Helen Looked on discs found a burial for a Hannah Austin 20th November 1825 aged 56 St Mary the Virgin Rickmansworth Anglican also found a Thomas Austin burial 18th January 1832 aged 62 also St Mary the Virgin Anglican have not found an entry for Francis -------Original Message------- From: Ottypotty@aol.com Date: 04/16/05 09:39:27 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] National / Herts burial index Dear All Wondering if there is a Hertfordshire burial index or if National one covered Herts Looking for Austin/ Austen in Rickmansworth Thomas b 1772 - still alive in 1812 Hannah b 1770 still alive 1812 Francis b 1758 still alive 1774 any help or advise would be appreciated Thanks Helen in lancashire ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

Hi, I am new to the list. I have a morturary broach with the inscription on the reverse side which reads, Rev Maurice Phillips, died 1822 aged 55 years. From the National Archives Wills and Admins 1796 to 1903 I found Rev Maurice Phillips, right dates. The executor was Esther (presumably his wife?). Location Harpenden HRTS. On the National Burial Index 2nd ed there is a Maurice Phillips age 55, died in January 1822 buried in London. Highly likely the same man. I have not made the link from Maurice & Esther to my great grandmother, Hannah Ada Sylvia Phillips who came to Australia in 1850s. Her parents according to her marriage certificate were John Williams and Mary Ann Williams. I have a couple of contenders in Wales for a John and Mary Williams in both 1834 and another in Wales in 1837. The first is the 10 March 1834 in Bedwelty, MOnmouth Eng, John Phillips m Mary Williams. Apart from having the morturary broach, I would not know that a Rev Maurice Phillips was lurking on the family tree. Hannah Ada Sylvia states on her marriage certificate that she was born nr Bristol. My father said that Hannah Ada Sylvia was known as Sylvia, but if this was her last initial it is likely that the 's' is not recorded and there are many Hannahs (no Ada). There is nothing on IGI, PAF, Pallots for marriage of Maurice and Esther, but I could take a guess from the names that they might be Jewish. Can anyone help please?

Hi listers. This is my first time on this site. I'm hoping that there is SKS who lives in Therfield or very close who would be able to visit Therfield Church and view a tablet placed on the south aisle wall commemorating the life of Sackville Turner and his wife Sarah. Below the inscription is the Family Crest. I was hoping that after all this time that there might be still some colour. I would dearly love to know what colours are on the crest. regards Carolyn

I delayed answering in case somebody with accurate knowledge of this parish replied. However, in the absence of knowledge, I would say that the accuracy and detail of entries in parish registers varies according to the minister making them. Some show the birth date, the part of the parish Or another parish) where the parents lived, sometimes the occupation:, even the mother's maiden name others are very brief, and do not give much more than the child's names and the father, some do not even mention the mother, however hard she has laboured to bring the birth about. Very often, by this date, a printed book would be in use, which required both parents' names, the abode, and father's occupation. So the short answer is, that you will not know until you look! Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > According to IGI George Reed was baptised at Standon 28 October 1838. Is > parish record likely to disclose date and/or place of birth and where > family > lived? If yes, who can I approach to search record please? I am > perfectly > happy to pay.

Dear All Wondering if there is a Hertfordshire burial index or if National one covered Herts Looking for Austin/ Austen in Rickmansworth Thomas b 1772 - still alive in 1812 Hannah b 1770 still alive 1812 Francis b 1758 still alive 1774 any help or advise would be appreciated Thanks Helen in lancashire

Hi Janet It is very likely my Philip, Believe he was born in Sarratt, got married in St.Albans, moved out of the Sarratt area then later moved back to Sarratt and can be seen on the 1841 census with his children as Philip EDGE, in about 1850 all the EDGE families in Sarratt changed their names to HEDGE, this happens in about 8 families all at the same time From records it looks like he died abt 1858 as they are still there in 1851, but by 1861 it was just Annelope as a widow, her youngest child being 3. Paul Barnsley -----Original Message----- From: Janet Booth [mailto:janbooth@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 15 April 2005 13:27 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] Hedge Hi Paul, Via Ancestry, I have found a Charles & Maria WAGLAND on the 1871 census of Upton cum Chalvey, Bucks: PRO Ref: RG10/1401, folio 3, page 3 Schedule 16, 2 Arbor Vale Charles WAGLAND Head Mar 27 Paperhanger Middx Pimlico Maria do Wife do 27 Herts Sarratt Eva do Daur Unm 4 Bucks Slough Charles do Son " 3 do do May do Daur " 3 mos do do Could this be your Maria. I looked for a Philip Hedge and there was one born in Sarratt also. Is this likely to be your Philip?? There seem to be quite a number of HEDGEs who were born in Sarratt. Hope this helps. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hood" <PaulHood@newmanandbond.co.uk> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: [HRT] Hedge > Hi All > Can anyone help me with the HEDGE families of St.Albans. I think I have > a Maria HEDGE who either married a Robert SKINNER or a Charles WAGLAND > in 1867. I also have a Philip HEDGE who married an Annelope CURD. Any > help with these names or any other HEDGE's would be great. > Paul > Barnsley > > > ________________________________ > > Block Spam Emails - Click here! > <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=2063 > 9&partner=fastutility> > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement.

Hi Paul, Via Ancestry, I have found a Charles & Maria WAGLAND on the 1871 census of Upton cum Chalvey, Bucks: PRO Ref: RG10/1401, folio 3, page 3 Schedule 16, 2 Arbor Vale Charles WAGLAND Head Mar 27 Paperhanger Middx Pimlico Maria do Wife do 27 Herts Sarratt Eva do Daur Unm 4 Bucks Slough Charles do Son " 3 do do May do Daur " 3 mos do do Could this be your Maria. I looked for a Philip Hedge and there was one born in Sarratt also. Is this likely to be your Philip?? There seem to be quite a number of HEDGEs who were born in Sarratt. Hope this helps. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hood" <PaulHood@newmanandbond.co.uk> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: [HRT] Hedge > Hi All > Can anyone help me with the HEDGE families of St.Albans. I think I have > a Maria HEDGE who either married a Robert SKINNER or a Charles WAGLAND > in 1867. I also have a Philip HEDGE who married an Annelope CURD. Any > help with these names or any other HEDGE's would be great. > Paul > Barnsley > > > ________________________________ > > Block Spam Emails - Click here! > <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=2063 > 9&partner=fastutility> > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >

Hi All Can anyone help me with the HEDGE families of St.Albans. I think I have a Maria HEDGE who either married a Robert SKINNER or a Charles WAGLAND in 1867. I also have a Philip HEDGE who married an Annelope CURD. Any help with these names or any other HEDGE's would be great. Paul Barnsley ________________________________ Block Spam Emails - Click here! <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=2063 9&partner=fastutility>

Many thanks - Just what we wanted to know. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Morse" <geoff_morse@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Quaker Fair Hitchin > Details are on this URL, Anne > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engqfhs/society/Meetings.htm > > Geoff Morse > Hitchin > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Details are on this URL, Anne http://www.rootsweb.com/~engqfhs/society/Meetings.htm Geoff Morse Hitchin

According to IGI George Reed was baptised at Standon 28 October 1838. Is parish record likely to disclose date and/or place of birth and where family lived? If yes, who can I approach to search record please? I am perfectly happy to pay. Norman

Please can somebody tell me at what time and where the Quaker Family History Fair in Hitchin is being held this Saturday? Many thanks Anne

Unsubscribe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Morse" <geoff_morse@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Quaker Fair Hitchin > Details are on this URL, Anne > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engqfhs/society/Meetings.htm > > Geoff Morse > Hitchin > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Still hoping SKS might be able to find William Hills and his son John in 1841. John's place of birth is given as Broxbourne and his age 24 in 1851. In 1871 he's 42/43 (hard to read) and in 1881 he's 50 - born in Hoddesdon on both of these. His marriage certificate shows his father was William Hills. So in 1841 John should be about 12 (or rounded down to 10?) Would really appreciate some help - many thanks. Thelma

Thanks to Paula for explaining legal marriage age. Just an extra if girl is 14 - need parental consent. In my case as both parents had died by then would the next of kin be able to give consent Thanks Helen

Hi all This is a list of names connected with my family of EDGE who changed their name to HEDGE in about 1850, I believe all the names are from Sarratt and the surrounding area. Elizabeth CLIMSON, born abt. 1758 married Benjamin EDGE on 11/11/1776 in Sarratt. Elizabeth CLARK born abt. 1790 in Bovingdon married Benjamin EDGE on 14/16/1807 in Sarratt. Jesse GAZELEY born abt. 1809 married Benjamin EDGE on 05/07/1841 in Sarratt. Samuel GIBBS born abt. 1810 married Elizabeth EDGE on 18/12/1841 in Sarratt. Thomas SMITH born abt 1779 married Elizabeth EDGE on 14/12/1798 in Sarratt. Any help with any of these names would be fantastic. Paul Barnsley ________________________________ Block Spam Emails - Click here! <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=5855 1&partner=fastutility>

Hi Penny, I have found a Joseph Barker, the son of Elizabeth, and his sister Eliza, baptised in 1857, and George, son of Ann Barker was baptised on the same day. Martha Barker, Mary's daughter was also baptised on this day, so I'm fairly sure they're all related! It seems a bit of a coincidence if not. Hopefully the 1861 census will confirm all this. If this is your Joseph, Elizabeth I believe was the granddaughter listed in the 1851 census entry that Thelma kindly posted, and the IGI has a likely baptism for her in 1834 in Ippollitts and she is listed as the daughter of Ann Barker. I've been unable to find her baptism listed yet, but her sisters Frances, Martha and Harriet were all baptised in Ippollitts to Joseph and Sarah Barker. Would these dates fit with your Barkers? Let me know! Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny" <groco1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] 1851/61 Census Look Ups (Hitchin) > Hi Becky, > I have Mary Barker from Hitchin who I am trying to tally up with my family > tree. Her daughter Martha Barker was a witness at one of my ancestors > wedding. His name was Joseph Barker and I am trying to find out if they > were related. Do you have any of these names? Would love to hear from > you if you do. > regards > Penny

Joan Very many thanks. Regards...Lyn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynette Horridge" <lynette.horridge@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:18 PM Subject: [HRT] Sarratt M.I.s Lyn A quick check shows Grave No. 244, No stone, Maria ATKINS 1910 Grave No. 579, No stone, Ephraim George ATKINS 1946 Grave No. 851, No stone, Albert ATKINS 29 July 1982 Grave No. 876, Wife and Mother Andrea Margaret ATKINS "Gib" d. suddenly 3 March 1992 aged 49 years (Ashes) Sorry, no mention of BLUFF. Perhaps someone else on the list may be able to help with this one. Best wishes, Joan > Joan > > A few months ago I saw your message offering to look up M.I.s in Sarratt. I > am interested in the names ATKINS and BLUFF in Sarratt and would be very > grateful if you could check your booklet to see if there are any references > to these two names. > > Many thanks. > Lyn > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 7/04/2005 > >

From 1754 to 1929 girls between 12 and 21 and boys between 14 and 21 could get married with parental consent or a special licence. Over 21s (those of "full age") didn't need either! In 1929 the lower age was raised to 16 for both sexes and in 1969 "full age" was lowered to 18. Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ottypotty@aol.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:14 AM Subject: [HRT] AGE OF MARRIAGE QUERY > Dear All > > I have a Sophia Austin bap 1807 Rickmansworth . Would it be possible to > marry > in 1820 in Berkhamstead to george garnett . She would have been just over > 14 > years old at the time. Is that too young in those days. > > THere is another sophia bap 1803 to same family so assume she died before > the > 1807 was born. Berkhamstead seem to have most bap on IGI and there is not > one born there. I know this is a long shot but firstly is it feasible > > Many thanks Helen in Lancashire > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > encouraged. > >