Hi Keith, I think I may have found Elizabeth for you: RG12/1142, folio 47, page 3, Ecclesiastical Parish St Mary, Town Wendover, Bucks Schedule 17, Wendover Lodge John W MARKHAM Head M 38 Farmer Derbyshire Bretby Mary do Wife M 37 Bucks Mentmore Jack S do Son S 3 Bucks Wendover Matthew COX Nephew S 23 Assistant - Farmers nephew do Mentmore Elizabeth SMITH Serv M 30 Domestic Servant Cook Herts Tring Harriet BONNICK Serv S 22 do do Housemaid Northampton However, I can find neither William nor Joseph on Ancestry 1891 census no matter how I search for them and given that Elizabeth (if this is the correct one) says she is married, William should certainly be there. I also went back on to the 1871 census to check William's birthplace and it is definitely given as Marsworth there. I have also looked on the 1901 and could not find William or Joseph. Sorry not to have been more help. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith hammond" <ficus@euroweb.net.mt> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: [HRT] 1891 census please ? > Hi, > can anyone please help with an 1891 census for this family ? i am > posting them in 1881.Thank you. > > Keith in Malta. > Willm. SMITH Head M Male 20 Marsworth, Buckingham, England > Lab (G) > Elizabeth SMITH Wife M Female 20 Tring, Hertford, England > Joseph SMITH Son Male 6 m Tring, Hertford, England > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Source Information: > Dwelling Model Row > Census Place Buckland, Buckingham, England > Family History Library Film 1341357 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 1474 / 57 > Page Number 4 > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Hi, can anyone please help with an 1891 census for this family ? i am posting them in 1881.Thank you. Keith in Malta. Willm. SMITH Head M Male 20 Marsworth, Buckingham, England Lab (G) Elizabeth SMITH Wife M Female 20 Tring, Hertford, England Joseph SMITH Son Male 6 m Tring, Hertford, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Model Row Census Place Buckland, Buckingham, England Family History Library Film 1341357 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1474 / 57 Page Number 4

Keith, (For info: You have posted to a Herts list, I think, but Buckland, where they are in 1881, is actually across the borders in Bucks...) I have had a quick look, but am struggling to find them as a family in 1891, (perhaps someone else will spot what I have failed to?). I can see an Elizabeth Smith, (a 30 year old "Domestic Servant Cook", and born in Tring), at Wendover Lodge, Wendover, Bucks. The household is that of John W Markham, a 38 year old farmer born in Derbyshire, his wife, son and nephew being at the same address. Curiously this Elizabeth Smith shows as married, (as opposed to widowed), but there are no other Smiths at this address, just another servant, (born in Northampton). Wendover is only about 3 miles from Buckland, by the way..... I can't find any other close match for Elizabeth, nor any obvious match for William or Joseph in 1891. Equally I can't see any burial in Buckland itself that might explain William or Joseph having dissapeared between 1881 and 1891..... Alan Fincher (Descended from a William Smith of Buckland, though mine was actually born there [in 1855], and married to Ann, not Elizabeth) keith hammond <ficus@euroweb.net.mt> wrote: Hi, can anyone please help with an 1891 census for this family ? i am posting them in 1881.Thank you. Keith in Malta. Willm. SMITH Head M Male 20 Marsworth, Buckingham, England Lab (G) Elizabeth SMITH Wife M Female 20 Tring, Hertford, England Joseph SMITH Son Male 6 m Tring, Hertford, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Model Row Census Place Buckland, Buckingham, England Family History Library Film 1341357 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1474 / 57 Page Number 4 ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

I am re-submitting this email with a different subject line in the hope that more people will read it and solve my Hemel Hempstead queries!! John Jolly of Gadebridge Farm died in 1875. Would he have owned the farm? I know that it is no longer there but was it a large farm and where could I get any info/pictures about it? Same with Durrants Farm in Northchurch where one of his sons lived. Also, does anyone remember it being called Jolly Farm? I have found the Sear family at various addresses in Hemel Hempstead (as well as Picotts End, Two Waters, Waters End) and I wondered if any of these houses still exist! 1851: 130 Chapel St 1861: 76 Queen St 187 Marlowes 1871: 165 Marlowes Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give. Barbara

Exciting news! My g grandmother was Ann Jane Sear b 1850 in HH who married Francis Jolly. She was second of 5 children - parents William Sear carpenter b1822/3 in HH and Mary Ann Cook b 1821, (father John Cook, wheelwright). William was oldest of 4 children. Parents William Seear, carpenter, b1791/6 in Berkhampstead or Frithsden and Sophia b 1796 in Great Gaddesdon. Hope we match up somewhere! Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "angela sears" <angelasears@paradise.net.nz> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] JOLLY, SEAR > My family is Sears/Sear of HemelHempstead and I have much on them. The > spelling varied in the same generation...even two brothers were Sear and > Sears! Send more detail of your interest. > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

In a message dated 4/10/2005 2:33:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, bmls19130@blueyonder.co.uk writes: I have found the Sear family at various addresses in Hemel Hempstead (as well as Picotts End, Two Waters, Waters End) and I wondered if any of these houses still exist! 1851: 130 Chapel St --------------------------------- Barbara, Nice coincidence ... my GEORGE ancestors lived at 127 Chapel St in 1851. Here is the family in 1851: 127 Chapel St - Alfred 18, Emma 20, George 13, Henry 9, John 41 (John at age 41 was a widower ... his wife, Jane, died prev to census) Cannot help with your question ... mine is about son of the above: "Independent Chapel" of Hemel Hempstead where Alfred GEORGE married Elizabeth JEFFS September 21, 1862 Anyone know something about this Chapel? Al Rose North Carolina

Is anyone else having trouble accessing this free trial site? ----- Original Message ----- From: "whitr" <corineous@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: [HRT] Times Digital index; freeaccess > Dear all, > [This I received through the Oxford Mailing List] If anyone is interested. > > "If you go to the Thompson Gale site at: http://www.gale.com during > National Library Week (April 10th to April 16th) they are offering free, > unlimited access to 30 databases including the Times Digital Archive. > > For a list of all 30 freebies go to the site and click on the National > Library Week banner"..................................... > > Ray > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

My family is Sears/Sear of HemelHempstead and I have much on them. The spelling varied in the same generation...even two brothers were Sear and Sears! Send more detail of your interest.

Where was this tavern? It is mentioned in the 1881 Census. Ewraysure

Looking for ELIZABETH CLARK born in Bovingdon in about 1780 - 1790, she married a BENJAMIN EDGE, in 1851 Elizabeth can be found in Sarratt a widow. her son thomas now Hedge was a plait dealer employing 56 weavers. Paul Barnsley ________________________________ Block Spam Emails - Click here! <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=1759 7&partner=fastutility>

looking for the birth of PHILIP HEDGE or EDGE in about 1814. He married ANNELOPE CURD on the 21/10/1836 in St. Albans. They had 8 children many christened in Sarratt, but one born in Rickmansworth. Any help with Curd or Hedge (edge) would be great. Paul Barnsley ________________________________ Block Spam Emails - Click here! <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=5219 9&partner=fastutility>

Does anyone know the location of Kings Walden Lodge around 1830, please. My grtx2 grandfather was employed there and he was involved in a settlement dispute. If I read the document correctly the Lodge was in the Parish of Hitchin. ewraysure

Hello Iam new to this list,need some help in identifying a name on a death certificate.Thomas Charles S Dawson died 28 May 1962 Hemel Hempstead,his wife's initials was given as,P C Dawson, it is her name i need.they lived at 31 Bennetts End Rd,would there be a death notice in the Newspaper. Thank you Anita

Hi listers, I have been using the Times Digital Archive free for several years at home. I first came across it at Cambridge library, and at my request they provided me with the URL - all I need to do is add my personal library card number and bingo ... The images are fully searchable, and copies of the newspaper articles can be printed off as required (preferably on a laser printer!). Regards, Bob Researching the CLARKE, BAKER, and GRAY families of Tring. -----Original Message----- From: Jill Jackson [mailto:jilljackson@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 06 April 2005 05:48 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [HRT] Times Digital index; freeaccess Hello Patricia, This is what it states about the Times Digital Archive, I have not tried it my self, so don't know if it is any good. Put 'Times Digital Archive' into Google and it will tell you all about it. Regards, Jill J Sydney Australia The Times Digital Archive, 1785-1985, is Thomson Gale's newest online historical archive, delivering every page as published from 200 years of The Times (London) to your library Pardon my ignorance.....what is the Times Digital Archive? Thanks! Patricia Dominicci@aol.com Virginia Beach, VA USA Researching: SPRIGGINS, SPRIGINGS, SPRIGGINS, SPRINGINGS, etc.... ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== Hertfordshire FHS: http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm The information contained in this e-mail message (and any attachment transmitted herewith) is privileged and confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not an addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact us immediately so that we can correct the error.

Can anybody who maybe researching this name and know of this lady, tell me where her son HARRY HESKINS B. 1917 ( Elsie not married at the time ) was born? He never lived with Elsie but was brought up by the sister of his father......Clara Munns nee Heskins

Hello Patricia, This is what it states about the Times Digital Archive, I have not tried it my self, so don't know if it is any good. Put 'Times Digital Archive' into Google and it will tell you all about it. Regards, Jill J Sydney Australia The Times Digital Archive, 1785-1985, is Thomson Gale's newest online historical archive, delivering every page as published from 200 years of The Times (London) to your library Pardon my ignorance.....what is the Times Digital Archive? Thanks! Patricia Dominicci@aol.com Virginia Beach, VA USA Researching: SPRIGGINS, SPRIGINGS, SPRIGGINS, SPRINGINGS, etc....

Hi Dawn sent this message back in Feb, since then have got relations to Bruce Hedge back to present day, believe Garibaldi died very young. You said in one of your e-mails there was another edge family in Sarratt, did you have any luck with them. Are there any Edge's or Hedge's still in the village, any help would be great if you have the time. Paul Barnsley -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hood [mailto:PaulHood@newmanandbond.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2005 14:50 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Herts] Sarratt Hello Dawn I have just been on to Genes United Web site and came acrossed these names for Sarratt Bruce HEDGE born 1853 Garibaldi HEDGE born 1860 Hamlet HEDGE born 1860 When you have a min is it possible you could check to see if they ever existed, hopefully on 1861 census. Kind regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Dawn Pitts [mailto:dawnpitts@lineone.net] Sent: 03 February 2005 18:30 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Herts] Sarratt Hello Paul, Yes the village of Sarratt certainly does exist - or I'm living in the middle of Cloud Cuckoo Land! We are all fiercely proud of our village - I was born here, family goes back to mid 18th cent, it's a lovely place with one shop, a junior school, a couple of pubs and a lovely village green - and a bus every two hours - and it's just a couple of miles from the M25, well within a day's trip out from Enfield. If you look on a map it is in the hills between Rickmansworth, Watford and Hemel Hempstead. Might see you if you come over! Dawn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 28/01/2005 ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged.

Pardon my ignorance.....what is the Times Digital Archive? Thanks! Patricia Dominicci@aol.com Virginia Beach, VA USA Researching: SPRIGGINS, SPRIGINGS, SPRIGGINS, SPRINGINGS, etc....

Dear all, [This I received through the Oxford Mailing List] If anyone is interested. "If you go to the Thompson Gale site at: http://www.gale.com during National Library Week (April 10th to April 16th) they are offering free, unlimited access to 30 databases including the Times Digital Archive. For a list of all 30 freebies go to the site and click on the National Library Week banner"..................................... Ray

Hello again Judy, Have found your Henry in the 1871 census of Great Amwell. Image sent off list. Hope this helps. Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hey wyre" <heywyre2002@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:34 AM Subject: [HRT] WILBOURN(E), Henry c1846, Ware Herts >I am searching for any information pertaining to Henry WILBOURN that was a >Bargeman on the vessel "Five Sisters" in London, Middlesex at the time of >the 1881 census. The Master of the vessel, Joseph RIDDLE, was my >grgrandfather. > > Judy > BC Canada > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >