Hello Paula, CENSUS CD's available www.mycensuses.com £15 competative other places to look http://www.stepping-stones.co.uk/ http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ http://www.britishdataarchive.com/ http://www.twrco.co.uk/uk2shop-2.htm ebay 2nd hand CD's - nearly new prices. http:// www.ancestry.com Subscription 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 others expected http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl free limited http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ search free http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp 1881 Census Free Ray ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] BYGRAVE family of Wallington > Ray > > Thanks so very much - you are a star!! I even picked up one of the future > spouses from one of the census pages as well!!!! > > Can I ask what the pages come from? If it's a CD of the census then I > might just get it as I have lots of family who wandered backwards and > forwards over the adjoining Cambs/Essex/Herts border villages. > > Thanks again > > Paula

Hi Denise The only bits of info I know about Amelia Watts are from her sons birth certificate and census information and it consists of Amelia Watts born 1820? in Bath, Somerset. She married? Reuben Hills in Bristol? She had Edward Reuben (1840 Bristol), Elizabeth & Sarah who were Christened in Kings Langley, Herts Possible remarriage to a George DRAPER in Kings Langley Sorry not to have more information. Good Hunting Ann Suffolk In a message dated 29/03/2005 22:33:50 GMT Daylight Time, denise.smart@blueyonder.co.uk writes: Ann Do you know who the parents of Amelia Watts were - I have many watts in the Herts, Bedord, and Middlesex areas, although I do not recognise the name Amelia Denise

Thank you, thank you, thank you This helps me tremendously especially finding Hilary who was transcribed later as Herbert - something that confused me immensely!!! Paula

Hi Paula Found these in the 1851 census for Wallington, Folios 194-205 Page 6 John Bygrave head 43 Mrd. Farm Lab. b.Wallington Maria wife 39 b.Sandon James son 18? Unm Farm Lab b.Wallington George son 16 " " " Martha dau 15 Scholar " Elizabeth Carter niece 26 Unm. Needlewoman b.Wallington Mary Bygrave dau 12 Scholar " Page 9 Mary Bygrave head 50 widow Farmer 35 acres, employing 3?men, 1 boy b.Wallington Sarah " dau 13 b.Wallington William Bygrave nephew Unm. 26 Farm Servant b.Wallington George Searle visitor Mrd. 27 Tailor b.Gamlingay, Cambs Mary Barber visitor Unm. 19 Servant b.Weston, Herts Page 11 Frederick Bygrave head mrd. 34 Farm Lab. b.Rushden, Herts Mary wife 31 b.Gamlingay, Cambs Hilary son 2 b.Wallington Joseph Mole lodger Unm. 22 b.Kelshall (?) Herts Hope that helps Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Patterson" <prawm@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: [HRT] BYGRAVE family of Wallington > Has anyone got access to the 1841 or 1851 census entries for Wallington? > > My BYGRAVEs came from Wallington but I'm finding it hard to piece the > various families together - particularly as they seem to have been > non-conformists so the parish records aren't much help to me. > > I'd dearly love the census entries from either of these 2 years to try to > sort the jigsaw out. > > Many thanks > > Paula > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Hello Paula, There are three separate families of BYGRAVE in the 1851 census of Wallington: HO 107/1701, folio 200, page 6 Schedule 20 Wallington John BYGRAVE Head Mar 43 Farm Labourer Herts - Wallington Maria do Wife Mar 39 do Sandon James do Son U 18 Farm Labourer do Wallington George do Son U 14 do do do do Martha do Daur U 15 Scholar do do Elizabeth CARTER Neice U 26 Wash Woman do do Mary BYGRAVE Daur U 12 Scholar do do Folio 201, page 9 Schedule 30 Wallington Mary BYGRAVE Head Widow 50 Farmer of 35 acres employing 1 boy, 2 men Herts - Wallington Sarah do Daughter U 13 Scholar do do William do Nephew U 26 Farm Servant do do George SEARLE Visitor Mar 27 Tailor Cambs - Gamlingay Mary BARBER do U 19 Servant Herts - Weston Folio 202, page 11 Schedule 38 Wallington Frederick BYGRAVE Head Mar 24 Farm Labourer Herts - Rushden Mary do Wife Mar 31 Cambs - Gamlingay Hilary do Son 2 Herts - Wallington Joseph MORE? Lodger U 22 do Kelshall. Hope they help. Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Patterson" <prawm@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: [HRT] BYGRAVE family of Wallington > Has anyone got access to the 1841 or 1851 census entries for Wallington? > > My BYGRAVEs came from Wallington but I'm finding it hard to piece the > various families together - particularly as they seem to have been > non-conformists so the parish records aren't much help to me. > > I'd dearly love the census entries from either of these 2 years to try to > sort the jigsaw out. > > Many thanks > > Paula > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. >

Hi List I thought now that I have more than just one name I would post the family and their partners just in case someone out there recognises a name and can help me further. Last one. 1 THOMAS BAYLES was born 1813. He married SARAH DAYTON?? 23 February 1834 in Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. She was born 1811. Children MARY BAYLES, b. 1834, Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. SARAH BAYLES, b. 1837, Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. THOMAS BAYLES, b. 1839, Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. BETSY BAYLES, b. 1844, Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. WILLIAM BAYLES, b. 1846, Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. JOHN BAYLES, b. 1849, Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. MARTHA BAYLES, b. 1851, Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. 2 BETSY2 BAYLES was born 1844 in Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. She married EDWARD REUBEN HILLS 8 March 1868 in Chelsea, London, son of REUBEN HILLS and AMELIA WATTS. He was born 26 November 1840 in West Street, Clifton, Bristol, Gloustershire, and died June 1892 in St Giles, London. A query here Edward Reuben HILLS sisters were baptised in Kings Langley HILLS, Elizabeth Chr 1847 Engl Hert KinLan HILLS, Sarah Chr 1847 Engl Hert KinLan Father: Reuben HILLS Mother:Amelia WATTS Thank you for reading this Any help would be appreciated. Ann Suffolk

Hi List I thought now that I have more than just one name I would post the family and their partners just in case someone out there recognises a name and can help me further. THOMAS TURNER was born 1815 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire. He married ANN. She was born 1818 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire. Occupation: 1868, Malt Maker Children WILLIAM3 TURNER, b. 1837, Sawbridgeworth, ELIZABETH ANN TURNER, b. 1839, Sawbridgeworth, THOMAS TURNER, b. 1841, Sawbridgeworth, ANNE TURNER, b. 1843, Sawbridgeworth, JOHN TURNER, b. 1846, Sawbridgeworth, RICHARD TURNER, b. 1848, Sawbridgeworth, SUSANNAH TURNER, b. 1849, Sawbridgeworth, SAMUEL TURNER, b. 1852, Sawbridgeworth, FRANK TURNER, b. 1859, Sawbridgeworth, CLARA TURNER, b. 1861, Sawbridgeworth, MARTHA TURNER, b. 1863, Sawbridgeworth, Generation No. 2 ELIZABETH ANN TURNER was born 1839 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire. She married HENRY GAYLOR 11 May 1868 in Bengeo, Hertfordshire, son of WILLIAM GAYLOR and MARY MARDELL. He was born 1843 in Bengeo, Hertfordshire. Thank you for reading this Ann Suffolk Visit my Website at _http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk_ (http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk/)

The following names appear in the will (proved 1854) of Ann Smith Goodison of Bushey. They may be of interest ? Charles Thomas WAGSTAFF executor Elizabeth WHEELER servant Caroline MANNINGS servant (I think) Richard PUGH the younger gentleman Maria Hardy PUGH his wife William HOWELL solicitor William RYDER clerk to Mr Pugh Would Aylesbury be very far from Bushey ? Several people there also feature in her will. Patricia

Hi List I thought now that I have more than just one name I would post the family and their partners just in case someone out there recognises a name and can help me further. WILLIAM GAYLOR was born 1806. He married MARY ANN MARDELL?? 3 January 1828 in St Andrews, Hertford, Hertfordshire, She was born 1806 in Aston, Hertfordshire. WILLIAM GAYLOR: Occupation: 1868, Wheelwright Children WILLIAM THOMAS2 GAYLOR, b. 1828, Hertford who married ANN SPIERS 23 August 1852 in Bengeo, Hertfordshire. She was born 1825 in Thornborough??, Buckinghamshire. MARY REBECCA GAYLOR, b. 1830, Hertford. MATILDA MARIA GAYLOR, b. 1832, Hertford. She married THOMAS RAYMENT 25 December 1869 in Bengeo, Hertfordshire, son of GEORGE RAYMENT. ELIZA SUSANNAH GAYLOR, b. 1835, Hertford EMILY HENRIETTA GAYLOR, b. 1838, Hertford m. JOHN RAYMENT, 5 April 1870,Bengeo, Hertfordshire. FANNY GAYLOR, b. 1841, Bengeo HENRY GAYLOR, b. 1843, Bengeo married ELIZABETH ANN TURNER 11 May 1868 in Bengeo, Hertfordshire, daughter of THOMAS TURNER and ANN ??. She was born 1839 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire. Thank you for reading this Ann Suffolk Visit my Website at _http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk_ (http://snowdropsgarden.co.uk/)

Has anyone got access to the 1841 or 1851 census entries for Wallington? My BYGRAVEs came from Wallington but I'm finding it hard to piece the various families together - particularly as they seem to have been non-conformists so the parish records aren't much help to me. I'd dearly love the census entries from either of these 2 years to try to sort the jigsaw out. Many thanks Paula

Bushey (Herts) to Aylesbury (Bucks) is about 26 miles, according to "Autoroute", and the route involved has been a significant one for many years. Alan Fincher (about half way along that route!). Patricia Frykberg <patfryk@clear.net.nz> wrote: The following names appear in the will (proved 1854) of Ann Smith Goodison of Bushey. They may be of interest ? Charles Thomas WAGSTAFF executor Elizabeth WHEELER servant Caroline MANNINGS servant (I think) Richard PUGH the younger gentleman Maria Hardy PUGH his wife William HOWELL solicitor William RYDER clerk to Mr Pugh Would Aylesbury be very far from Bushey ? Several people there also feature in her will. Patricia ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Mal I've been living in Harpenden for 50 years, and am still here, but know of no orphanage in Manland Avenue. There was for many years a National Childrens Home and orphanage in Ambrose Lane and the buildings are still there, but the buildings and land are now used by a religous group. If you have any other info or anything specific I can help you with let me know. David

yes Ancell/ Ansell is a link,but from what area I am not sure. I am linked to the butterfields from Hertfordshire and we have a lady by the name of Mary Ancell who married a John butterfield back in the 1600's.do you have any links with that one,or have any details on that Ancell family,regards Josie ----- Original Message ----- From: "whitr" <corineous@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:25 AM Subject: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, BARKER, BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD > After sorting out one marriage that had given me many problems I have > managed to generate a new list of NAME INTERESTS. > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Has anyone any of these SURNAMES in the below PLACES or places nearby. > ============================================================ > > ALLEN; > Stevenage Before 1850 > > ANSELL / ANCELL; > Stevenage Before 1800 > > BARKER; > Braughing Before 1825 > > BUNCH; > Braughing Before 1800 > > DELLOW; > Braughing Before 1700 > > PIGOTT; > Braughing Before 1750 > > PINNOCK; Stevenage > Before 1770 > > PLUMB / PLUMM; > Stevenage, Gt Munden, Braughing Before 1850 > > WOOD; > Braughing Circa 1700 > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >

Hi Peter In 1871 William, Elizabeth and Leonard are living in Chelsea, with there Butler, Cook and Housemaid. In 1891 William is widowed and living with Leonard and his sister Jane in Albury, Herts. If it helps to find them in 1881 and 1901 census William was born in Tenterden, Kent Leonard was born Kensington, Middlesex and Elizabeth was born in Leek, Staffordshire. Images sent off list regards Evelyn (Herts UK) > Hi All, > I am hoping to hear from those people who have access to census details > for Bishop Stortford and who may be able to assist me to locate the > following people: > > Census 1881: > > William Stephen Shoobridge & his wife, Elizabeth (aged approx. 55 and 65) > and their son, Leonard aged approx 22. > > Census 1901: > > William Stephen Shoobridge, aged approx. 75 and his son, Leonard aged > approx 42. > > I thank anyone who is able to assist > Peter, Melbourne, Australia > > >

Hello, Do you mean, John BUTTERFIELD Christened 1 NOV 1640 son of George BUTTERFIELD & Joane HURST Who Married: 5 OCT 1665 in Lilley Hertfordshire to Mary Ancell they had a son John Christened 12 DEC 1666 at Lilley Hertfordshire. and may be others unknown. I have got back to a John Ancell in Watton at Stone born 1737, but have not yet persued it further. They all live in the same area, The only way ahead is to look at Parish Registers also PPC and Deanery Wills. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Josie" <rodjosie@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:52 AM Subject: [HRT] Re: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, BARKER, BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD > yes Ancell/ Ansell is a link,but from what area I am not sure. > I am linked to the butterfields from Hertfordshire and we have a lady by > the name of Mary Ancell who married a John butterfield back in the > 1600's.do you have any links with that one,or have any details on that > Ancell family,regards Josie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "whitr" <corineous@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:25 AM > Subject: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, > BARKER, BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD > > >> After sorting out one marriage that had given me many problems I have >> managed to generate a new list of NAME INTERESTS. >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> Has anyone any of these SURNAMES in the below PLACES or places nearby. >> ============================================================ >> >> ALLEN; >> Stevenage Before 1850 >> >> ANSELL / ANCELL; >> Stevenage Before 1800 >> >> BARKER; >> Braughing Before 1825 >> >> BUNCH; >> Braughing Before 1800 >> >> DELLOW; >> Braughing Before 1700 >> >> PIGOTT; >> Braughing Before 1750 >> >> PINNOCK; Stevenage >> Before 1770 >> >> PLUMB / PLUMM; >> Stevenage, Gt Munden, Braughing Before 1850 >> >> WOOD; >> Braughing Circa 1700 >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Hertfordshire FHS: >> http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. >

I have a Mary BUTTERFIELD whose parents were Thomas and Mary (nee ??) who was born in Wallington in 1747. Thomas was born about 1721 and Mary about 1725 Mary BUTTERFIELD married a Joseph HEAD in October of 1769 in Gt. Munden Judy BC Canada ----Original Message Follows---- From: "whitr" <corineous@btinternet.com> Reply-To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] Re: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, BARKER, BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:15:43 +0100 Hello, Do you mean, John BUTTERFIELD Christened 1 NOV 1640 son of George BUTTERFIELD & Joane HURST Who Married: 5 OCT 1665 in Lilley Hertfordshire to Mary Ancell they had a son John Christened 12 DEC 1666 at Lilley Hertfordshire. and may be others unknown. I have got back to a John Ancell in Watton at Stone born 1737, but have not yet persued it further. They all live in the same area, The only way ahead is to look at Parish Registers also PPC and Deanery Wills. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Josie" <rodjosie@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:52 AM Subject: [HRT] Re: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, BARKER, BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD >yes Ancell/ Ansell is a link,but from what area I am not sure. >I am linked to the butterfields from Hertfordshire and we have a lady by >the name of Mary Ancell who married a John butterfield back in the >1600's.do you have any links with that one,or have any details on that >Ancell family,regards Josie >----- Original Message ----- From: "whitr" <corineous@btinternet.com> >To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:25 AM >Subject: [Herts] New Name interests in Hertfordshire; ALLEN, ANSELL, >BARKER, BUNCH, DELLOW, PIGOTT, PINNOCK, PLUM & WOOD > > >>After sorting out one marriage that had given me many problems I have >>managed to generate a new list of NAME INTERESTS. >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >>Has anyone any of these SURNAMES in the below PLACES or places nearby. >>============================================================ >> >>ALLEN; >>Stevenage Before 1850 >> >>ANSELL / ANCELL; >>Stevenage Before 1800 >> >>BARKER; >>Braughing Before 1825 >> >>BUNCH; >>Braughing Before 1800 >> >>DELLOW; >>Braughing Before 1700 >> >>PIGOTT; >>Braughing Before 1750 >> >>PINNOCK; Stevenage >>Before 1770 >> >>PLUMB / PLUMM; >>Stevenage, Gt Munden, Braughing Before 1850 >> >>WOOD; >>Braughing Circa 1700 >> >>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>Hertfordshire FHS: >>http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >> > > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >To POST a message to this list use the address: >eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com >2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. >receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. >receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) >In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe >or unsubscribe. > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== Hertfordshire FHS: http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm

Oh thank you Thelma. That's her. You must have thought me very ungrateful not replying to that before. Thanks goodness my email is on again. I felt so isolated! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelma Wigley" <t.wig@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 28 March 2005 09:46 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] 1841/51/61 Census Returns > Hi Patricia > > Here it is again: > > The family living at Nascott Cottage in 1851: > Charles Francis Normbirt Head Mrd 35 Land Agent/Surveyor/Auctioneer b. > Mddx, London > Sophia wife 27 > b.Watford > Kate dau 4 " > > Clara dau 3 " > Susannah Mawes servant Unm 21 b.Totsworth (?) Oxon > Thomas Gowers servant Unm 20 b.Stebbing, Essex > > Think this is your Anne > > Anne S.Goddison head Unm 56 Annuitant b.London > Caroline Hemmin visitor Unm 47 b.Tottingham (?Tottenham) Mddx > Elizabeth Wheeler servant Unm 59 b.Watford > > > No road - just Bushey > > Hope that helps > > Thelma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Frykberg" <patfryk@clear.net.nz> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:42 AM > Subject: [HRT] 1841/51/61 Census Returns > > > >I sent this message some time ago and then had a huge computer crash and > >was > > off line for some two weeks. I dont know if anyone replied. If so my > > apologies. I still need to have the addresses of these two women in 1841 > > and > > 1851 and would be delighted to have any information. > > Many thanks > > Patricia > > > > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, 11 March 2005 11:40 AM > > Subject: [Herts] Fw: 1841/51/61 Census Returns > > > > > >> > >> > >> Dear listers I am new to this list and have discovered I have two rellies > > in Herts. > >> Does anyone have access to these census returns? If so.... > >> Would you please check for > >> Belinda Sarah GOODISON Nascot Cottage Watford and > >> Ann Smith GOODISON Bushey Watford? > >> My undying thanks > >> Patricia > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> Hertfordshire FHS: > >> http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > >

Only Leonard in BS in 1901 of age 40 - 44 is Leonard Bell; are you sure about Bishops Stortford? only about a dozen Leonards (surname starting "SH") of that age in the whole country. You can look for yourself on the PRO Census site by using wildcards such as SH* for all words beginning SH. You can't do wildcards on LDS but you can look for all Leornards of the right age or what I did, all Elizabeths the right age in Hertfordshire. There is only a few hundred.... Best of luck Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ryan" <possum1@hotkey.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:42 AM Subject: [HRT] SHOOBRIDGE > Hi All, > I am hoping to hear from those people who have access to census details > for Bishop Stortford and who may be able to assist me to locate the > following people: > > Census 1881: > > William Stephen Shoobridge & his wife, Elizabeth (aged approx. 55 and 65) > and their son, Leonard aged approx 22. > > Census 1901: > > William Stephen Shoobridge, aged approx. 75 and his son, Leonard aged > approx 42. > > I thank anyone who is able to assist > Peter, Melbourne, Australia > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Try Stallabrass on the LDS 1881 Census and you get William and Elizabeth and their family includes "Stockbridge Stallabrass" aged 22... William is 70 years old but Elizabeth is 65 A name like Shoobridge is screaming out for someone to mistranscribe it. Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ryan" <possum1@hotkey.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:42 AM Subject: [HRT] SHOOBRIDGE > Hi All, > I am hoping to hear from those people who have access to census details > for Bishop Stortford and who may be able to assist me to locate the > following people: > > Census 1881: > > William Stephen Shoobridge & his wife, Elizabeth (aged approx. 55 and 65) > and their son, Leonard aged approx 22. > > Census 1901: > > William Stephen Shoobridge, aged approx. 75 and his son, Leonard aged > approx 42. > > I thank anyone who is able to assist > Peter, Melbourne, Australia > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Hi Though I do not know the boundary details at that time, I do know that there is a road called Hamper Mill Lane, which runs on the South side of the River Colne, and the Grand Union Canal, from Bushey Arches (where it is called Eastbury Rd) towards Moor park. The River tends to be the natural boundary in the area, and generally Cashio (now Cassio) is on the north side of the valley. As such it may well be in either Bushey or Moor Park area. I live in Croxley Green, which is north of the River, but to the West of Cassiobridge. Incidentally, my brother went to school with a HESTER from that part, and he was the last person to drown in Common Moor Lock on the Grand Union Canal at Croxley, c 1965. Probably coincidence, but who knows?! Regards Phil HOW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Simpson" <RayChris@care4free.net> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: HESTER-HAMPER MILLS > Does anyone know if there is a 1851 Census Index covering Hamper Mills > which is in the Cashio District of Watford. I am looking for the Hester > family who were here in 1841. Many thanks > > Ray Simpson > raychris@care4free.net >