Dear Listers, To save anyone else the trouble of writing, I wanted to let you know that I've been helped with my two questions on parish churches. Thank you! Joan in Canada

Dear Listers, Would anyone be able to tell me the name of Royston Parish Church please? Thank you! Joan Canada

Dear Listers, Would anyone be able to tell me the name of Sandon Parish church please? Thank you! Joan Canada

I hope you get a reply, but few people were on the phone at that time. Your only safe bet is probably the marriage cert. Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > I am trying to find where my grandfather William Stacey may have been > living in Hoddesdon between 1918 and 1928 when my mother was born. > I suspect he was living in Hoddesdon and may be listed as a telephonist in > one or more directories covering that period, Can anyone help please? > regards

Hi, I am trying to find where my grandfather William Stacey may have been living in Hoddesdon between 1918 and 1928 when my mother was born. I suspect he was living in Hoddesdon and may be listed as a telephonist in one or more directories covering that period, Can anyone help please? regards Bob Campbell Brisbane

Hi Sue, I would think a farmer at the age of 72 would be an Ag labourer, agriculture.. meaning farming. Also when peoples occupation was noted in the census, it was not always stated by the person themselves. In my case of blacksmiths, they were also called farriers, smithys and iron mongers. I have just discovered that my Great Great Grandfather said he was a widow in the 1871 census, in fact his wife did not die until 1874. In 1871 he was 71 years of age and his death certificate in 1880 stated he died from senile decay.. I would think that senility had set in by 1871 or he had been separated from his wife for so long that he thought he was a widow, or others around him assumed he was a widow. His wife had not lived with him since 1861, according to census information but with their daughter in a different county. Cheers Gay O'Neill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Waller" <coriander_1@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: [HRT] Joseph GEARY - Great Berkhamstead > I've recently discovered that Kezia WALLER last seen in the 1841 Census of > Two Waters, Hemel Hempstead married Joseph GEARY born in > Gt.Berkhamstead.c.1821. They had two children before they sailed to NSW > on the 'Thomas Artbuthnot' on 17 January 1849. > >>From the information I've been given (transcription of Joseph's death from >>NSW Registry of BMD's) Joseph's father's name was also Joseph and he was a >>'Farmer'. > > I'm unable to find a baptism for Joseph GEARY and the 1861 Census only has > 'GEARY' names born in Northchurch which is of course possible as the two > places are so close together. There is a Joseph GEARY aged 72 (widower) > lodging with a family in Bushey although he says he's an ag.lab. and not a > farmer. > > I'm hoping that someone will have access to the 1841 Census when I should > find Joseph at home with his parents. > > Many thanks for any help. > > Sue (Kent) > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.7/20 - Release Date: 16/06/2005

Thanks Judy, I have found that Watford Museum (didn't even know there was one) has some Workhouse births and deaths registers and punishment book. (This is from Archon) I have now emailed them asking how if I can find out, at a distance, if they have anything on James BELCH. Their site doesn't say they do research but if they have an archive then they should allow public assess-I assume!!! Will see what they say, then try LMA as the next port of call. Sherry A Lot of the records for HALS is now being stored at London Metropolitan Archives.

Hi, My grandfather was put in care aged 2 years old along with his brothers as his mother died 1916 and there father was away at war they stayed there for some years. They were put in a home in Watford. Any ideas how i can find out were ? Thanks. Keith in Malta.

Jill, I did a search on Ancestry.com for an ELIZABETH STURGEON born about 1892 in England. I came up with 2 hits in the England & Wales Civil Registration Index. Here are the results if you want to order the birth certificate from the GRO to find out positive her parents and possibly the place of birth. Name: Sturgeon, Elizabeth Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1892 District: Hertford County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 544 Name: Sturgeon, Elizabeth Ann Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1892 District: London City County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 2 Here's the marriage info I found for ALFRED STURGEON to ELIZABETH FRENCH Quarter: March Year: 1892 District: Edmonton County: Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex Volume 3a Page 360 I didn't find a listing for the death of Alfred Sturgeon in 1893. Could not find Elizabeth Sturgeon mother or daughter in the 1901 census. This probably isn't what you were hoping for, but the best I could do. Hope someone else may come along and do a better job for you. Good luck in the hunt! Theresa E. Smith Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA -------------- Original message -------------- > I am looking for details of Elizabeth Sturgeon born June 1892 in Hertford. > I am not sure if this is the right Elizabeth Sturgeon. The Elizabeth > Sturgeon I want had a father Alfred born about 1871 and died about 1893 and > mother Elizabeth French. We do not know where our Elizabeth was born - > hence the confusion. Can anyone help please? > Thanks Jill from Adelaide. > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or > unsubscribe. >

Thank you so much, Ron. You are an absolute star (and an angel). Sherry Try this site for workhouses http://www.users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouses/watford I have telephoned Watford Centra Library and no inmate records survived but the 1871 census will show all inmates and they have meetings records but the would mean searching through the records to see if the person you want is mentioned

Hi Sherry Try this site for workhouses http://www.users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouses/watford I have telephoned Watford Centra Library and no inmate records survived but the 1871 census will show all inmates and they have meetings records but the would mean searching through the records to see if the person you want is mentioned I hope this gives some information you require. Regards Ron Newland Ruislip Middlesex UK NEWLAND & COLLER family history > Hi, > > I am a returning subscriber who has been away for quite a while. I have recently found an ancestor in Watford Workhouse in 1871. My first thought > was to email Watford Library to enquire if they have these records. > > I went to the Herts. Website but there is nothing there about the local studies/history section of Watford Central Library. Can anyone advise me-has > it closed, is everything now at HALS (because talking to them is VERY protracted- I already have a query with them re St Albans Gaol regarding a > BKM ancestor)? > > Any help at all would be great. > > Best wishes > Sherry Landa (Salford LAN) >

Hi, I am a returning subscriber who has been away for quite a while. I have recently found an ancestor in Watford Workhouse in 1871. My first thought was to email Watford Library to enquire if they have these records. I went to the Herts. Website but there is nothing there about the local studies/history section of Watford Central Library. Can anyone advise me-has it closed, is everything now at HALS (because talking to them is VERY protracted- I already have a query with them re St Albans Gaol regarding a BKM ancestor)? Any help at all would be great. Best wishes Sherry Landa (Salford LAN)

Sherry: A Lot of the records for HALS is now being stored at London Metropolitan Archives. I know this because I spent 4 years looking for my husband's adoption records, constantly being told they could be obtained through HALS (as he was born in Watford), talking to everyone, I am sure, that works there and yet still nothing. It was simply by sure luck I found them at LMA -give it a try Judy BC Canada ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sherry Landa" <sherry@slanda.fsnet.co.uk> Reply-To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Watford Workhouse records Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:20:53 +0100 Hi, I am a returning subscriber who has been away for quite a while. I have recently found an ancestor in Watford Workhouse in 1871. My first thought was to email Watford Library to enquire if they have these records. I went to the Herts. Website but there is nothing there about the local studies/history section of Watford Central Library. Can anyone advise me-has it closed, is everything now at HALS (because talking to them is VERY protracted- I already have a query with them re St Albans Gaol regarding a BKM ancestor)? Any help at all would be great. Best wishes Sherry Landa (Salford LAN) ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

I am looking for details of Elizabeth Sturgeon born June 1892 in Hertford. I am not sure if this is the right Elizabeth Sturgeon. The Elizabeth Sturgeon I want had a father Alfred born about 1871 and died about 1893 and mother Elizabeth French. We do not know where our Elizabeth was born - hence the confusion. Can anyone help please? Thanks Jill from Adelaide.

Many thanks to all on the list who responded to my query, I think I have replied to you all individually. My contact and I are now many steps further ahead. Melissa Zimmerman Hertfordshire names: CAMPKIN, ELLIOTT, TIDD, BULL

Has anyone any interest in the PARKER or CATLIN surnames in Ardeley or Wyddial areas. What I have is; 1. MARY PARKER (b.Abt 1710-Herts) spouse JOHN CATLIN (m.10 Feb 1729) |-2. Ann CATLIN (a.16 May 1731-Ardeley,Herts) |-2. Mary CATLIN (a.22 Apr 1733-Ardeley,Herts) |-2. William CATLIN (a.8 Jun 1735-Ardeley,Herts) | sp: UNKNOWN |-2. John CATLIN (a.24 Jul 1737-Ardeley,Herts) | sp: Susannah BUNYAN (m.23 Dec 1766) | |-3. Thomas CATLIN (a.7 Feb 1772-Ardeley,Herts) | +-3. Marianne CATLIN (a.14 Jun 1807) |-2. Elizabeth CATLIN (a.24 Dec 1738-Ardeley,Herts) |-2. JA CATLIN (a.28 Feb 1741-Ardeley,Herts) |-2. Joseph CATLIN (a.7 Nov 1743-Ardeley,Herts) | sp: Grace HEADS (a.24 Oct 1742-Ardeley,Herts m.26 Feb 1770) | |-3. Elizabeth CATLIN (a.6 May 1770-Ardeley,Herts d.Bef 1780) | |-3. Joseph CATLIN (a.8 Dec 1771-Ardeley,Herts) | | sp: Mary CORKETT (m.28 Dec 1794) | | sp: Sarah BUCK (m.15 Oct 1796) | |-3. William CATLIN (a.2 May 1773-(Y)ardeley,Herts) | | sp: Susannah SHEPHERD (a.Unknown-Bennington,Herts m.3 Jun 1793) | |-3. Grace CATLIN (a.26 Feb 1775-Ardeley,Herts d.Bef 1778) | |-3. Sarah CATLIN (a.10 Mar 1776-Ardeley,Herts) | | sp: Thomas LYLES (b.Kimpton,Herts m.8 Jan 1804) | |-3. Grace CATLIN (a.3 May 1778-Ardeley,Herts) | |-3. Elizabeth CATLIN (a.9 Apr 1780-Ardeley,Herts) | +-3. John CATLIN (a.21 Apr 1782-Ardeley,Herts) | sp: Susanna CURRELL (m.9 Oct 1805) |-2. James CATLIN (a.25 Dec 1745-Ardeley,Herts) |-2. Genny CATLIN (a.1 Nov 1747-Ardeley,Herts) +-2. Thomas CATLIN (a.8 Jul 1750-Ardeley,Herts) [also; Buck, Bunyan, Corkett, Currell, Heads, Lyles, Shepherd, ]

I've recently discovered that Kezia WALLER last seen in the 1841 Census of Two Waters, Hemel Hempstead married Joseph GEARY born in Gt.Berkhamstead.c.1821. They had two children before they sailed to NSW on the 'Thomas Artbuthnot' on 17 January 1849. From the information I've been given (transcription of Joseph's death from NSW Registry of BMD's) Joseph's father's name was also Joseph and he was a 'Farmer'. I'm unable to find a baptism for Joseph GEARY and the 1861 Census only has 'GEARY' names born in Northchurch which is of course possible as the two places are so close together. There is a Joseph GEARY aged 72 (widower) lodging with a family in Bushey although he says he's an ag.lab. and not a farmer. I'm hoping that someone will have access to the 1841 Census when I should find Joseph at home with his parents. Many thanks for any help. Sue (Kent)

Hiya, I wonder if anyone could help me please, I have been searching the 1841 census for a THOMAS HUDGELL aged about 18 from Hertford St Andrews and I cant find him at all in that area, is it just my eyes or could anyone else please help me to find him, 3 years later in 1844 he was convicted of a crime and transported but died on the ship on the way out to Tasmania aged 22, I believe he is my direct line, therefore it would make all the difference if I could find him in 1844 with his family, any help if you had time would be much appreciated, thanks so much, Pam www.hudgill.co.uk

I have two photographs of Old Park Road Hitchin. One shows the junction with Paynes Park in 1895 and the other portrays the Waggon and Horses pub on the corner with Tilehouse Street 1970 before the County Court was built. Are these of any interest? Hitchin Museum has a grand collection of old photographs which may include Old Park Road. They allow digital photography and I beleive they will copy photos for you. Philip

Can anyone on this list tell me if this road is still there at all or has it been demolished. If not is there any web sites that i can see a picture of these houses please Thanks Eunice