Could some kind person please do a check for me on the 1861 &/or 1871 census for Bushey. I am trying to trace William LEACH & his wife Elizabeth. I have them in the 1851 census lodging in a cottage near Bushey Hall with John & Esther CATLIN. I did a search of the 1861 census on "1837.com" but neither family showed up. TIA, Derick Smith Redcar, Cleveland. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 04/06/2005

Hi Sandra, Thanks for the URL. Have had a look and have a choice of three possibles. Many thanks, Best wishes, Sandra Sandra J Smith <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> wrote: Sandra Try: http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/HRT/parishes.html Sandra Smith SANDRA CARTER wrote: >Hi Listers, > >Does anyone know where I can find a list of the Parishes in HERTFORD, Hertfordshire please. > >Many thanks, > >Sandra > > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== To POST a message to this list use the address: eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe.

Sandra Try: http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/HRT/parishes.html Sandra Smith SANDRA CARTER wrote: >Hi Listers, > >Does anyone know where I can find a list of the Parishes in HERTFORD, Hertfordshire please. > >Many thanks, > >Sandra > > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > >

Hi Listers, Does anyone know where I can find a list of the Parishes in HERTFORD, Hertfordshire please. Many thanks, Sandra

I am looking for the Taylors of Watford Herts father Francis J b 1868 Stepeney m Francis Biles of Powerstock Dec quater 1895 at Islington Frances (ne Biles) B 1865 Powerstock Dorset d 1953 Watford Herts son ALfred John b 1896 Watford d 1975 Holyhead Anglesey Son Harry b 1898 d 1902 Watford Herts dau Mary b 1901 " " son Arthur b 1903 " " Any help will be appreciated Thank You Paul Willson

Hi Derick - welcome to the list I have relatives in Bushey also - not very often it seems I see Bushey listed here. Do you happen to have any of the following in your tree: GREEN, ELPHICK, PARADINE, DOLLIMORE Judy BC Canada ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Derick Smith" <derick.smith@ntlworld.com> Reply-To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] New Lister. Look-up. Please! Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:29:01 +0100 Could some kind person please do a check for me on the 1861 &/or 1871 census for Bushey. I am trying to trace William LEACH & his wife Elizabeth. I have them in the 1851 census lodging in a cottage near Bushey Hall with John & Esther CATLIN. I did a search of the 1861 census on "1837.com" but neither family showed up. TIA, Derick Smith Redcar, Cleveland. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 04/06/2005 ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

Hello George, I, too, have purchased some of the Militia Lists for Hertfordshire and have found them invaluable for finding lost ancestors. I put a query on the British Genealogy Forum as to age limits etc and this is the reply I received: I quote from 'Militia Lists and Musters 1757-1876' by Jeremy Gibson and Mervyn Medlycott. published by the FFHS ISBN 1 872 094 02 3. Page 5 "Under the 1757 Act the parish contables were ordered annually to record the names of all men aged 18 to 50, excluding only those who were peers, clergy, teachers, apprentices and 'peace officers'. However in the 1758 Act (31 Geo II c26) and thereafter until 1831, Parliament directed that no names be excluded, although the upper age limit was lowered to 5 from 1762. The militia ballot lists should therefore in theory be complete annual censuses of all men aged 18 to 50, from 1758 to 1762, and aged 18 to 45, from 1762 to 1831." Don't know if this will help at all, but I suppose you could purchase the booklet quoted as the source from one of your local FHS. Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fordham" <fordham@netconnect.com.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: [HRT] MILITIA LISTS > Back again after a period of 12 months to seek more assistance. > I have lists called Militia Lists which give a date, given and surname, > town and occupation. > > Could someone please give a brief explanation of what these lists really > are. Are they just lists of men available for service or who served during > the times shown? Were there age restrictions for service? > > A final column lists the word "DRAWN". An explanation please. > George. > > MY INTERESTS: FORDHAM, ORSMAN, VALENTINE. > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

This message gives a lot of sources new to me, thank you. What I believe the original message was about, however, is the Militia Lists published by Herts FHS. From what he says, I assume that George has photo copies of some pages, as if he had the complete booklet, he would have a brief explanation in the first page or so. In brief, they are the lists drawn by the parish constable of men eligible to serve on age grounds, with varying additional information from parish to parish. I think "Drawn" means that the person was listed to serve if necessary, and the same column sometimes gives the reason a man is excused. The occupation is also sometimes shown, in this connection "servant" does not necessarily mean a domestic servant, but a live-in employee, usually a guide as to whether the man is married. Number of children is also sometimes shown. Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- From: "whitr" <corineous@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] MILITIA LISTS > Hello George, > > I do not know what you precisely mean by MILITIA LISTS, What I have come > across are Paylists, Adjutants Muster lists, and Harts Army lists of > Officers all held by the National Archives at Kew, near London. > http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/searchloading.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=Hertfordshire+Militia&txtfirstdate=&txtlastdate=&txtrestriction=WO&hdnsorttype=Reference&image1.x=34&image1.y=11 > > Otherwise, I have found some records in Estate Records for local landed > families where the Colonial was responsible for the Militia, the latter > should be in the County Records Office or regrettably in private > collections where very often the owner hopes to make money out of the > acquisition. http://www.a2a.org.uk/ > > The paylists > where they exist contain name, rank, pay and off duty days. > > The Muster Lists > contain name, rank, duties/ hospitalisation/offences/et cetera. > > There are also personal records for Royal Hospital Chelsea [and if > applicable Royal Hospital Kilmainham for Irish Regiments]. The latter I > have included because for regulars the regiment is often moved around and > recruited locally. > They can be very detailed if they exist with personal descriptions, > service and reasons for granting pensions. For NCO's with long survive > they appear to be pensioned off as a policy not for illness. > > There are a lot of sources for these and using you search on your browser > will help. The Napoleonic period called the Great War has a lot of > records. > > The word Drawn depends on the period I am not sure as in Ireland it was a > duty to serve or have someone serve in a family. And to get out they had > to find substitutes at least in the period 1793-1816. > > If you put a message on the Military Message board on Ancestry.com or > Rootsweb you will get much more information. > > Ray > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fordham" <fordham@netconnect.com.au> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:59 AM > Subject: [HRT] MILITIA LISTS > > >> Back again after a period of 12 months to seek more assistance. >> I have lists called Militia Lists which give a date, given and surname, >> town and occupation. >> >> Could someone please give a brief explanation of what these lists really >> are. Are they just lists of men available for service or who served >> during the times shown? Were there age restrictions for service? >> >> A final column lists the word "DRAWN". An explanation please. >> George. >> >> MY INTERESTS: FORDHAM, ORSMAN, VALENTINE. >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > encouraged. > >

Back again after a period of 12 months to seek more assistance. I have lists called Militia Lists which give a date, given and surname, town and occupation. Could someone please give a brief explanation of what these lists really are. Are they just lists of men available for service or who served during the times shown? Were there age restrictions for service? A final column lists the word "DRAWN". An explanation please. George. MY INTERESTS: FORDHAM, ORSMAN, VALENTINE.

Hello George, I do not know what you precisely mean by MILITIA LISTS, What I have come across are Paylists, Adjutants Muster lists, and Harts Army lists of Officers all held by the National Archives at Kew, near London. http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/searchloading.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=Hertfordshire+Militia&txtfirstdate=&txtlastdate=&txtrestriction=WO&hdnsorttype=Reference&image1.x=34&image1.y=11 Otherwise, I have found some records in Estate Records for local landed families where the Colonial was responsible for the Militia, the latter should be in the County Records Office or regrettably in private collections where very often the owner hopes to make money out of the acquisition. http://www.a2a.org.uk/ The paylists where they exist contain name, rank, pay and off duty days. The Muster Lists contain name, rank, duties/ hospitalisation/offences/et cetera. There are also personal records for Royal Hospital Chelsea [and if applicable Royal Hospital Kilmainham for Irish Regiments]. The latter I have included because for regulars the regiment is often moved around and recruited locally. They can be very detailed if they exist with personal descriptions, service and reasons for granting pensions. For NCO's with long survive they appear to be pensioned off as a policy not for illness. There are a lot of sources for these and using you search on your browser will help. The Napoleonic period called the Great War has a lot of records. The word Drawn depends on the period I am not sure as in Ireland it was a duty to serve or have someone serve in a family. And to get out they had to find substitutes at least in the period 1793-1816. If you put a message on the Military Message board on Ancestry.com or Rootsweb you will get much more information. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fordham" <fordham@netconnect.com.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: [HRT] MILITIA LISTS > Back again after a period of 12 months to seek more assistance. > I have lists called Militia Lists which give a date, given and surname, town and occupation. > > Could someone please give a brief explanation of what these lists really are. Are they just lists of men available for service or who served during the times shown? Were there age restrictions for service? > > A final column lists the word "DRAWN". An explanation please. > George. > > MY INTERESTS: FORDHAM, ORSMAN, VALENTINE. > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Just to add to Thelma's census records I think I've found Joseph with his parents and many siblings in Clothall. Clearly, however, both the Clothall branch and the ones Thelma found must all be related. 1851 census: Clothall, Hertfordshire 107 - Piece 1709 Folio 58 Clothall Bury Farm William SALE Head Mar 45 Farmer of 430 acres b Herts Hinxworth & wife and 6 children & governess Martha BLAXILL Servant U Nurse maid b Herts Aston & 3 other servants Clothall, Hertfordshire 107 - Piece 1709 Folio 51 Clothall Village Charles BLAXILL Head Mar 55 Farmer of 127 acres employing one labourer b Suffolk Walpole Martha BLAXILL Wife Mar 49 Farmer's wife b Northamptonshire, Brington Ann BLAXHILL Daur Un 27 Farmer's daur b Herts Bennington Nathaniel BLAXILL Son Un 24 Farmer's son b Herts Bennington Robert BLAXILL Son Un 23 Farmer's son b Herts Bennington Joseph BLAXILL Son Un 21 Farmer's son b Herts Aston Sarah BLAXILL Daur Un 20 Farmer's daur b Herts Aston James BLAXILL Son Un 17 Farmer's son b Herts Aston Richard BLAXILL Son Un 15 Farmer's son b Herts Aston George BLAXILL Son Un 11 Farmer's son b Herts Letchworth Henry BLAXILL Son Un 10 Farmer's son b Herts Clothall Mary BLAXILL Daur Un 7 Farmer's daur b Herts Clothall Elizabeth BLAXILL Daur Un 6 Farmer's daur b Herts Clothall John BLAXILL GrandSon Un 1 Farmer's son*** b Herts Weston ***The relationship column originally had 'Son' in and 'Grand' was added afterwards - presumably they didn't spot that they needed to change the occupation column as well. > Hi Joanne > > I can't help with church records I'm afraid but I have the 1851 Herts > census so I had a look for your people and found these > > Film 107/1709 Folios 158-171 Page 16 Living at Warrens Green, > Weston > Joseph Barker head mrd 52 Ag.Lab b.Weston, Herts > Sarah Barker wife do 50 Straw Plaiter do > Mary Anne dau Unm 27 do do > William son do 21 Ag.Lab do > Sarah dau Unm 18 Straw Plaiter do > George son Unm 8 Scholar do > > P20 Friends Green, Weston > Charles Blaxill head 28 Farmer 48 acres employing2 men > b.Bennington, Herts > Ann wife 25 b.Stevenage > George Watson visitor Unm 19 Groom b.Baldock, Herts > > Folio 172-192 P28 Village, Weston > John Blaxill head 25 Baker b.Bennington > Mary Howard?Blaxill wife 22 b.Weston > John son 4 do > > Film 107/1711 Folios 69-89 Page 7 Culling Hill, Bennington > Robert Blaxill head 50 Darllman? (Ag.Lab written in different writing) > b. Sfk, Warpole > Hannah wife 50 b. Sfk. Chaddeston > Reuben son 26 Ag.Lab b.Bennington > Charles son 19 do do > Samuel son 11 do do > Sarah dau 7 do > John son 5 do > John father wid. 83 Pauper. Late Ag.Lab b. Sfk.Warpole > > Couldn't see a Joseph Blaxill in Weston or Bennington but will look again > tomorrow as they are not huge folios. > Hope this may be of interest. > > Thelma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joanne" <sweetpea34@earthlink.net> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:48 PM > Subject: [HRT] Blaxill-Barker family Weston > > >> Hi Everyone >> >> I am new to this list so hope to make my query as simple as possible. I >> have traced my ancestors to the village of Weston. I have censuses >> covering members of this family from 1861 to 1891. >> Would like to acquire church records on them from the Parish of Weston. >> I know that JOSEPH BLAXILL married SARAH BARKER in the parish of Weston >> on Dec. 11, 1858. They had 8 children, the youngest Sarah E. BLAXILL, >> being my grandmother. SARAH BARKER BLAXILL died in 1879 and JOSEPH >> BLAXILL in 1904 in Weston. I am hoping someone can direct me to finding >> any church records on this family. >> >> Any comments would be appreciated >> >> Best Regards ...Joanne >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

Hi Joanne I can't help with church records I'm afraid but I have the 1851 Herts census so I had a look for your people and found these Film 107/1709 Folios 158-171 Page 16 Living at Warrens Green, Weston Joseph Barker head mrd 52 Ag.Lab b.Weston, Herts Sarah Barker wife do 50 Straw Plaiter do Mary Anne dau Unm 27 do do William son do 21 Ag.Lab do Sarah dau Unm 18 Straw Plaiter do George son Unm 8 Scholar do P20 Friends Green, Weston Charles Blaxill head 28 Farmer 48 acres employing2 men b.Bennington, Herts Ann wife 25 b.Stevenage George Watson visitor Unm 19 Groom b.Baldock, Herts Folio 172-192 P28 Village, Weston John Blaxill head 25 Baker b.Bennington Mary Howard?Blaxill wife 22 b.Weston John son 4 do Film 107/1711 Folios 69-89 Page 7 Culling Hill, Bennington Robert Blaxill head 50 Darllman? (Ag.Lab written in different writing) b. Sfk, Warpole Hannah wife 50 b. Sfk. Chaddeston Reuben son 26 Ag.Lab b.Bennington Charles son 19 do do Samuel son 11 do do Sarah dau 7 do John son 5 do John father wid. 83 Pauper. Late Ag.Lab b. Sfk.Warpole Couldn't see a Joseph Blaxill in Weston or Bennington but will look again tomorrow as they are not huge folios. Hope this may be of interest. Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne" <sweetpea34@earthlink.net> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: [HRT] Blaxill-Barker family Weston > Hi Everyone > > I am new to this list so hope to make my query as simple as possible. I > have traced my ancestors to the village of Weston. I have censuses > covering members of this family from 1861 to 1891. > Would like to acquire church records on them from the Parish of Weston. I > know that JOSEPH BLAXILL married SARAH BARKER in the parish of Weston on > Dec. 11, 1858. They had 8 children, the youngest Sarah E. BLAXILL, being > my grandmother. SARAH BARKER BLAXILL died in 1879 and JOSEPH BLAXILL in > 1904 in Weston. I am hoping someone can direct me to finding any church > records on this family. > > Any comments would be appreciated > > Best Regards ...Joanne > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

I think that horses were sold in guineas in those days and it is something that is attached to that. I may be wrong. I know that some of the horse racing meets are still called ?something guineas! Eunice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Frykberg" <patfryk@clear.net.nz> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Wills in the 1850s > I think you would have to call nineteen pounds 19 shillings. £19.19s.0d. > The 95 cents doesn't really fit with the period . Just my 2c worth. I also > wonder why that was the figure used? had to be something to do with tax! > Interesting. > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 09:10 AM > Subject: [HRT] Wills in the 1850s > > > > I have come across several wills where the sum of nineteen guineas (£19.95 > > in new money!) was left to children and grandchildren. > > > > Was there some magic about this figure, or for some reason, eg a form of > > Death Duty, was it wished to keep the figure below £20? > > > > Donald Massey > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Hertfordshire FHS: > > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > > > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. > >

Hi Everyone I am new to this list so hope to make my query as simple as possible. I have traced my ancestors to the village of Weston. I have censuses covering members of this family from 1861 to 1891. Would like to acquire church records on them from the Parish of Weston. I know that JOSEPH BLAXILL married SARAH BARKER in the parish of Weston on Dec. 11, 1858. They had 8 children, the youngest Sarah E. BLAXILL, being my grandmother. SARAH BARKER BLAXILL died in 1879 and JOSEPH BLAXILL in 1904 in Weston. I am hoping someone can direct me to finding any church records on this family. Any comments would be appreciated Best Regards ...Joanne

I think you would have to call nineteen pounds 19 shillings. £19.19s.0d. The 95 cents doesn't really fit with the period . Just my 2c worth. I also wonder why that was the figure used? had to be something to do with tax! Interesting. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Massey" <donaldmasseyuk@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 09:10 AM Subject: [HRT] Wills in the 1850s > I have come across several wills where the sum of nineteen guineas (£19.95 > in new money!) was left to children and grandchildren. > > Was there some magic about this figure, or for some reason, eg a form of > Death Duty, was it wished to keep the figure below £20? > > Donald Massey > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Hi Everyone I am new to this list so hope to make my query as simple as possible. I have traced my ancestors to the village of Weston. I have censuses covering members of this family from 1861 to 1891. I would like to acquire church records on them from the Parish of Weston. I know that JOSEPH BLAXILL married SARAH BARKER in the parish of weston on Dec. 11, 1858. They had 8 children, the youngest Sarah E. BLAXILL, being my grandmother. SARAH BARKER BLAXILL died in 1879 and JOSEPH BLAXILL in 1904 in Weston. I am hoping someone can direct me to finding any church records on this family. Any comments would be appreciated Best Regards.....Joanne

Another newcomer to the list! I have been researching the name HOAR, mainly based around Hemel Hempstead, for sometime. I've made a few contacts but we all appear to be stuck with RICHARD HOAR born around 1803 (IGI says abt 1800). We know he married ALICE WELLS from Aston Clinton at St Mary's, Hemel in 1825. We know he had 5 children: THOMAS RICHARD, MARY ANN, CHRISTOPHER JOHN, JANE and WILLIAM ORLANDO. In the 1841 census he was living in Orchard's Yard (now Austin Place); with the family was a RACHEL BUCKLAND - she was stated as 86 year old and NOT born in Herts So the questions are who were RICHARD's parents and did he have any siblings? Is RACHEL a clue? In anticipation..

Hello Peter, I have an ENGLISH ancestor who comes from Limerick in Ireland. I doubt if this is of interest but I am always seeking other researchers of the English name just in case! I am in Australia and my Great-grandmother came from Ireland named Honoria ENGLISH. Regards, Jill J Sydney Australia Hi All, I am researching the following: ENGLAND: Hertfordshire: Shoobridge, Ingram Kent: Shoobridge, Buss, Grisbrook, Brisledon & Howard. London: Shoobridge, Cussen. SCOTLAND: Fife: McGillivray, Mitchell, Duff & Dorwood. Glasgow: Miller, McKay/Mackay. Lanarkshire: Cartmell/Cartmill. Perthshire: Miller, Cartmell/Cartmill. Stirlingshire: Cartmell/Cartmill. IRELAND: Kerry: Cussen, Carmody & Finn. Tipperary --South & North: Ryan, Hogan, Sheehan, Lonergan, Kenny, Glasheen, Corrigan, Kenaly. Peter Ryan, Melbourne, Australia ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== Hertfordshire FHS: http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm

Hi All, I am researching the following: ENGLAND: Hertfordshire: Shoobridge, Ingram Kent: Shoobridge, Buss, Grisbrook, Brisledon & Howard. London: Shoobridge, Cussen. SCOTLAND: Fife: McGillivray, Mitchell, Duff & Dorwood. Glasgow: Miller, McKay/Mackay. Lanarkshire: Cartmell/Cartmill. Perthshire: Miller, Cartmell/Cartmill. Stirlingshire: Cartmell/Cartmill. IRELAND: Kerry: Cussen, Carmody & Finn. Tipperary --South & North: Ryan, Hogan, Sheehan, Lonergan, Kenny, Glasheen, Corrigan, Kenaly. Peter Ryan, Melbourne, Australia

Hi Brenda I appreciate your difficulty, I too have ancestors born in exactly the same area as you mention, Hadley / Chipping Barnet. I have yet to discover when they interchange! An associated problem is the boundary is so close together it becomes extremely difficult to tell the difference. In some directories it is listed as Hertfordshire and in others as Middlesex. On some sites (LDS) it would seem that they do not recognise Middlesex as a county as on a number of searches it does not show up on their drop down menu. It is also made a bit more complicated by the fact that records are held at different locations depending on how things are classified. Not much help but then problem shared is a problem halved! regards Catherine Vincent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Jones" <BRENDAJJONES@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 2:20 AM Subject: [HRT] Re-POULTON > Hi, > > I am rejoining the list after a short break and thought I would use the opportunity to rename my interest. > > Charles POULTON born possibly about 1787. In Census records he gives his birthplace as Hadley or Barnet. He married Amey USHER 1812 in London and died 1870 in Hadley, Hertfordshire/Middlesex. Amey was dead by 1851 as Charles is a widow. I have not found him in any 1841 Census yet. His occupation was a gardener. He seemed to move around as his children were baptised in 1814 Chipping Barnet, 1815 Totteridge, 1817 Chipping Barnet, 1820 Monken Hadley, 1823 - 1830 Hatfield. From 1841 to his death 1870 he seemed to have stayed in Hadley. > > I do get a little confused as to what areas are in Herts and what areas are in Middlesex. Is there a simple explanation anywhere as to the changes in county boundaries, especially in the 18th and 19th centuries, that someone can tell me about? > > If anyone has come across any references to POULTON in any of the above places please would you tell me so I can get the films and checkthem for my ancestors. > If anyone has POULTON in their family tree, I would be interested to hear from them. > > Regards > > Brenda > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >