hertfordshire d.1830-Stevenage,Hertfordshire age 55) sp: UNKNOWN sp: Emma UNKNOWN (b.c1779-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. James ANSELL (b.1798-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. Emma ANSELL (b.1800-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. Ann ANSELL (b.1803-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. James ANSELL (b.1805-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. Elizabeth Tod ANSELL (b.1807-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. Isaac ANSELL (b.1809-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. Jonathan ANSELL (b.1811-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. Jane ANSELL (b.1813-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. Susan ANSELL (b.1815-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) |-3. Agnes ANSELL (b.1819-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) +-3. Mary ANSELL (b.1822-Stevenage,Hertfordshire) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Multiple Parents ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Page" <bigbear@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, BARKER, BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD >I have Ansells in London circa 1830 as cab drivers - did any of yours make > thier way to London? > cheers > Peter

Hello Peter, I cannot say if any ANSELL's became Cab Drivers in London, there are lots of them all over Hertfordshire. If you can get a record of one of your ANSELL's in the 1851 Census and locate their birthplace then you will have the answer. There are a lot of Census CD's out there now for 1851 as well as a film which the latter are copied from. the relevant County records office will have it or a trip to the Mormon Church will provide it for you. Or, search the internet. All my ANSELL's are ag Labs and there were no cabs in Herts. Herts was a fairly impoverished county in the past from my experience. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Page" <bigbear@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, BARKER, BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD >I have Ansells in London circa 1830 as cab drivers - did any of yours make > thier way to London? > cheers > Peter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "whitr" <corineous@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:55 AM > Subject: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, > BARKER, > BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD > > >> After sorting out one marriage that had given me many problems I have >> managed to generate a new list of NAME INTERESTS. >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Has anyone any of these SURNAMES in the below PLACES or places nearby. >> ============================================================ >> >> ALLEN; >> Stevenage Before 1850 >> >> ANSELL / ANCELL; >> Stevenage Before 1800 >> >> BARKER; >> Braughing Before 1825 >> >> BUNCH; >> Braughing Before 1800 >> >> DELLOW; >> Braughing Before 1700 >> >> PIGOTT; >> Braughing Before 1750 >> >> PINNOCK; Stevenage >> Before 1770 >> >> PLUMB / PLUMM; >> Stevenage, Gt Munden, Braughing Before 1850 >> >> WOOD; >> Braughing Circa 1700 >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Hertfordshire FHS: >> http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.1 - Release Date: 23/03/05 >> >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

on 25/3/05 8:42 pm, GW5438@aol.com at GW5438@aol.com wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I have just got into some more of my CHALKLEY, TOOLEY and EDWARDS rellies > who appear to have hung out in the mid to late 1800s on the Herts./Beds. > borders at such as Aston, Hitchin, Stevenage, Leighton Buzzard, Luton, Barton > in > the Clay, Holwell, etc., and would be pleased to 'hear' from anyone with > connected interests. > > Yours, etc. > > Geoffrey Woollard in Cambridgeshire. > Hello Geoffrey, I just thought I'd let you know that I'm still on the Herts List. I haven't had time to go much further with my Chalkleys of Aston lately, but would be interested to hear about your new information about the family Regards, Dot in Salisbury, Wilts

Hi Ann Found these in 1851 census: William Gailer head md. 45 Jour.Wheelwright b.Roydon, Essez Mary wife 44 b.Aston, Herts Wiliam son Unm 22 Jour.Wheelwright b.Hertford,Herts Matilda dau " 18 " Eliza dau " 15 " Emily dau 12 Scholar " Fanny (?) dau 10 " " Henry son 7 " " Living at Porthill, Bengeo. Assume 'Jour" to mean 'Journeyman'. Pretty sure it's Fanny - writing not very clear. Thomas Turner head md. 34 Labourer b.Sawbridgeworth Ann wife 32/33 (hard to see) " William son Unm 14 " Elizabeth dau 12 " Thomas son 10 " Anne dau 8 " John son 5 " Richard son 3 " Susannah dau 1 " Living London Road, Sawbridgeworth I looked right through Sawbridgeworth - there were other Turner families but no others headed by Tom. Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnnSnowdrop@aol.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:40 PM Subject: [Herts] GAYLOR & TURNER 1851 or 1861 census Lookup > Hello Listers > > Can SKS lookup the family of Henry GAYLOR born 1843?, Bengeo, > Hertfordshire > on the 1851 or 1861 census > > His Dads name was William GAYLOR and from Henry's marriage certificate > (11-5-1868, Bengeo) his occupation was a wheelwright. > > Henry married Elizabeth Ann TURNER (b1845?) Sawbridgeworth, her Dad was > Thomas and a malt maker. Any info on Elizabeth's family would be > appreciated. > > Thank you for reading this, any help gratefully received. > > Ann gt gt gt granddaughter of William GAYLOR and Thomas TURNER > > Suffolk > > Visit my Website at _http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk_ > (http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk/) > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Hi Ann This looks like your Gaylors in Bengeo in 1851: 107/1711 Folios 196-225 Page 9 Porthill, Bengeo William Gailer h Mrd 45 Jour.Wheelwright b.Roydon,Essex Mary Gailer wife Mrd 44 b.Aston,Herts William son Unm 22 Jour.Wheelwright b.Hertford, Herts Matilda dau Unm 18 " Eliza dau Unm 15 " Emily dau Unm 12 Scholar " Fanny (?) dau Unm 10 " " Henry son Unm 7 " " Pretty sure that's Fanny but a bit hard to read. Assume 'Jour' indicates 'Journeyman' I'll have a look for the Turners in Sawbridgeworth and get back to you. Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnnSnowdrop@aol.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 9:40 PM Subject: [Herts] GAYLOR & TURNER 1851 or 1861 census Lookup > Hello Listers > > Can SKS lookup the family of Henry GAYLOR born 1843?, Bengeo, > Hertfordshire > on the 1851 or 1861 census > > His Dads name was William GAYLOR and from Henry's marriage certificate > (11-5-1868, Bengeo) his occupation was a wheelwright. > > Henry married Elizabeth Ann TURNER (b1845?) Sawbridgeworth, her Dad was > Thomas and a malt maker. Any info on Elizabeth's family would be > appreciated. > > Thank you for reading this, any help gratefully received. > > Ann gt gt gt granddaughter of William GAYLOR and Thomas TURNER > > Suffolk > > Visit my Website at _http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk_ > (http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk/) > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Thank You Thelma for my new gt gt gt grandmothers. That Elizabeth Turner kept changing her mind about her age in the censuses, she went from being 4 years younger than Henry to 2 years younger then 2 years older but when she got married in 1868 she was 3 years older than Henry. Two grandparents in one go on my tree thats never been heard of before, maybe my luck is changing. Thank you again, need to put this info in a safe place, into several safe places just to make sure. Cheers Ann Suffolk In a message dated 25/03/2005 23:46:14 GMT Standard Time, t.wig@btinternet.com writes: Hi Ann Found these in 1851 census: William Gailer head md. 45 Jour.Wheelwright b.Roydon, Essez Mary wife 44 b.Aston, Herts Wiliam son Unm 22 Jour.Wheelwright b.Hertford,Herts Matilda dau " 18 " Eliza dau " 15 " Emily dau 12 Scholar " Fanny (?) dau 10 " " Henry son 7 " " Living at Porthill, Bengeo. Assume 'Jour" to mean 'Journeyman'. Pretty sure it's Fanny - writing not very clear. Thomas Turner head md. 34 Labourer b.Sawbridgeworth Ann wife 32/33 (hard to see) " William son Unm 14 " Elizabeth dau 12 " Thomas son 10 " Anne dau 8 " John son 5 " Richard son 3 " Susannah dau 1 " Living London Road, Sawbridgeworth I looked right through Sawbridgeworth - there were other Turner families but no others headed by Tom. Thelma Visit my Website at _http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk_ (http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk/)

Hello Listers Can SKS lookup the family of Henry GAYLOR born 1843?, Bengeo, Hertfordshire on the 1851 or 1861 census His Dads name was William GAYLOR and from Henry's marriage certificate (11-5-1868, Bengeo) his occupation was a wheelwright. Henry married Elizabeth Ann TURNER (b1845?) Sawbridgeworth, her Dad was Thomas and a malt maker. Any info on Elizabeth's family would be appreciated. Thank you for reading this, any help gratefully received. Ann gt gt gt granddaughter of William GAYLOR and Thomas TURNER Suffolk Visit my Website at _http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk_ (http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk/)

Dear Listers, I have just got into some more of my CHALKLEY, TOOLEY and EDWARDS rellies who appear to have hung out in the mid to late 1800s on the Herts./Beds. borders at such as Aston, Hitchin, Stevenage, Leighton Buzzard, Luton, Barton in the Clay, Holwell, etc., and would be pleased to 'hear' from anyone with connected interests. Yours, etc. Geoffrey Woollard in Cambridgeshire.

Hi Debbie I have Kingsleys in Sandon, can you tell me which Kingsley family your Elizabeth came from (the one who married William Rudd). My co-researcher and I have Kingsleys going back to Andrew KINGSLEY 1575 in Hitchin. Regards Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: <DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: [Herts] RUDD, FEAST, DAWES AND WEBSTER of Sandon > I've now added a few further names to my RUDD tree thanks to the Hugh > Wallis > batch search site which has enabled me to extract all the RUDD baptisms > and > marriages in Sandon. In case anyone doesn't know about it the URL for the > Hugh Wallis site is: > > _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/_ > (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/) > > I now know that Wiliam RUDD married Ann FEAST on 6th February 1812 in > Sandon. > > Phillip RUDD married Emma WEBSTER on 14th January 1850 in Sandon. > > William RUDD marrried Elizabeth KINGSLEY on 25th October 1837 in Sandon. > > I'd love to hear from anyone who is researching any of these names. > > Best wishes > > Debzbie > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > >

Hi Pattti My Elizabeth Kingsley was born about 1807 in Reed, Hertfordshire. In the 1871 and 1881 censuses she was living in Little Wymondley. Do you have her anywhere in your tree? Do you know the names of her parents? Best wishes Debbie In a message dated 25/03/2005 13:28:15 GMT Standard Time, ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk writes: Hi Debbie I have Kingsleys in Sandon, can you tell me which Kingsley family your Elizabeth came from (the one who married William Rudd). My co-researcher and I have Kingsleys going back to Andrew KINGSLEY 1575 in Hitchin. Regards Patti

Yo, Tezz, Many thanks for your information and suggestions. I shall certainly follow them up. Best wishes, Ceri. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Family History" <genealogy101@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: RE: [Herts] Re: Misadventure in Watford. > Hi > > Watford Central library holds all copies of the Watford Observer from its > conception to date on fiche/film.... unfortunatly its not indexed, so it > would mean trawling through the newspaper for a couple of weeks after the > date of the event.... > > Alternatively, if on the death certificate there is shown a date of the > inquest and who perfomred it then you could try writing to : > > Her Majestys Coroner for the district of West Hertfordshire > Leahoe House > County Hall > Hertford > SG13 8DH > > or you could ring them on 01992 556516/556517 > > I have found them to be very helpful and efficient in the past...and they > may still hold the inquest records for this incident.... > > You might like to know that Westfield Avenue runs directly pararell to the > Radlett Road, and the River Colne is situated in the playing fields across > the Radlett Road from Westfield Avenue. both still exist today, so if you > were to look at a map of Watford, then you will be able to see how close > they are to each other... not far at all for a two year old to wander.... > > Hope that this helps.... > > Kind regards > > Tezz > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

I've now added a few further names to my RUDD tree thanks to the Hugh Wallis batch search site which has enabled me to extract all the RUDD baptisms and marriages in Sandon. In case anyone doesn't know about it the URL for the Hugh Wallis site is: _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/) I now know that Wiliam RUDD married Ann FEAST on 6th February 1812 in Sandon. Phillip RUDD married Emma WEBSTER on 14th January 1850 in Sandon. William RUDD marrried Elizabeth KINGSLEY on 25th October 1837 in Sandon. I'd love to hear from anyone who is researching any of these names. Best wishes Debzbie

Evelyn Many thanks for the 1841 census entry. That is just the confirmation I was looking for and I now have the name of John's mother as well. Best wishes Debbie

Hi Debbie Her are your RUDD family in 1841 Census Sandon, Herts. Red Hill William RUDD 55 Wheelwright Y Ann RUDD 50 Y Sarah RUDD 25 Y Isaac RUDD 20 Wheelwright Y Philip RUDD 19 Wheelwright Y Charlotte RUDD 17 Y John RUDD 14 Wheelwright Y Hephziba RUDD 12 Y Regards Evelyn Whitby (Herts UK)

Well as this is a list and everybody has done what you have done and listed their surname interests, all questions, answers and hints and hopes come to everybody on that list. I have no interest in Butterfield but I read your entry and it looks as though no one else has a connection at the moment. But don't be impatient. I got some information yestrday for a question I had asked in 1999. Lurk a bit. YOur question is there in the list archives and someone will spot it. But after a few weeks you can send it again. And just ....hope! And good luck. Pat ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Hi I( think I am) registered on this rootsweb for the name > of butterfield,so why do I get everyother persons messages > and replies.nothing for butterfield , but all other > surnames that people are chasing. thank you > regards > Josie > Rod & Josie Butterfield > > Phone 08 8555 5431 > Mobile: 0417 820 350 > WEB Page: http://www.butterfield.bigpondhosting.com > EMAIL : rodjosie@bigpond.net.au > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in > mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or > want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in > digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages > or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the > word subscribe or unsubscribe. >

Thank you donald. Best wishes Keith. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Herts] marriage certificate > Try www.1837online.com : it will cost you money, but is well worth while > and you can follow up other leads at the same time. > > Donald Massey > > ----- Original Message ----- >> can a kind soul please help me find a marriage certificate for 1907 >> or 8 for a WILLIAM JOSEPH SMITH to EMILY CHARGE in watford.Thank you. > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm

After sorting out one marriage that had given me many problems I have managed to generate a new list of NAME INTERESTS. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Has anyone any of these SURNAMES in the below PLACES or places nearby. ============================================================ ALLEN; Stevenage Before 1850 ANSELL / ANCELL; Stevenage Before 1800 BARKER; Braughing Before 1825 BUNCH; Braughing Before 1800 DELLOW; Braughing Before 1700 PIGOTT; Braughing Before 1750 PINNOCK; Stevenage Before 1770 PLUMB / PLUMM; Stevenage, Gt Munden, Braughing Before 1850 WOOD; Braughing Circa 1700