Hi listers, I am new to the list. My research names are:- Rev Maurice Phillips Esther Phillips living in Harpenden, HRT in 1822 Worboys in Ashwell. Hope someone can assist. Cynthia Australia

Hi Cynthia, Which WORBOYS are you researching in Ashwell and what timescale. I, too, have WORBOYS/WARBOYS in my ancestry living in Ashwell and have parish reg transcripts and census details available. Look forward to hearing from you. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Foley" <pfo55884@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:04 AM Subject: [HRT] Listing research names > Hi listers, I am new to the list. My research names are:- > Rev Maurice Phillips > Esther Phillips living in Harpenden, HRT in 1822 > > Worboys in Ashwell. > Hope someone can assist. > Cynthia Australia > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >

I am looking for a marriage in Herts of a Joshua Aldridge b Braughing and Elizabeth ?. b Stanton Would sks do a look up for me please. I have found them on a 1861 census with their family aged 47 and 46 respectively. Thanks in advance Eunice - Australia

Hi Listers, Have only just this minute found and joined this list. I am looking for anyone who is researching the Surnames HANNELL/HENNELL in Herts. and who possibly originated in Germany then came to UK and settled and went to Herts (not sure where started off in Herts) but ended up in Butcherly Green and at least one (mine) went to Westminster, London. Seemed to be very Poor in 1800's. My John was a Shoemaker who was married to a Mary who died when his Son James b.1813 was 4yrs. old when he moved to London with him. The ending for John was very sad. The name then changed to HENNELL my Maiden name. Any help or ideas please. Best wishes Sandra

For Donald Massey I have some interest in NORRIS in Watford. My greatx3 grandfather Thomas Norris, a journeyman gardener, was married in Great Stanmore in 1795 to a girl from Tring called Sarah Eversley. At the 1841 census he was said to be 67 (thus born in 1774, and not in the same county). At his death three years later his age was given as 72 (thus born in 1772). I have no other evidence as to his year of birth. Nor do I know where he was born. There are several possibilities, including Watford, and I wonder whether your information throws any light on that. The nearest Watford possibility is the child of Thomas Norris and Sarah ( formerly Bates?), baptised Thomas in 1770. I hope to hear from you. Jim Norris Dave Frampton <david@watford.karoo.co.uk> wrote: Donald Are you going to provide me with that information? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Massey" To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:14 PM Subject: NORRIS (was Re: [HRT] Interests) > I have NORRIS interests in Herts, although not in Watford, but in > Wheathampstead, Gt Gaddesden, Widford, Much Hadham, Lt Gaddesden, Marsworth > and over the border in Ivinghoe, Bucks > > However, during research I have picked up some info about Watford Norris's. > > Donald Massey > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >I am reseaching the following names and would appreciate hearing from > >anyone doing the same: > > > > WARRELL Watford > > DEACON Watford > > BROWN and PALLETT Bayford > > HOLT Watford > > NORRIS Watford > > EDWARDS Colney Heath > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== Hertfordshire FHS: http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm

Margaret, I took a lool at the 1891 census and found Edward Kearn and family. Image will be sent off list. Also you didn't mention the 1871 Census, but found Edward, Susannah and first child 10 months old on that one too. Will send off list. Theresa E. Smith Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA -------------- Original message -------------- > Hello just joined this list in the hope of finding out more about one of my > ancestors who strayed into Hertfordshire from HEREFORDSHIRE. > > EDWARD KEARN married SUSANNA SIMMONS in Theydon Bois ...Edward was living in > Cheshunt at the time of marriage.1870 > > 1881 census > > Cheshunt Herts.. > > Edward Susan and 4 children > > 1891 details required if possible > > 1901 census Edward Susan 3 children and a niece form Theydon Bois living in > stretton sugwas Herefordshire ....{ at the Inn where Edward was born] > > Any connections or information gratefully received. > > margaret

Donald Are you going to provide me with that information? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:14 PM Subject: NORRIS (was Re: [HRT] Interests) > I have NORRIS interests in Herts, although not in Watford, but in > Wheathampstead, Gt Gaddesden, Widford, Much Hadham, Lt Gaddesden, Marsworth > and over the border in Ivinghoe, Bucks > > However, during research I have picked up some info about Watford Norris's. > > Donald Massey > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >I am reseaching the following names and would appreciate hearing from > >anyone doing the same: > > > > WARRELL Watford > > DEACON Watford > > BROWN and PALLETT Bayford > > HOLT Watford > > NORRIS Watford > > EDWARDS Colney Heath > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > >

Derek, Found your Henry Robinson in the 1861 census. Image sent off list. Theresa E. Smith -------------- Original message -------------- > Hi again, > > Still looking for Henry ROBINSON born about 1832 in Bishops Stortford. He was in > Bishops Stortford 1871/1881/1891/1901so should be > there in 1851 and 1861, but no-one has found him so far, (for those of you who > like a challenge!). Can help with 1851 census > Berkshire lookups if anyone is interested. > > Derek > Cornwall, UK > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or > unsubscribe. >

Friday, April 29, 2005, 8:15:10 PM Hi, Can someone please help me? I have a quandary concerning a Thomas WESTON of Wheathampstead,married to Eliza nee HUNT. Could some kind person look him up in the 1851 census, and identify their children for me? I have been delving further into my wife's family and have found two men that married two women from a WESTON family,Rose b.1840 & Ellen b.1841. I would like to know whether these women were sisters. Rose had left home prior to the 1861 census, Ellen is at the home of her father in law John Bruton, and Thomas WESTON a widower, is at the home of his parents in law, William & Mary HUNT -- Regards, Tony

Take care!!! The whole of the County of Middlesex (outside of Greater London) has been filed as Berkshire!!! Sandra Linda Staunton wrote: >Passing the good news around. > >Have fun, > >Linda >----- Original Message ----- >From: <kevan@essex1841.com> >To: <ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:40 PM >Subject: [Ess] Ancestry 1861 added > > > > >>Hi all, >> I logged on to Ancestry earlier, and they have added the complete >>1861 census. Just in case you were not aware. >> I am not offering to do lookups, just passing the info on. >> >> Transcriptions are a bit 'naff', but very useful all the same. >>Best >>Kevan >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >To POST a message to this list use the address: > >eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > >2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving >the messages individually or want them individually) or > >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. >receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > >In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > >

Hi Paul Fanny Underwood was my ggg grandmothers sister. Fanny Allen was living with her sister Hannah in 1881 in Acton both widows. in the 1871 census Jesse was living with Hannah in Acton working as her assisant in the Green grocer shop Hannah husband Richard Gee died Dec 1870. I have the census for middlesex 1841 1861 and 1871. Will check my records to see what I can find if you like. In your email your mentioned that you had a photo of Fanny was there any other people the photo. Thanks Lorraine -------Original Message------- From: fh@brazell.net Date: 04/29/05 18:39:47 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family Hello Lorraine and Kristine, Yes, the Jesse ALLEN I am looking at is the son of George ALLEN and Fanny UNDERWOOD, although the evidence that this Jesse is the father of my great grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN is still circumstantial (Edith Emma recorded in 1881 census aged 5 in household of Emma BROWN née ALLEN, possibly an aunt, who was born Watford. Emma's and Jesse's father both George, so perhaps one and the same; Jesse possibly recorded in 1891 census born Watford. In 1891, Edith Emma recorded as a "cousin" in the household of Joseph and Martha ELSE, also born Hertfordshire, so there's another potential HRT link there, but the evidence will take some collecting). But still lots of question marks. For instance, Jesse's father George is a labourer according to Jesse's birth certificate (1853), but a builder according to Jesse's marriage certificate (1874). There is a George the builder of the right age in the 1881 census, albeit married to a Mary, not Fanny; there is also a widowed Fanny of the right age born HRT, Shenley resident in Acton, which fits with an old photo of her (albeit nameless) we have taken at a studio in Acton. Now trying to work out where to go next. Does your Jesse ALLEN have other siblings, or connections to an ELSE family? Emma BROWN née ALLEN was born estimated 1836, before registration started, so I'll be looking for available parish records (maybe Bushey, or, more difficult?, Watford), and may order the 1851 and 1861 census records. As noted in previous message, I've posted everything I know about the family at http://brazell.net/family/allen/ , so I won't go into all the gory details and speculation here. But two bites within 24 hours is pretty good going for a newbie :) Thanks for your interest and best regards, Paul Brazell Berlin, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family > Hi Kristene > Yes I have been in touch with you Fanny Underwood was my ggg grandmother > sister. Have you checked the the site Genes United seems a few Allens from > Hertfordshire besides the ones that I have entered. > Lorraine > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KRISGENE1@aol.com > Date: 04/29/05 14:26:00 > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] Allen Family > > Hi Paul and Lorraine > > I also have a Jesse Allen son of George Allen and Fanny Underwood. I descend > from Georges brother James Berrey Allen. Would love to here from you and > swap info on this Family. This is the first time I have come accross anyone doing > this family. > Hope to hear from you soon. > Regards > Kristene from down under > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford > Hi Paul > I have a Jesse Allen born 1853 in Watford parents George Allen and Fanny > Underwood. Would this be the Jesse that you are looking for. > Lorraine > > -------Original Message------- > > From: fh@brazell.net > Date: 04/29/05 08:09:56 > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford > > Dear Listers, > > I have just joined the Hertfordshire list on the search for ancestors of my > great grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN, born 1875 in Battersea, Surrey. Her > parents were Jesse ALLEN and Mary Ann Eliza LONG. I have reason to believe > that Jesse and a sister, Emma, were born in Watford, and that their father, > George, was a builder at some time in his life. > Before I go ahead and order the 1861 and 1851 census film of Watford to look > for the family, I would love to hear from anybody who recognises the family > and perhaps even has more information about them. > I've posted a summary of what I know about the family at http://brazell > net/family/allen/ , if anybody has the time and inclination to take a look. > Hertfordshire is new territory for me, after hanging around Bucks and Oxon > for the last couple of years. I look forward to getting to know it a little > better. > > Paul Brazell > Berlin, Germany > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

Hi Kristene Yes I have been in touch with you Fanny Underwood was my ggg grandmother sister. Have you checked the the site Genes United seems a few Allens from Hertfordshire besides the ones that I have entered. Lorraine -------Original Message------- From: KRISGENE1@aol.com Date: 04/29/05 14:26:00 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Allen Family Hi Paul and Lorraine I also have a Jesse Allen son of George Allen and Fanny Underwood. I descend from Georges brother James Berrey Allen. Would love to here from you and swap info on this Family. This is the first time I have come accross anyone doing this family. Hope to hear from you soon. Regards Kristene from down under ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== To POST a message to this list use the address: eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe.

Hi Paul I have a Jesse Allen born 1853 in Watford parents George Allen and Fanny Underwood. Would this be the Jesse that you are looking for. Lorraine -------Original Message------- From: fh@brazell.net Date: 04/29/05 08:09:56 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford Dear Listers, I have just joined the Hertfordshire list on the search for ancestors of my great grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN, born 1875 in Battersea, Surrey. Her parents were Jesse ALLEN and Mary Ann Eliza LONG. I have reason to believe that Jesse and a sister, Emma, were born in Watford, and that their father, George, was a builder at some time in his life. Before I go ahead and order the 1861 and 1851 census film of Watford to look for the family, I would love to hear from anybody who recognises the family and perhaps even has more information about them. I've posted a summary of what I know about the family at http://brazell net/family/allen/ , if anybody has the time and inclination to take a look. Hertfordshire is new territory for me, after hanging around Bucks and Oxon for the last couple of years. I look forward to getting to know it a little better. Paul Brazell Berlin, Germany ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== To POST a message to this list use the address: eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe.

Hi Lorraine, Sound like you mght just have enough data to get a positive (or negative) reading on whether we are talking about the same Jesse. I"ll post low resolution copies of some photos on the web page over the weekend and let you know when they're there. If you need a closer look, I can put higher resolution pics in the email. One of the pics is Jesse's mum on her own (dressed in black, very sad, taken in Acton), one is with my great grandmother Edith Emma and her father Jesse ALLEN, and his mother. Would be great if she turns out to be your Fanny. Cheers, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family > Hi Paul > Fanny Underwood was my ggg grandmothers sister. Fanny Allen was living > with her sister Hannah in 1881 in Acton both widows. in the 1871 census Jesse > was living with Hannah in Acton working as her assisant in the Green grocer > shop. Hannah husband Richard Gee died Dec 1870. I have the census for middlesex > 1841 1861 and 1871. Will check my records to see what I can find if you > like. In your email your mentioned that you had a photo of Fanny was > there any other people the photo. > Thanks > Lorraine >

Hello Paul, Here is the family of George & Fanny in the 1861 census of Watford: PRO Ref: RG9/833, folio 56, page 17/18 Schedule 86, Farthing Lane George ALLEN Head M 57 Labourer & Woodman Herts Watford Fanny do Wife M 51 Charwoman do do John do Son U 27 Labourer Farm do do George do Son U 17 do do do Bushey Joseph do Son 15 do do do do Jacob do Son 10 Scholar do do Jessey do Son 8 do do do Fanny A do Daur 5 do do do Hope this helps. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: <fh@brazell.net> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family > Hello Lorraine and Kristine, > > Yes, the Jesse ALLEN I am looking at is the son of George ALLEN and Fanny > UNDERWOOD, although the evidence that this Jesse is the father of my great > grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN is still circumstantial (Edith Emma recorded > in > 1881 census aged 5 in household of Emma BROWN née ALLEN, possibly an aunt, > who was born Watford. Emma's and Jesse's father both George, so perhaps > one > and the same; Jesse possibly recorded in 1891 census born Watford. In > 1891, > Edith Emma recorded as a "cousin" in the household of Joseph and Martha > ELSE, also born Hertfordshire, so there's another potential HRT link > there, > but the evidence will take some collecting). > > But still lots of question marks. For instance, Jesse's father George is > a > labourer according to Jesse's birth certificate (1853), but a builder > according to Jesse's marriage certificate (1874). There is a George the > builder of the right age in the 1881 census, albeit married to a Mary, not > Fanny; there is also a widowed Fanny of the right age born HRT, Shenley > resident in Acton, which fits with an old photo of her (albeit nameless) > we > have taken at a studio in Acton. > > Now trying to work out where to go next. Does your Jesse ALLEN have other > siblings, or connections to an ELSE family? Emma BROWN née ALLEN was born > estimated 1836, before registration started, so I'll be looking for > available parish records (maybe Bushey, or, more difficult?, Watford), and > may order the 1851 and 1861 census records. > > As noted in previous message, I've posted everything I know about the > family > at http://brazell.net/family/allen/ , so I won't go into all the gory > details and speculation here. > > But two bites within 24 hours is pretty good going for a newbie :) > > Thanks for your interest and best regards, > > Paul Brazell > Berlin, Germany > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family > > >> Hi Kristene >> Yes I have been in touch with you Fanny Underwood was my ggg grandmother >> sister. Have you checked the the site Genes United seems a few Allens > from >> Hertfordshire besides the ones that I have entered. >> Lorraine >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: KRISGENE1@aol.com >> Date: 04/29/05 14:26:00 >> To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [HRT] Allen Family >> >> Hi Paul and Lorraine >> >> I also have a Jesse Allen son of George Allen and Fanny Underwood. I > descend >> from Georges brother James Berrey Allen. Would love to here from you and >> swap info on this Family. This is the first time I have come accross > anyone doing >> this family. >> Hope to hear from you soon. >> Regards >> Kristene from down under >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:15 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford > > >> Hi Paul >> I have a Jesse Allen born 1853 in Watford parents George Allen and Fanny >> Underwood. Would this be the Jesse that you are looking for. >> Lorraine >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: fh@brazell.net >> Date: 04/29/05 08:09:56 >> To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> I have just joined the Hertfordshire list on the search for ancestors of > my >> great grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN, born 1875 in Battersea, Surrey. Her >> parents were Jesse ALLEN and Mary Ann Eliza LONG. I have reason to > believe >> that Jesse and a sister, Emma, were born in Watford, and that their > father, >> George, was a builder at some time in his life. >> Before I go ahead and order the 1861 and 1851 census film of Watford to > look >> for the family, I would love to hear from anybody who recognises the > family >> and perhaps even has more information about them. >> I've posted a summary of what I know about the family at http://brazell >> net/family/allen/ , if anybody has the time and inclination to take a > look. >> Hertfordshire is new territory for me, after hanging around Bucks and >> Oxon >> for the last couple of years. I look forward to getting to know it a > little >> better. >> >> Paul Brazell >> Berlin, Germany >> > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Hello Lorraine and Kristine, Yes, the Jesse ALLEN I am looking at is the son of George ALLEN and Fanny UNDERWOOD, although the evidence that this Jesse is the father of my great grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN is still circumstantial (Edith Emma recorded in 1881 census aged 5 in household of Emma BROWN née ALLEN, possibly an aunt, who was born Watford. Emma's and Jesse's father both George, so perhaps one and the same; Jesse possibly recorded in 1891 census born Watford. In 1891, Edith Emma recorded as a "cousin" in the household of Joseph and Martha ELSE, also born Hertfordshire, so there's another potential HRT link there, but the evidence will take some collecting). But still lots of question marks. For instance, Jesse's father George is a labourer according to Jesse's birth certificate (1853), but a builder according to Jesse's marriage certificate (1874). There is a George the builder of the right age in the 1881 census, albeit married to a Mary, not Fanny; there is also a widowed Fanny of the right age born HRT, Shenley resident in Acton, which fits with an old photo of her (albeit nameless) we have taken at a studio in Acton. Now trying to work out where to go next. Does your Jesse ALLEN have other siblings, or connections to an ELSE family? Emma BROWN née ALLEN was born estimated 1836, before registration started, so I'll be looking for available parish records (maybe Bushey, or, more difficult?, Watford), and may order the 1851 and 1861 census records. As noted in previous message, I've posted everything I know about the family at http://brazell.net/family/allen/ , so I won't go into all the gory details and speculation here. But two bites within 24 hours is pretty good going for a newbie :) Thanks for your interest and best regards, Paul Brazell Berlin, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family > Hi Kristene > Yes I have been in touch with you Fanny Underwood was my ggg grandmother > sister. Have you checked the the site Genes United seems a few Allens from > Hertfordshire besides the ones that I have entered. > Lorraine > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KRISGENE1@aol.com > Date: 04/29/05 14:26:00 > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] Allen Family > > Hi Paul and Lorraine > > I also have a Jesse Allen son of George Allen and Fanny Underwood. I descend > from Georges brother James Berrey Allen. Would love to here from you and > swap info on this Family. This is the first time I have come accross anyone doing > this family. > Hope to hear from you soon. > Regards > Kristene from down under > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford > Hi Paul > I have a Jesse Allen born 1853 in Watford parents George Allen and Fanny > Underwood. Would this be the Jesse that you are looking for. > Lorraine > > -------Original Message------- > > From: fh@brazell.net > Date: 04/29/05 08:09:56 > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford > > Dear Listers, > > I have just joined the Hertfordshire list on the search for ancestors of my > great grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN, born 1875 in Battersea, Surrey. Her > parents were Jesse ALLEN and Mary Ann Eliza LONG. I have reason to believe > that Jesse and a sister, Emma, were born in Watford, and that their father, > George, was a builder at some time in his life. > Before I go ahead and order the 1861 and 1851 census film of Watford to look > for the family, I would love to hear from anybody who recognises the family > and perhaps even has more information about them. > I've posted a summary of what I know about the family at http://brazell > net/family/allen/ , if anybody has the time and inclination to take a look. > Hertfordshire is new territory for me, after hanging around Bucks and Oxon > for the last couple of years. I look forward to getting to know it a little > better. > > Paul Brazell > Berlin, Germany >

Sarah, many thanks. This is a good start. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "SarahChaplin" <sarah.chaplin2@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Hurndall, Lake, and Barlow/Appleby help needed, please > Hi Brian, > > according to the IGI John Hurndall married Ann Barlow Appleby on 25 DEC > 1803 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England > > the IGI also shows a birth of an Ann Hurndall -17 OCT 1813 Pentonville, > London, England ,parents given as John Hurndall and Ann Barlow. > > hope this helps, > > best wishes, > > Sarah in Hemel Hempstead > > > > At 07:20 28/04/2005 -0700, you wrote: >>Hello: >> >>First some quick background, and then my questions: >> >>My ancestor John Hurndall was born Great Gaddesdon, Nittleton, >>Hertfordshire, on 22 October 1769. He married an Ann Barlow (or was it >>Appleby?) from Derbyshire around 1803. His parents were Mary/Ann (nee >>Lake) and William Hurndall. >> >>William is buried in Little Gaddeston, Berkhamsted, but I don't exactly >>know when he died, save that it was around 1812. His death had something >>to do with Pentonville in London, even though the prison there wasn't open >>until 1816. Supposedly, he was born in 1743, but I have no way of >>verifying that, nor do I know who his parents were. >> >>An ancestor of Mary or Ann or Mary Ann Lake-Hurndall was the anti-loyalist >>bishop John Lake, who was executed in 1688 during the reign of William & >>Mary, but I have no clue as to how they're connected. >> >>So here are my questions (and if you can answer any of them -- or help me >>know where I can look for answers -- God bless you, because I've been >>totally frustrated to this point): >> >>Was John Hurndall married in Derbyshire or Hertfordshire? How would I find >>out one way or the other? >> >>Who was William Hurndall (he could have been born where he was buried, >>Little Gaddeston, Berkhamsted)? >> >>Where was he born and when? >> >>Who were his parents? >> >>Why might he have died at Pentonville since there was no prison there >>until 1816? >> >>Who were Mary/Ann/Mary Ann Lake's parents? >> >>Where was she born and when (I have a circa 1746 in my records)? >> >>What is the connection between her and the executed Bishop John Lake? >> >>Were the Hurndall and Lake families either prevalent or prominent in this >>area at the time? >> >>If you don't know the answers to these questions, do you know where I >>could look or with whom I could talk? >> >>Regards, >> >>Brian >>Sacramento, California >> >>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >>http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Passing the good news around. Have fun, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <kevan@essex1841.com> To: <ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:40 PM Subject: [Ess] Ancestry 1861 added > Hi all, > I logged on to Ancestry earlier, and they have added the complete > 1861 census. Just in case you were not aware. > I am not offering to do lookups, just passing the info on. > > Transcriptions are a bit 'naff', but very useful all the same. > Best > Kevan > > > >

Hi Paul and Lorraine I also have a Jesse Allen son of George Allen and Fanny Underwood. I descend from Georges brother James Berrey Allen. Would love to here from you and swap info on this Family. This is the first time I have come accross anyone doing this family. Hope to hear from you soon. Regards Kristene from down under

Dear Listers, I have just joined the Hertfordshire list on the search for ancestors of my great grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN, born 1875 in Battersea, Surrey. Her parents were Jesse ALLEN and Mary Ann Eliza LONG. I have reason to believe that Jesse and a sister, Emma, were born in Watford, and that their father, George, was a builder at some time in his life. Before I go ahead and order the 1861 and 1851 census film of Watford to look for the family, I would love to hear from anybody who recognises the family and perhaps even has more information about them. I've posted a summary of what I know about the family at http://brazell.net/family/allen/ , if anybody has the time and inclination to take a look. Hertfordshire is new territory for me, after hanging around Bucks and Oxon for the last couple of years. I look forward to getting to know it a little better. Paul Brazell Berlin, Germany