Yes, it is still there, Eunice, but quite a number of the old houses have been demolished & replaced by things like a petrol station/garage, a courthouse & a supermarket car park. If you need to know where it is use www.streetmap.co.uk, enter "old park road" and check the "Street" button. I haven't fpound any pictures on the internet, but if you Google for "old park road hitchin" you'll get quite a few hits Regards Geoff Morse Hitchin

If you go to http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl and enter the appropriate event/year/quarter/start letter and then select 1839m4-W-471 you'll see that Eliza WALLER has the same Hertford Vol 6 Page 919 details. Paula > Hello Melissa, > > There is a marriage listed for a Thomas CAMPKIN on Ancestry in December > quarter 1839 in Hertford reg. district volume 6, page 919, but > unfortunately there are 2 grooms listed and only one bride. However, if > you are subscribed to 1837 online it should be a simple matter to check > that reference under Eliza WALLER and see if they correspond - > unfortunately I have no credit left so can't do it for you. > > Good luck, > > Janet Booth. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al & Melissa Zimmerman" <al.zimmerman@ns.sympatico.ca> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:39 PM > Subject: [HRT] WALLER/CAMPKIN/ASHWOOD > > >> My ancestors are the CAMPKINs and recently I had an enquiry from someone >> related to an Eliza CAMPKIN wondering if there was a connection. So far >> I haven't been able to establish one, but have been provided with some >> data and would appreciate it if anyone has information on them. >> >> Eliza CAMPKIN married Joseph ASHWOOD 1846 Stapleford. It turns out she >> was previously married and her maiden name was WALLER, she was born 1816 >> in Wheathampstead. Eliza and Joseph had several children and my contact >> is in possession of Census data for 1861 onwards for most of them. >> >> I have been unable to find Eliza WALLER's first marriage to a CAMPKIN, >> but surmise it is a Thomas CAMPKIN, there are children to this pair - >> Mary bap. Bengeo 1841, Elizabeth bap. Stapleford 1843 and Eliza bap. >> Stapleford 1844, an appropriate death can be found for a Thomas CAMPKIN >> 1845. >> >> What I would be interested in is evidence of a marriage for Eliza WALLER >> and Thomas CAMPKIN (or any other CAMPKIN) presumably circa 1839. >> >> 1841 Census entry for Eliza and Thomas CAMPKIN with daughter Mary >> (baptised in February 1841), could be in Bengeo or Stapleford >> >> 1851 Census entry for Joseph ASHWOOD and Eliza with children, likely Emma >> b. 1847, Caroline b. 1849 and possibly Edward bap January 1851 all in >> Stapleford, possibly with CAMPKIN children too. >> >> Always looking for CAMPKIN connections, particularly in Ardeley, >> Datchworth, Watton at Stone areas. >> >> Many thanks for any help, >> Melissa Zimmerman >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Hi Paul, There is a marriage on Free BMD in the March quarter of 1883 in Watford reg district (which includes Sarratt) vol 3a, page 499 of an Hamlet Edwin HEDGE. There are 2 grooms names recorded and only one bride. However, I think you are in luck. The bride's name is Emily Maria JOYNER and on the 1891 census, Hamlet is in Croxley Green, Hertfordshire (PRO Ref: RG/12/1121, folio 107, page 4, schedule 23, Little Green Cott) with wife Emily (aged 31 born Herts, Kings Langley) and children Caroline (aged 7), Alice (aged 4) and Lily (aged 2) all born Croxley Green. The date of the marriage fits in quite well with the birth of the eldest daughter, so is certainly worth investigating. Just in case Emily is the correct bride, I looked for her on the 1861 census and found her in Kings Langley: PRO Ref: RG9/837, folio 62, page 15 Schedule 65, Langley Hill George JOINER Head Mar 39 Labourer in Brewhouse Bucks Clusham (?) Esther do Wife Mar 34 Straw Plaiter do Wycombe Phillip do Son 12 Errand Boy Herts Kings Langley Mary do Daur 10 Scholar do do Elizabeth do Daur 8 do do do Ann do Daur 6 do do do Richard do Son 3 do do Emily do Daur 1 do do This tends to confirm that Hamlet's bride was indeed Emily Maria Joyner and hopefully the marriage certificate will match all the above details. If you would like any more census information on the above families, get back in touch. Good luck. Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hood" <PaulHood@newmanandbond.co.uk> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: [HRT] HEDGE > > Hi all > Searching for any information on Hamlet Edwin HEDGE son of William and > Charlotte EDGE, (yes the names are right, they changed their names). > Born in Sarratt on 15th Dec 1859. Can't find marriage or death, can > anyone help. > Paul > > ________________________________ > > Block Spam Emails - Click here! > <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=3134 > 2&partner=fastutility> > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >

Hi Melissa - these would seem to be your people in Stapleford in 1851 107/1711 Folios 131-142 Page 3 Bulls Mill Elizabeth Campkin head wid 39 Dressmaker b.Bengeo Eliza do dau 15 Gen.Servant b.Stapleford Fanny do dau 10 Scholar do Charles do son 8 do do Page 11 The? North Road Joseph Ashwood head mrd 32 Ag.Lab b.Aston, Herts Eliza do wife 36 b.Wheathamstead, Herts Mary dau 10 b.Bengeo Eliza dau 7 b.Bengeo Emma dau 4 b.Stapleford Caroline dau 2 do Edward son 5 months do Lucy Tuigay? Nurse 67 Nurse in receipt of parish relief b.Plymouth, Devon Next Door in The? North Road Frederick Ashwood head mrd 21 Ag.Lab b.Aston Eliza wife 22 b.Stapleford Page 13 The? North Road George Campkin head mrd 35 Ag.Lab b.Aston Mary A. do wife 33 b.Hertford Samuel son 8 scholar b.Stapleford Mary dau 5 do do George son 3 do do Sarah dau 1 do Hope that helps Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al & Melissa Zimmerman" <al.zimmerman@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: [HRT] WALLER/CAMPKIN/ASHWOOD > My ancestors are the CAMPKINs and recently I had an enquiry from someone > related to an Eliza CAMPKIN wondering if there was a connection. So far I > haven't been able to establish one, but have been provided with some data > and would appreciate it if anyone has information on them. > > Eliza CAMPKIN married Joseph ASHWOOD 1846 Stapleford. It turns out she > was previously married and her maiden name was WALLER, she was born 1816 > in Wheathampstead. Eliza and Joseph had several children and my contact > is in possession of Census data for 1861 onwards for most of them. > > I have been unable to find Eliza WALLER's first marriage to a CAMPKIN, but > surmise it is a Thomas CAMPKIN, there are children to this pair - Mary > bap. Bengeo 1841, Elizabeth bap. Stapleford 1843 and Eliza bap. Stapleford > 1844, an appropriate death can be found for a Thomas CAMPKIN 1845. > > What I would be interested in is evidence of a marriage for Eliza WALLER > and Thomas CAMPKIN (or any other CAMPKIN) presumably circa 1839. > > 1841 Census entry for Eliza and Thomas CAMPKIN with daughter Mary > (baptised in February 1841), could be in Bengeo or Stapleford > > 1851 Census entry for Joseph ASHWOOD and Eliza with children, likely Emma > b. 1847, Caroline b. 1849 and possibly Edward bap January 1851 all in > Stapleford, possibly with CAMPKIN children too. > > Always looking for CAMPKIN connections, particularly in Ardeley, > Datchworth, Watton at Stone areas. > > Many thanks for any help, > Melissa Zimmerman > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

Hello Melissa, There is a marriage listed for a Thomas CAMPKIN on Ancestry in December quarter 1839 in Hertford reg. district volume 6, page 919, but unfortunately there are 2 grooms listed and only one bride. However, if you are subscribed to 1837 online it should be a simple matter to check that reference under Eliza WALLER and see if they correspond - unfortunately I have no credit left so can't do it for you. Good luck, Janet Booth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al & Melissa Zimmerman" <al.zimmerman@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: [HRT] WALLER/CAMPKIN/ASHWOOD > My ancestors are the CAMPKINs and recently I had an enquiry from someone > related to an Eliza CAMPKIN wondering if there was a connection. So far I > haven't been able to establish one, but have been provided with some data > and would appreciate it if anyone has information on them. > > Eliza CAMPKIN married Joseph ASHWOOD 1846 Stapleford. It turns out she > was previously married and her maiden name was WALLER, she was born 1816 > in Wheathampstead. Eliza and Joseph had several children and my contact > is in possession of Census data for 1861 onwards for most of them. > > I have been unable to find Eliza WALLER's first marriage to a CAMPKIN, but > surmise it is a Thomas CAMPKIN, there are children to this pair - Mary > bap. Bengeo 1841, Elizabeth bap. Stapleford 1843 and Eliza bap. Stapleford > 1844, an appropriate death can be found for a Thomas CAMPKIN 1845. > > What I would be interested in is evidence of a marriage for Eliza WALLER > and Thomas CAMPKIN (or any other CAMPKIN) presumably circa 1839. > > 1841 Census entry for Eliza and Thomas CAMPKIN with daughter Mary > (baptised in February 1841), could be in Bengeo or Stapleford > > 1851 Census entry for Joseph ASHWOOD and Eliza with children, likely Emma > b. 1847, Caroline b. 1849 and possibly Edward bap January 1851 all in > Stapleford, possibly with CAMPKIN children too. > > Always looking for CAMPKIN connections, particularly in Ardeley, > Datchworth, Watton at Stone areas. > > Many thanks for any help, > Melissa Zimmerman > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Hi all Searching for any information on Hamlet Edwin HEDGE son of William and Charlotte EDGE, (yes the names are right, they changed their names). Born in Sarratt on 15th Dec 1859. Can't find marriage or death, can anyone help. Paul ________________________________ Block Spam Emails - Click here! <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=3134 2&partner=fastutility>

In a message dated 15/06/2005 13:40:03 GMT Standard Time, al.zimmerman@ns.sympatico.ca writes: My ancestors are the CAMPKINs and recently I had an enquiry from someone related to an Eliza CAMPKIN wondering if there was a connection. So far I haven't been able to establish one, but have been provided with some data and would appreciate it if anyone has information on them. Eliza CAMPKIN married Joseph ASHWOOD 1846 Stapleford. It turns out she was previously married and her maiden name was WALLER, she was born 1816 in Wheathampstead. Eliza and Joseph had several children and my contact is in possession of Census data for 1861 onwards for most of them. I have been unable to find Eliza WALLER's first marriage to a CAMPKIN, but surmise it is a Thomas CAMPKIN, there are children to this pair - Mary bap. Bengeo 1841, Elizabeth bap. Stapleford 1843 and Eliza bap. Stapleford 1844, an appropriate death can be found for a Thomas CAMPKIN 1845. What I would be interested in is evidence of a marriage for Eliza WALLER and Thomas CAMPKIN (or any other CAMPKIN) presumably circa 1839. 1841 Census entry for Eliza and Thomas CAMPKIN with daughter Mary (baptised in February 1841), could be in Bengeo or Stapleford 1851 Census entry for Joseph ASHWOOD and Eliza with children, likely Emma b. 1847, Caroline b. 1849 and possibly Edward bap January 1851 all in Stapleford, possibly with CAMPKIN children too. Always looking for CAMPKIN connections, particularly in Ardeley, Datchworth, Watton at Stone areas. I have quite a lot of CAMPKINs, mostly living in Melbourn or Bassingbourn, Cambs, plus a few in Northants, and at least one who went to America. Are these of any interest? -- Mike Stone - Peterborough, England For the strength of the hills we bless thee, Our God, our fathers' God. Though hast made thy children mighty By the touch of the mountain sod. Thou hast led thy chosen Israel To freedom's last abode For the strength of the hills we bless thee Our God, our fathers God.

My ancestors are the CAMPKINs and recently I had an enquiry from someone related to an Eliza CAMPKIN wondering if there was a connection. So far I haven't been able to establish one, but have been provided with some data and would appreciate it if anyone has information on them. Eliza CAMPKIN married Joseph ASHWOOD 1846 Stapleford. It turns out she was previously married and her maiden name was WALLER, she was born 1816 in Wheathampstead. Eliza and Joseph had several children and my contact is in possession of Census data for 1861 onwards for most of them. I have been unable to find Eliza WALLER's first marriage to a CAMPKIN, but surmise it is a Thomas CAMPKIN, there are children to this pair - Mary bap. Bengeo 1841, Elizabeth bap. Stapleford 1843 and Eliza bap. Stapleford 1844, an appropriate death can be found for a Thomas CAMPKIN 1845. What I would be interested in is evidence of a marriage for Eliza WALLER and Thomas CAMPKIN (or any other CAMPKIN) presumably circa 1839. 1841 Census entry for Eliza and Thomas CAMPKIN with daughter Mary (baptised in February 1841), could be in Bengeo or Stapleford 1851 Census entry for Joseph ASHWOOD and Eliza with children, likely Emma b. 1847, Caroline b. 1849 and possibly Edward bap January 1851 all in Stapleford, possibly with CAMPKIN children too. Always looking for CAMPKIN connections, particularly in Ardeley, Datchworth, Watton at Stone areas. Many thanks for any help, Melissa Zimmerman

Hiya, If anyone is going to the National Archives at Kew in the near future and could do me a favour could you get in touch with me pleasseeeeeeeeeeee - fingers and toes crossed. Pam www.hudgill.co.uk

I agree Ron, Most of these scheme are scams to harvest email addresses. Robin Chapple At 13/06/2005 20:31, ronnew@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: >Hi Cheryl > >I think this is out of order sending this to the the list and is nothing >to do with list members. >Regards >Ron > > > Hi > > > > I am updating my address book and it would be very helpful if you could > > click on the link below and enter your contact details for me: > > > > http://www.bebo.com/fr1/17220802a378586143b244055992c163390667d20 > > > > I am using a service that keeps contact details current. Just update your > > own contact details and then the changes appear in selected friends' > > address books. When I update my contact details you will see them in your > > address book. > > > > Thank you for helping. > > > > Cheryl > > > >==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration >patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, >family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is >encouraged.

Hi Listers, Does anyone have a connection to any HANNELL/HENNELL and similar names in the All Saints District of Hertford, Hertfordshire please or any nearby districts? Many thanks, Sandra

> Dear Listers, > > To which of the Royston District registrar's offices should I write for a > birth that occurred in *Royston*? > > Would anyone know if that office would have an email address? >> > Hi Joan Here are some links to Herts Direct with all the information you need to order a Birth, Marriage or Death certificate. (Herts Only) http://www.hertsdirect.org/publicservs/register/contactplus/contactreg/759520 http://www.hertsdirect.org/publicservs/register/copycert/ Regards Evelyn (Herts UK)

Dear Listers, This is just to let you know that Evelyn has very kindly helped me with the Register Office information. I should be all set now! :>) Many thanks! Joan

Hi Cheryl I think this is out of order sending this to the the list and is nothing to do with list members. Regards Ron > Hi > > I am updating my address book and it would be very helpful if you could > click on the link below and enter your contact details for me: > > http://www.bebo.com/fr1/17220802a378586143b244055992c163390667d20 > > I am using a service that keeps contact details current. Just update your > own contact details and then the changes appear in selected friends' > address books. When I update my contact details you will see them in your > address book. > > Thank you for helping. > > Cheryl

Dear Listers, I wonder if someone could help with a couple of questions. To which of the Royston District registrar's offices should I write for a birth that occurred in *Royston*? Would anyone know if that office would have an email address? Thank you very much! Sincerely, Joan Nova Scotia, Canada

Hi I am updating my address book and it would be very helpful if you could click on the link below and enter your contact details for me: http://www.bebo.com/fr1/17220802a378586143b244055992c163390667d20 I am using a service that keeps contact details current. Just update your own contact details and then the changes appear in selected friends' address books. When I update my contact details you will see them in your address book. Thank you for helping. Cheryl

I haven't posted my family interests in quite some time so I thought I would do so. Looking forward to hearing from any of you out there that might have connections - particularly to any Green families that might have been living in the Watford/Bushey ares (Melbourne Road) in the 1900's Judy BC Canada

Thank you to all the people that replied to my query on the ONANT/BROWN families and their different spellings etc. I will be following all these up Thanks so much Eunice ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia salter" <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] BROWN > Just a little bit more to add to this thread regarding Kitty Omant, I have > her baptism date as 14 April 1808, also George Spriggins 1835, Emily 1841, > Alfred 1844 and Mary Ann 1849 were all Kitty's (or Catherine's) illegitimate > children. The name has been spelt many different ways and I think that the > name originated as HAMMOND, but that's just my opinion at the moment until I > find some proof. > Regards > Patti > >

> Well thanks to Patricia from America, Janet from UK and Liz in Australia I have found a mystery on my family for which I thank them so very very much. > I now have to delve deeper through this > Eunice > Eunice have you seen this site http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/answers/answers-2002/ans-0235-omant.htm

Well thanks to Patricia from America, Janet from UK and Liz in Australia I have found a mystery on my family for which I thank them so very very much. I now have to delve deeper through this Eunice