Hi, can anyone please help ? I am looking for info on an Ebenezer baptist chapel in Tring.Thanks. Keith in Malta.

Have you checked on www.familysearch.com ? IGI seems to be more selective these days, often shedding entries to be found on older versions. Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > > I am looking for the Goodman family of Great Berkhampstead. > > I have checked the IGI and although I found the marriage of Joseph & > Elizabeth Goodman, I can only find one birth record of the children, there > were at least 3 more! > > Does anyone know if there is a CD, of maybe fiche of the BMD, between 1820 > to 1837, especially births.

Hi everyone, I am looking for the Goodman family of Great Berkhampstead. I have checked the IGI and although I found the marriage of Joseph & Elizabeth Goodman, I can only find one birth record of the children, there were at least 3 more! Does anyone know if there is a CD, of maybe fiche of the BMD, between 1820 to 1837, especially births. Lindy

Trying once again to find SKS with this census who would be willing to have a look for William Hills and his son John who was born about 1828/30. John gives his birthplace as Broxbourne in the 1851 but Hoddesdon in later censuses, and gives varying ages. Would really appreciate some help even if they don't appear at all in these towns in 1841. Thanks Thelma

Is there anyone that has a John Aldridge who married a Mary Barley in 1802 in their tree at all, or sks able to verify which John Aldridge this was as I have two born in Braughing, Hertford. One b 1777 to a Joshua and Sarah One b 1774 to a William and Martha. Any help on this would be greatly received Thanks Eunice - Australia

Janet, I took a look on the LDS site and found a THOMAS PEGRAM christened 27 MAY 1838 Great Hormead, Hertford, England Parents are listed as Jas & Anna. On a side note: I'm also tracing the PEGRAM /PAGGRAM / PIGRAM family. My 3X great grandmother is Sophia Pegram, christened 13 May, 1798 in Layston, Hertfordshire; she is the daughter of Thomas Pegram & Sarah Willson. Sophia Pegram married William North. -------------- Original message -------------- > Hi Paula! > Wow, this could be my family! > Does the page you saw say anything else, such as dad's age or occupation, or > any siblings? This family has been my brickwall for ages and ages, it would > be nice to make some headway. > Janet in Canada > > >From: "Paula Patterson" > >Reply-To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > >To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram > >Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 18:42:26 +0100 > > > >Hormead? > > > >There was certainly a Thomas PEGRAM age 12 b Great Hormead, Herts with his > >parents James & Hannah PEGRAM all living in Anstey in Herts in 1851. > >When you look at the writing for Hormead in the 1851 it is easier to > >convince yourself that the 1871 entry says Hormead as well!!! > > > >Paula > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Williams" > > > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:50 PM > >Subject: RE: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram > > > > > >>Hi Janet > >> > >>I couldn't read it either. I also checked the 1861 census and the only > >>one > >>that fitted was born in Essex. > >> > >>On FreeBDM there is a Thomas PEGRAM born Jun 1843 in Ongar wich is in > >>Essex. > >> > >>I wondered if the 1871 is incorrect? > >> > >>Jean > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Janet Hopkins [mailto:janetchopkins@hotmail.com] > >>Sent: 03 May 2005 17:08 > >>To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > >>Subject: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram > >> > >> > >>Hello! > >>I am a new lister and this is my first post. > >>I have a Thomas Pegram who was born c1839 in Hertfordshire. I know that > >>his > >>father's name was James Pegram, a labourer. Thomas appears on the 1871 > >>census. He is married to a lady named Mary Ann, and had a son, Thomas, > >>age > >>7, and a baby daugher Jeanette Mary. On that census page, the birthplace > >>for Thomas Pegram born c1839 is unreadable. Surrounding census details > >>are > >>clear as day. Can anyone who has access to ancestry.com go to that page > >>and see if you have any ideas, Thomas Pegram is down as 32 years old. It > >>might say Thos. instead of Thomas. > >>Ancestry has guessed the Hertfordshire birthplace as "Werneatts", but this > >>doesn't correspond to any actual towns or parishes in Hertfordshire that I > >>can find. > >>Janet Hopkins > >> > >> > >> > >>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >>For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > >>http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >>Hertfordshire FHS: > >>http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >> > >> > > > > > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >To POST a message to this list use the address: > > > >eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > > >2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > > >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > >receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > > > >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > >receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > > >In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > >or unsubscribe. > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you > are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the > thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >

Hi Eunice My records show that John (my relative) was the son of Joshua and Sarah and hence the continuance of the Joshua name down through the tree. This is also substantiated by an American relative who is a descendant of John's brother Joshua. If you want me to send you my tree we can take this back of line. Regards Kim >-- Original Message -- >From: "Phil Goude" <prgdesgn@tpg.com.au> >Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 17:08:23 +1000 >To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HRT] JOHN ALDRIDGE > > >Is there anyone that has a John Aldridge who married a Mary Barley in 1802 >in their tree at all, or sks able to verify which John Aldridge this was >as I have two born in Braughing, Hertford. >One b 1777 to a Joshua and Sarah >One b 1774 to a William and Martha. >Any help on this would be greatly received >Thanks >Eunice - Australia > > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding >the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration, >heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, >web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged. > ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

Hormead? There was certainly a Thomas PEGRAM age 12 b Great Hormead, Herts with his parents James & Hannah PEGRAM all living in Anstey in Herts in 1851. When you look at the writing for Hormead in the 1851 it is easier to convince yourself that the 1871 entry says Hormead as well!!! Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Williams" <jean1.williams@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: RE: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram > Hi Janet > > I couldn't read it either. I also checked the 1861 census and the only > one > that fitted was born in Essex. > > On FreeBDM there is a Thomas PEGRAM born Jun 1843 in Ongar wich is in > Essex. > > I wondered if the 1871 is incorrect? > > Jean > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Hopkins [mailto:janetchopkins@hotmail.com] > Sent: 03 May 2005 17:08 > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram > > > Hello! > I am a new lister and this is my first post. > I have a Thomas Pegram who was born c1839 in Hertfordshire. I know that > his > father's name was James Pegram, a labourer. Thomas appears on the 1871 > census. He is married to a lady named Mary Ann, and had a son, Thomas, > age > 7, and a baby daugher Jeanette Mary. On that census page, the birthplace > for Thomas Pegram born c1839 is unreadable. Surrounding census details > are > clear as day. Can anyone who has access to ancestry.com go to that page > and see if you have any ideas, Thomas Pegram is down as 32 years old. It > might say Thos. instead of Thomas. > Ancestry has guessed the Hertfordshire birthplace as "Werneatts", but this > doesn't correspond to any actual towns or parishes in Hertfordshire that I > can find. > Janet Hopkins > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Hi Janet I couldn't read it either. I also checked the 1861 census and the only one that fitted was born in Essex. On FreeBDM there is a Thomas PEGRAM born Jun 1843 in Ongar wich is in Essex. I wondered if the 1871 is incorrect? Jean -----Original Message----- From: Janet Hopkins [mailto:janetchopkins@hotmail.com] Sent: 03 May 2005 17:08 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram Hello! I am a new lister and this is my first post. I have a Thomas Pegram who was born c1839 in Hertfordshire. I know that his father's name was James Pegram, a labourer. Thomas appears on the 1871 census. He is married to a lady named Mary Ann, and had a son, Thomas, age 7, and a baby daugher Jeanette Mary. On that census page, the birthplace for Thomas Pegram born c1839 is unreadable. Surrounding census details are clear as day. Can anyone who has access to ancestry.com go to that page and see if you have any ideas, Thomas Pegram is down as 32 years old. It might say Thos. instead of Thomas. Ancestry has guessed the Hertfordshire birthplace as "Werneatts", but this doesn't correspond to any actual towns or parishes in Hertfordshire that I can find. Janet Hopkins ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

Hi Paula! Wow, this could be my family! Does the page you saw say anything else, such as dad's age or occupation, or any siblings? This family has been my brickwall for ages and ages, it would be nice to make some headway. Janet in Canada >From: "Paula Patterson" <prawm@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram >Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 18:42:26 +0100 > >Hormead? > >There was certainly a Thomas PEGRAM age 12 b Great Hormead, Herts with his >parents James & Hannah PEGRAM all living in Anstey in Herts in 1851. >When you look at the writing for Hormead in the 1851 it is easier to >convince yourself that the 1871 entry says Hormead as well!!! > >Paula > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Williams" ><jean1.williams@ntlworld.com> >To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:50 PM >Subject: RE: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram > > >>Hi Janet >> >>I couldn't read it either. I also checked the 1861 census and the only >>one >>that fitted was born in Essex. >> >>On FreeBDM there is a Thomas PEGRAM born Jun 1843 in Ongar wich is in >>Essex. >> >>I wondered if the 1871 is incorrect? >> >>Jean >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Janet Hopkins [mailto:janetchopkins@hotmail.com] >>Sent: 03 May 2005 17:08 >>To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [HRT] 1871 Hertfordshire birthplace for Thomas Pegram >> >> >>Hello! >>I am a new lister and this is my first post. >>I have a Thomas Pegram who was born c1839 in Hertfordshire. I know that >>his >>father's name was James Pegram, a labourer. Thomas appears on the 1871 >>census. He is married to a lady named Mary Ann, and had a son, Thomas, >>age >>7, and a baby daugher Jeanette Mary. On that census page, the birthplace >>for Thomas Pegram born c1839 is unreadable. Surrounding census details >>are >>clear as day. Can anyone who has access to ancestry.com go to that page >>and see if you have any ideas, Thomas Pegram is down as 32 years old. It >>might say Thos. instead of Thomas. >>Ancestry has guessed the Hertfordshire birthplace as "Werneatts", but this >>doesn't correspond to any actual towns or parishes in Hertfordshire that I >>can find. >>Janet Hopkins >> >> >> >>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >>http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> >>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>Hertfordshire FHS: >>http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >> >> > > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >To POST a message to this list use the address: > >eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > >2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. >receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > >ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. >receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > >In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe >or unsubscribe. >

Hello! I am a new lister and this is my first post. I have a Thomas Pegram who was born c1839 in Hertfordshire. I know that his father's name was James Pegram, a labourer. Thomas appears on the 1871 census. He is married to a lady named Mary Ann, and had a son, Thomas, age 7, and a baby daugher Jeanette Mary. On that census page, the birthplace for Thomas Pegram born c1839 is unreadable. Surrounding census details are clear as day. Can anyone who has access to ancestry.com go to that page and see if you have any ideas, Thomas Pegram is down as 32 years old. It might say Thos. instead of Thomas. Ancestry has guessed the Hertfordshire birthplace as "Werneatts", but this doesn't correspond to any actual towns or parishes in Hertfordshire that I can find. Janet Hopkins

Hello, Have read your e-mail about Thomas King. I think there is a connection to my King family. My Grandmother Annie King, who married Augustus Wood, was from Rickmansworth. Her parents were Samuel and Mary Ann King. Their children were, Samuel, Thomas, Sarah, Edward, and Annie (my Grandmother). Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holland, Ian (SEN)" <Ian.Holland@aph.gov.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: [HRT] KING Rickmansworth lookup request > Hello, > Thank you to everyone on this (and neighbouring county!) lists, who have > helped with earlier queries. Answers, hints and pointers have helped me > put together more of my STONE family. If you are interested in STONEs in > Herts, Chenies (Bucks) or London, contact me for more info. > > Two info requests: > 1. In 1871 census: Thomas KING (b.Rickmansworth abt 1808) m. Eliza > ?Wheeler (b. Harefield Mddx abt 1803). Marriage location not known, but > suspected to be Harefield, Mdx, just over the border from Herts. Date > probably early 1830s. Not on IGI. If anyone has any marriage indexes for > this period, covering Herts and/or Mdx, I'd love to see if you can find > this marriage, or any other information about Eliza and her unmarried > sister Hannah (b. Harefield abt 1808, found in 1881 census). > > 2. Can anyone help with 1841 and/or 1851 census data for Rickmansworth / > Croxley Green area? Looking for > (A) Thomas KING and wife Eliza and probable child Laura Elizabeth (b. > abt 1834). Any other children or relatives living with them? > > (B) Possible household of Thomas King's parents, again Rickmansworth: > Samuel KING and wife Sarah, and possibly some of their other children > Henry (b. 1824), Daniel (b.1822), James (b.1817), Betsy (or Betty / > Elizabeth, b.1814), Samuel (b.1812) and Ann (b.1810). > > All assistance gratefully received! > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Hello Janet, Thank you very much for the 1861 census entry. I've just discovered that Jesse's elder sister Emma is still in Watford in 1861, together with husband George BROWN, journeyman cooper. RG9/833/052 p09 - Hertfordshire, Watford, Schedule 53, Bridge Place George BROWN,Head,Mar,23,Cooper Journeyman,MDX,Brentford Emma BROWN,Wife,Mar,25,-,HRT,Watford The evidence that this is indeed my Jesse ALLEN is becoming hard to deny. Thanks again. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family > Hello Paul, > > Here is the family of George & Fanny in the 1861 census of Watford: > > PRO Ref: RG9/833, folio 56, page 17/18 > Schedule 86, Farthing Lane > > George ALLEN Head M 57 Labourer & Woodman > Herts Watford > Fanny do Wife M 51 Charwoman > do do > John do Son U 27 Labourer Farm > do do > George do Son U 17 do do > do Bushey > Joseph do Son 15 do > do do do > Jacob do Son 10 Scholar > do do > Jessey do Son 8 do > do do > Fanny A do Daur 5 do > do do > > Hope this helps. > > Janet Booth. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <fh@brazell.net> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family > > > > Hello Lorraine and Kristine, > > > > Yes, the Jesse ALLEN I am looking at is the son of George ALLEN and Fanny > > UNDERWOOD, although the evidence that this Jesse is the father of my great > > grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN is still circumstantial (Edith Emma recorded > > in > > 1881 census aged 5 in household of Emma BROWN née ALLEN, possibly an aunt, > > who was born Watford. Emma's and Jesse's father both George, so perhaps > > one > > and the same; Jesse possibly recorded in 1891 census born Watford. In > > 1891, > > Edith Emma recorded as a "cousin" in the household of Joseph and Martha > > ELSE, also born Hertfordshire, so there's another potential HRT link > > there, > > but the evidence will take some collecting). > > > > But still lots of question marks. For instance, Jesse's father George is > > a > > labourer according to Jesse's birth certificate (1853), but a builder > > according to Jesse's marriage certificate (1874). There is a George the > > builder of the right age in the 1881 census, albeit married to a Mary, not > > Fanny; there is also a widowed Fanny of the right age born HRT, Shenley > > resident in Acton, which fits with an old photo of her (albeit nameless) > > we > > have taken at a studio in Acton. > > > > Now trying to work out where to go next. Does your Jesse ALLEN have other > > siblings, or connections to an ELSE family? Emma BROWN née ALLEN was born > > estimated 1836, before registration started, so I'll be looking for > > available parish records (maybe Bushey, or, more difficult?, Watford), and > > may order the 1851 and 1861 census records. > > > > As noted in previous message, I've posted everything I know about the > > family > > at http://brazell.net/family/allen/ , so I won't go into all the gory > > details and speculation here. > > > > But two bites within 24 hours is pretty good going for a newbie :) > > > > Thanks for your interest and best regards, > > > > Paul Brazell > > Berlin, Germany > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> > > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:45 AM > > Subject: Re: [HRT] Allen Family > > > > > >> Hi Kristene > >> Yes I have been in touch with you Fanny Underwood was my ggg grandmother > >> sister. Have you checked the the site Genes United seems a few Allens > > from > >> Hertfordshire besides the ones that I have entered. > >> Lorraine > >> > >> -------Original Message------- > >> > >> From: KRISGENE1@aol.com > >> Date: 04/29/05 14:26:00 > >> To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [HRT] Allen Family > >> > >> Hi Paul and Lorraine > >> > >> I also have a Jesse Allen son of George Allen and Fanny Underwood. I > > descend > >> from Georges brother James Berrey Allen. Would love to here from you and > >> swap info on this Family. This is the first time I have come accross > > anyone doing > >> this family. > >> Hope to hear from you soon. > >> Regards > >> Kristene from down under > >> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "lorraine parfitt" <lparfitt@virtual.net.au> > > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford > > > > > >> Hi Paul > >> I have a Jesse Allen born 1853 in Watford parents George Allen and Fanny > >> Underwood. Would this be the Jesse that you are looking for. > >> Lorraine > >> > >> -------Original Message------- > >> > >> From: fh@brazell.net > >> Date: 04/29/05 08:09:56 > >> To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [HRT] Looking for Jesse and Emma ALLEN, Watford > >> > >> Dear Listers, > >> > >> I have just joined the Hertfordshire list on the search for ancestors of > > my > >> great grandmother Edith Emma ALLEN, born 1875 in Battersea, Surrey. Her > >> parents were Jesse ALLEN and Mary Ann Eliza LONG. I have reason to > > believe > >> that Jesse and a sister, Emma, were born in Watford, and that their > > father, > >> George, was a builder at some time in his life. > >> Before I go ahead and order the 1861 and 1851 census film of Watford to > > look > >> for the family, I would love to hear from anybody who recognises the > > family > >> and perhaps even has more information about them. > >> I've posted a summary of what I know about the family at http://brazell > >> net/family/allen/ , if anybody has the time and inclination to take a > > look. > >> Hertfordshire is new territory for me, after hanging around Bucks and > >> Oxon > >> for the last couple of years. I look forward to getting to know it a > > little > >> better. > >> > >> Paul Brazell > >> Berlin, Germany > >> > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged. > >

Dear Thelma referring to this message of yours on 28 March (it takes a while for the penny to drop these days!!) Is Nascot Cottage then a village/boarding-house/??/apartment?? Why should there be two heads of the same place and apparently two separate families Normbirts and Goodison? I am totally bewildered. The Nascot cottage address is Watford. Is that the same as Bushey or is Nascot in Bushey!! Forgive my doddering. I am having a bit of an argument with a cousin also researching this name and we seem to draw different conclusions! Many thanks for your patience in reading this far! Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelma Wigley" <t.wig@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 28 March 2005 09:46 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] 1841/51/61 Census Returns > Hi Patricia > > Here it is again: > > The family living at Nascott Cottage in 1851: > Charles Francis Normbirt Head Mrd 35 Land Agent/Surveyor/Auctioneer b. > Mddx, London > Sophia wife 27 > b.Watford > Kate dau 4 " > > Clara dau 3 " > Susannah Mawes servant Unm 21 b.Totsworth (?) Oxon > Thomas Gowers servant Unm 20 b.Stebbing, Essex > > Think this is your Anne > > Anne S.Goddison head Unm 56 Annuitant b.London > Caroline Hemmin visitor Unm 47 b.Tottingham (?Tottenham) Mddx > Elizabeth Wheeler servant Unm 59 b.Watford > > > No road - just Bushey > > Hope that helps > > Thelma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Frykberg" <patfryk@clear.net.nz> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:42 AM > Subject: [HRT] 1841/51/61 Census Returns > > > >I sent this message some time ago and then had a huge computer crash and > >was > > off line for some two weeks. I dont know if anyone replied. If so my > > apologies. I still need to have the addresses of these two women in 1841 > > and > > 1851 and would be delighted to have any information. > > Many thanks > > Patricia > > > > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, 11 March 2005 11:40 AM > > Subject: [Herts] Fw: 1841/51/61 Census Returns > > > > > >> > >> > >> Dear listers I am new to this list and have discovered I have two rellies > > in Herts. > >> Does anyone have access to these census returns? If so.... > >> Would you please check for > >> Belinda Sarah GOODISON Nascot Cottage Watford and > >> Ann Smith GOODISON Bushey Watford? > >> My undying thanks > >> Patricia > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> Hertfordshire FHS: > >> http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > >

Hi Ian Found these in the 1851 census all in Croxley Hamlet but at different sites, although no further addresses given: Film 107-1714 Folios 498-518 Page 15 James King head mrd 35 Misc.Lab. b.Herts. Rickmansworth Esther King wife do 30 do Mary A King dau 8 do William H King son 6 do Page 25 Thomas King head mrd 45 Baker (employing 1 man) b.Herts, Rickmansworth Eliza King wife do 48 b.Mddx. Harefield Laura King dau Unm 15 b.Herts, Rickmansworth Frederick Cook son Unm. 18 Baker b.Herts, Rickmansworth Page 33 Sarah King head widow 64 Farmer 26 acres (employing 3 labourers) b.Herts,Rockmansworth Samuel King son Unm 39 Ag.Lab do Henry King son Unm 26 do do Hope that helps Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holland, Ian (SEN)" <Ian.Holland@aph.gov.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:23 AM Subject: [HRT] KING Rickmansworth lookup request > Hello, > Thank you to everyone on this (and neighbouring county!) lists, who have > helped with earlier queries. Answers, hints and pointers have helped me > put together more of my STONE family. If you are interested in STONEs in > Herts, Chenies (Bucks) or London, contact me for more info. > > Two info requests: > 1. In 1871 census: Thomas KING (b.Rickmansworth abt 1808) m. Eliza > ?Wheeler (b. Harefield Mddx abt 1803). Marriage location not known, but > suspected to be Harefield, Mdx, just over the border from Herts. Date > probably early 1830s. Not on IGI. If anyone has any marriage indexes for > this period, covering Herts and/or Mdx, I'd love to see if you can find > this marriage, or any other information about Eliza and her unmarried > sister Hannah (b. Harefield abt 1808, found in 1881 census). > > 2. Can anyone help with 1841 and/or 1851 census data for Rickmansworth / > Croxley Green area? Looking for > (A) Thomas KING and wife Eliza and probable child Laura Elizabeth (b. > abt 1834). Any other children or relatives living with them? > > (B) Possible household of Thomas King's parents, again Rickmansworth: > Samuel KING and wife Sarah, and possibly some of their other children > Henry (b. 1824), Daniel (b.1822), James (b.1817), Betsy (or Betty / > Elizabeth, b.1814), Samuel (b.1812) and Ann (b.1810). > > All assistance gratefully received! > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Patricia The people living at Nascot Cottage (which from its name I would assume to be a cottage) at the time of the 1851 census were the Normbirts (Film 107/1714 Folios 341-357 Page 1) This is in Watford and would seem to be on the corner of St.Albans Road. Anne S. Goodison is NOT living at Nascot Cottage - she is living in Bushey, a village on the outskirts of Watford (Film 107/1714 Folios 79-96 Page 16) no other details of the address are given. I could not find Belinda Sarah Goodison. Hope that clarifies things Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Frykberg" <patfryk@clear.net.nz> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] 1841/51/61 Census Returns > Dear Thelma referring to this message of yours on 28 March (it takes a > while > for the penny to drop these days!!) > Is Nascot Cottage then a village/boarding-house/??/apartment?? > Why should there be two heads of the same place and apparently two > separate > families Normbirts and Goodison? > I am totally bewildered. The Nascot cottage address is Watford. Is that > the > same as Bushey or is Nascot in Bushey!! > Forgive my doddering. I am having a bit of an argument with a cousin also > researching this name and we seem to draw different conclusions! > Many thanks for your patience in reading this far! > Patricia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thelma Wigley" <t.wig@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, 28 March 2005 09:46 PM > Subject: Re: [HRT] 1841/51/61 Census Returns > > >> Hi Patricia >> >> Here it is again: >> >> The family living at Nascott Cottage in 1851: >> Charles Francis Normbirt Head Mrd 35 Land Agent/Surveyor/Auctioneer > b. >> Mddx, London >> Sophia wife 27 >> b.Watford >> Kate dau 4 > " >> >> Clara dau 3 > " >> Susannah Mawes servant Unm 21 b.Totsworth (?) Oxon >> Thomas Gowers servant Unm 20 b.Stebbing, Essex >> >> Think this is your Anne >> >> Anne S.Goddison head Unm 56 Annuitant b.London >> Caroline Hemmin visitor Unm 47 b.Tottingham (?Tottenham) Mddx >> Elizabeth Wheeler servant Unm 59 b.Watford >> >> >> No road - just Bushey >> >> Hope that helps >> >> Thelma >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patricia Frykberg" <patfryk@clear.net.nz> >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:42 AM >> Subject: [HRT] 1841/51/61 Census Returns >> >> >> >I sent this message some time ago and then had a huge computer crash and >> >was >> > off line for some two weeks. I dont know if anyone replied. If so my >> > apologies. I still need to have the addresses of these two women in >> > 1841 >> > and >> > 1851 and would be delighted to have any information. >> > Many thanks >> > Patricia >> > >> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Friday, 11 March 2005 11:40 AM >> > Subject: [Herts] Fw: 1841/51/61 Census Returns >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear listers I am new to this list and have discovered I have two > rellies >> > in Herts. >> >> Does anyone have access to these census returns? If so.... >> >> Would you please check for >> >> Belinda Sarah GOODISON Nascot Cottage Watford and >> >> Ann Smith GOODISON Bushey Watford? >> >> My undying thanks >> >> Patricia >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> Hertfordshire FHS: >> >> http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the >> > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other >> > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >> >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Hello, Thank you to everyone on this (and neighbouring county!) lists, who have helped with earlier queries. Answers, hints and pointers have helped me put together more of my STONE family. If you are interested in STONEs in Herts, Chenies (Bucks) or London, contact me for more info. Two info requests: 1. In 1871 census: Thomas KING (b.Rickmansworth abt 1808) m. Eliza ?Wheeler (b. Harefield Mddx abt 1803). Marriage location not known, but suspected to be Harefield, Mdx, just over the border from Herts. Date probably early 1830s. Not on IGI. If anyone has any marriage indexes for this period, covering Herts and/or Mdx, I'd love to see if you can find this marriage, or any other information about Eliza and her unmarried sister Hannah (b. Harefield abt 1808, found in 1881 census). 2. Can anyone help with 1841 and/or 1851 census data for Rickmansworth / Croxley Green area? Looking for (A) Thomas KING and wife Eliza and probable child Laura Elizabeth (b. abt 1834). Any other children or relatives living with them? (B) Possible household of Thomas King's parents, again Rickmansworth: Samuel KING and wife Sarah, and possibly some of their other children Henry (b. 1824), Daniel (b.1822), James (b.1817), Betsy (or Betty / Elizabeth, b.1814), Samuel (b.1812) and Ann (b.1810). All assistance gratefully received!

Hello, I have found 3 members of your KING family in the 1851 census of Rickmansworth: PRO Ref: HO 107/1714, folio 494, page 22 Hamlet of Batchworth Schedule 91 Daniel KING Head Mar 29 Farmer of 12 Acres Herts Rickmansworth Mary Do Wife Mar 26 Farmers Wife Do Do Sarah FOSTER Mother in Law Wid 66 Pauper Cambridgeshire Gransden (?) PRO Ref: HO 107/1714, folio 509, page 15 Croxly Hamlet Schedule 45 James KING Head Mar 35 Mill La Herts Rickmansworth Esther KING Wife Mar 30 Herts do Mary A KING Daur 8 Herts do William H KING Son 6 Herts do PRO Ref: HO 107/1714, folio 513, page 25 Croxly Hamlet Schedule 82 Thomas KING Head Mar 45 Baker (employing 1 man) Herts Rickmansworth Eliza KING Wife Mar 48 Midx Harefield Laura KING Daur U 15 Herts Rickmansworth Fredrick COOK Serv U 18 Baker Herts Pickets End Hope this helps. Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holland, Ian (SEN)" <Ian.Holland@aph.gov.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:23 AM Subject: [HRT] KING Rickmansworth lookup request > Hello, > Thank you to everyone on this (and neighbouring county!) lists, who have > helped with earlier queries. Answers, hints and pointers have helped me > put together more of my STONE family. If you are interested in STONEs in > Herts, Chenies (Bucks) or London, contact me for more info. > > Two info requests: > 1. In 1871 census: Thomas KING (b.Rickmansworth abt 1808) m. Eliza > ?Wheeler (b. Harefield Mddx abt 1803). Marriage location not known, but > suspected to be Harefield, Mdx, just over the border from Herts. Date > probably early 1830s. Not on IGI. If anyone has any marriage indexes for > this period, covering Herts and/or Mdx, I'd love to see if you can find > this marriage, or any other information about Eliza and her unmarried > sister Hannah (b. Harefield abt 1808, found in 1881 census). > > 2. Can anyone help with 1841 and/or 1851 census data for Rickmansworth / > Croxley Green area? Looking for > (A) Thomas KING and wife Eliza and probable child Laura Elizabeth (b. > abt 1834). Any other children or relatives living with them? > > (B) Possible household of Thomas King's parents, again Rickmansworth: > Samuel KING and wife Sarah, and possibly some of their other children > Henry (b. 1824), Daniel (b.1822), James (b.1817), Betsy (or Betty / > Elizabeth, b.1814), Samuel (b.1812) and Ann (b.1810). > > All assistance gratefully received! > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. >

In a message dated 02/05/2005 05:24:18 GMT Standard Time, Ian.Holland@aph.gov.au writes: Hello, Thank you to everyone on this (and neighbouring county!) lists, who have helped with earlier queries. Answers, hints and pointers have helped me put together more of my STONE family. If you are interested in STONEs in Herts, Chenies (Bucks) or London, contact me for more info. Are any of them 18C or earlier? My STONE line (sometimes STONES - spelling was inconsistent in them days) lived in Sawbridgeworth and/or the Bishop's Stortford area in the 1700s, but my info about them is slim. -- Mike Stone - Peterborough, England For the strength of the hills we bless thee, Our God, our fathers' God. Though hast made thy children mighty By the touch of the mountain sod. Thou hast led thy chosen Israel To freedom's last abode For the strength of the hills we bless thee Our God, our fathers God.

Dave, I think we have corresponded before, Stanmore rings a bell. Sorry I can not help Donald ----- Original Message ----- > For Donald Massey > > I have some interest in NORRIS in Watford. My greatx3 grandfather Thomas > Norris, a journeyman gardener, was married in Great Stanmore in 1795 to a > girl from Tring called Sarah Eversley. At the 1841 census he was said to > be 67 (thus born in 1774, and not in the same county). At his death three > years later his age was given as 72 (thus born in 1772). I have no other > evidence as to his year of birth. Nor do I know where he was born. There > are several possibilities, including Watford, and I wonder whether your > information throws any light on that. The nearest Watford possibility is > the child of Thomas Norris and Sarah ( formerly Bates?), baptised Thomas > in 1770. I hope to hear from you. > Jim Norris >