----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon" <ssusmol@yahoo.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] New Virus Warning >I thought posting virus warnings to the list was > against the rules. > > Sharon > --- whitr <corineous@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> VERY IMPORTANT WARNING!!! >> >> PLEASE BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL ESPECIALLY IF USING >> INTERNET MAIL SUCH AS YAHOO, >> HOTMAIL, AOL AND SO ON. THIS INFORMATION ARRIVED >> THIS M0RNING FROM MICROSOFT >> AND NORTON. PLEASE SEND IT TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW WHO >> ACCESSES THE INTERNET. >> >> YOU MAY RECEIVE AN APPARENTLY HARMLESS EMAIL WITH A >> POWER POINT PRESENTATION >> "LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL. PPS". IF YOU RECEIVE IT DO NOT >> OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY >> CIRCUMSTANCES, AND DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY. IF YOU >> OPEN THIS FILE, A MESSAGE >> WILL APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN SAYING: "IT IS TOO LATE >> NOW, YOUR LIFE IS NO >> LONGER BEAUTIFUL", SUBSEQUENTLY YOU WILL LOSE >> EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC AND THE >> PERSON WHO SENT IT TO YOU GAIN ACCESS TO YOUR NAME, >> E-MAIL AND PASSWORD. >> THIS IS A NEW VIRUS WHICH STARTED TO CIRCULATE ON >> SATURDAY AFTERNOON. WE >> NEED TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO STOP THIS VIRUS. >> AOL HAS ALREADY CONFIRMED >> THE SEVERITY, AND THE ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE'S ARE NOT >> CAPABLE OF DESTROYING IT. >> THE VIRUS HAS BEEN CREATED BY A HACKER WHO CALLS >> HIMSELF "LIFE OWNER". >> PLEASE MAKE A COPY OF THIS EMAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS >> AND PASS IT ON >> IMMEDIATELY. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

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VERY IMPORTANT WARNING!!! PLEASE BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL ESPECIALLY IF USING INTERNET MAIL SUCH AS YAHOO, HOTMAIL, AOL AND SO ON. THIS INFORMATION ARRIVED THIS M0RNING FROM MICROSOFT AND NORTON. PLEASE SEND IT TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW WHO ACCESSES THE INTERNET. YOU MAY RECEIVE AN APPARENTLY HARMLESS EMAIL WITH A POWER POINT PRESENTATION "LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL. PPS". IF YOU RECEIVE IT DO NOT OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY. IF YOU OPEN THIS FILE, A MESSAGE WILL APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN SAYING: "IT IS TOO LATE NOW, YOUR LIFE IS NO LONGER BEAUTIFUL", SUBSEQUENTLY YOU WILL LOSE EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC AND THE PERSON WHO SENT IT TO YOU GAIN ACCESS TO YOUR NAME, E-MAIL AND PASSWORD. THIS IS A NEW VIRUS WHICH STARTED TO CIRCULATE ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON. WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO STOP THIS VIRUS. AOL HAS ALREADY CONFIRMED THE SEVERITY, AND THE ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE'S ARE NOT CAPABLE OF DESTROYING IT. THE VIRUS HAS BEEN CREATED BY A HACKER WHO CALLS HIMSELF "LIFE OWNER". PLEASE MAKE A COPY OF THIS EMAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PASS IT ON IMMEDIATELY.

I thought posting virus warnings to the list was against the rules. Sharon --- whitr <corineous@btinternet.com> wrote: > VERY IMPORTANT WARNING!!! > > PLEASE BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL ESPECIALLY IF USING > INTERNET MAIL SUCH AS YAHOO, > HOTMAIL, AOL AND SO ON. THIS INFORMATION ARRIVED > THIS M0RNING FROM MICROSOFT > AND NORTON. PLEASE SEND IT TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW WHO > ACCESSES THE INTERNET. > > YOU MAY RECEIVE AN APPARENTLY HARMLESS EMAIL WITH A > POWER POINT PRESENTATION > "LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL. PPS". IF YOU RECEIVE IT DO NOT > OPEN THE FILE UNDER ANY > CIRCUMSTANCES, AND DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY. IF YOU > OPEN THIS FILE, A MESSAGE > WILL APPEAR ON YOUR SCREEN SAYING: "IT IS TOO LATE > NOW, YOUR LIFE IS NO > LONGER BEAUTIFUL", SUBSEQUENTLY YOU WILL LOSE > EVERYTHING IN YOUR PC AND THE > PERSON WHO SENT IT TO YOU GAIN ACCESS TO YOUR NAME, > E-MAIL AND PASSWORD. > THIS IS A NEW VIRUS WHICH STARTED TO CIRCULATE ON > SATURDAY AFTERNOON. WE > NEED TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO STOP THIS VIRUS. > AOL HAS ALREADY CONFIRMED > THE SEVERITY, AND THE ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE'S ARE NOT > CAPABLE OF DESTROYING IT. > THE VIRUS HAS BEEN CREATED BY A HACKER WHO CALLS > HIMSELF "LIFE OWNER". > PLEASE MAKE A COPY OF THIS EMAIL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS > AND PASS IT ON > IMMEDIATELY. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi lists, First apologies if you receive this more than once. UKBMD are conducting a survey about the possibility of placing actual Birth, Marriage and Death certificates on line. I thought some of you may be interested in completing the survey. The link to the site is at the bottom of this email. Sandra Dear all, UKBMD has been asked to seek the opinions of its users. There's a survey linked from the home page which I hope you will take the time to answer. If you could see birth, marriage and deaths certificates on-line, would you prefer to see the original register entries held by the local register offices, or the secondary copy held by the GRO? Don't answer here -- please fill in the survey. Please cross-post this to any other list that you believe to be relevant. -- regards, Ian Hartas -------------------------------- UK-BMD : http://www.UKBMD.org.uk Subscribe to the GEN-UKBMD list.

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Hiya Bev thanks for that, yes they have been very helpful to me on quite a few occasions, I've also phoned them once and was very helpful indeed. Pam www.hudgill.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Wadhams" <Bev.Wadhams@tesco.net> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: [HRT] Hertfordshire Archives > You can contact Hertfordshire Archives (HALS) on line for searches. You > can > either pay then in advance or they wil bill you after, you can send a > cheque > or pay by card. I have got three lots of information from them now. They > are really very helpful. and respond very quickly. > Bev > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Hiya, Has anyone got the CD with the Hertfordshire County Records - Sessions Rolls 1581-1894 (Reference #0891-S) please I need one thing looking up please if possible, unfortunately I am unable to go to the Records Office myself but will gladly help with any lookups I can do in return, I have quite a few records for the Hertfordshire area, Any help really appreciated, Thanks so much, Pam www.hudgill.co.uk

You can contact Hertfordshire Archives (HALS) on line for searches. You can either pay then in advance or they wil bill you after, you can send a cheque or pay by card. I have got three lots of information from them now. They are really very helpful. and respond very quickly. Bev

On 06/07/05, Rita Lidstone <rita@bjrlid.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, please could someone tell me the address for the Bedfordshire list. Attempts to join have all been returned. > Many thanks, Rita > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > You are now on the list -- hugh admin papatoetoe, new zealand http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw

Hi Mike Thanks for looking. I thought the 1851 was indexed so sorry for asking the impossible. When I was in HALS last year on a visit I found some indexed lists for the 1851 in Ware and was able to locate my PAGE lot in it. But that must have been a one off transcription by someone/ Once more apologies. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Chaney" <michaelchaney@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] 1851 census look up FLACK > Oops! > > > You can buy the complete scanned census for Herts (4 CDs) - and many other > > counties - from www.mycensus.com > > That should have read www.mycensuses.com > > Mike > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Oops! > You can buy the complete scanned census for Herts (4 CDs) - and many other > counties - from www.mycensus.com That should have read www.mycensuses.com Mike

Yvonne.... > I wonder if anyone with the 1851 census for Ware could check and see if > Alfred FLACK born 1834 in Ware is still living in the town or anywhere > else in Herts for that matter !!! The 1851 census for Herts is for the most part neither transcribed or indexed so a county-wide search is rather a long job. I did however do a rapid scan through the eight films for the town of Ware (some of them barely readable!) but found no sign of him. That doesn't mean he wasn't there, just that I didn't spot him. You can buy the complete scanned census for Herts (4 CDs) - and many other counties - from www.mycensus.com Mike

Hiya, Is anyone going to the Hertfordshire Archives & Local Studies, at the County Hall, Hertford, Herts., anytime soon that could please look up a Quarter sessions record for me please, I would really appreciate it if someone could please, Pam www.hudgill.co.uk

Hi List Corrected listing: Back for another try at tracing my FLECKNOE ancestors. I am trying to trace William Flecknoe who may have lived and worked around TRING in the 1920 / 1930 's. He is my great uncle and believe he worked with my grandfather Ewart Davis. One or both of them may have been involved with: Wright and Trigg of Tring Cattle truck and Body Builder and Kempster of Tring My grandfather, who drove for the Cement Company in Pitstone, and grandmother Florence (Florrie Flecknoe) lived in Ivinghoe and Pitstone before they died. Catherine Vincent, nee Davis

Sorry all, I am getting my familioes mixed up see new listing Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Vincent" <kate@allvincents.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: [HRT] CRANG > Hi list > > Back for another try at tracing my CRANG ancestors. > > I am trying to trace William Crang who may have lived and worked around TRING in the 1920 / 1930 's. > > He is my great uncle and believe he worked with my grandfather Ewart Davis. > > One or both of them may have been involved with: > > Wright and Trigg of Tring Cattle truck and Body Builder > > and > > Kempster of Tring > > My grandfather, who drove for the Cement Company in Pitstone, and grandmother Florence (Florrie Flecknoe) lived in Ivinghoe and Pitstone before they died. > > Catherine Vincent, nee Davis > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

Hi list Back for another try at tracing my CRANG ancestors. I am trying to trace William Crang who may have lived and worked around TRING in the 1920 / 1930 's. He is my great uncle and believe he worked with my grandfather Ewart Davis. One or both of them may have been involved with: Wright and Trigg of Tring Cattle truck and Body Builder and Kempster of Tring My grandfather, who drove for the Cement Company in Pitstone, and grandmother Florence (Florrie Flecknoe) lived in Ivinghoe and Pitstone before they died. Catherine Vincent, nee Davis

There are a couple of wills for Joseph Geary on http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse-refine.asp?CatID=6&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1 including; Will of Mary Geary, Spinster of Watford, Hertfordshire 23 November 1797 PROB 11/1298 Will of John Geary, Yeoman of Tring, Hertfordshire 09 December 1696 PROB 11/435 Will of Gilbert Geary, Gentleman of Bovingdon , Hertfordshire 17 June 1775 PROB 11/1008 Will of Sarah Geary, Widow of Harpenden , Hertfordshire 03 September 1774 PROB 11/1001 Will of Jeremiah Geary, Blacksmith of Watford , Hertfordshire 19 October 1791 PROB 11/1209 Will of Joseph Geary, Butcher of Berkhampstead Saint Peter , Hertfordshire 30 April 1822 PROB 11/1655 If there is a problem with the Registers they may be held at National Archives at Kew and deposited as non-conformists [a matter of National Security against subversive elements as such were considered] Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Waller" <coriander_1@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: [HRT] Joseph GEARY - Berkhamstead > Does anyone have a Joseph GEARY in their tree please? Born c.1816 in > Berkhamstead > Father: Joseph > Occupation: Farmer > > They were Baptists. > > Joseph & his wife, Kezia (nee WALLER) sailed for NSW in 1849. > > I'm trying to find his family for Australian descendants who are visiting > the UK in August. > > Thank you, > Sue (Kent) > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. >

Does anyone have a Joseph GEARY in their tree please? Born c.1816 in Berkhamstead Father: Joseph Occupation: Farmer They were Baptists. Joseph & his wife, Kezia (nee WALLER) sailed for NSW in 1849. I'm trying to find his family for Australian descendants who are visiting the UK in August. Thank you, Sue (Kent)

Hi Gay thank you for this it was really interesting I know my Mary Warner husband died but they where both on the 1851 census , missing off the 61 so I just thought both had died till I starting looking for Warner's on the 61 Thanks Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gay O'Neill" <gayoneill@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 3:42 AM Subject: [HRT] Hertford workhouse > Hi Casey, > I also found my George Lines in the Barnet Workhouse in 1880 where he > died. > George was originally from Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire, born 1799. > He turned up in Ridge, Hertfordshire in 1861 - now separated from his wife > Ann who was living in Surrey with her daughter and her daughters family > and also her Grand daughter from another child. > Living in Ridge was Georges son and very close Ridge in South Mimms was > another son and also close, living in Whetstone was another son. > George was also living in Ridge in 1871. Now he says he is a widow - but > his wife Ann is still in Surrey, very much alive. > So I also wondered; why did George finish his days in a Workhouse? > To Quote from the book Historic Barnet - 5th edition, edited by W.H. > Gelder. > People went into the workhouse for various reasons and usually in a > pitiable condition, all noted down in the appropriate column. There were > the old and the ill, the lame and infirm, the deaf and the blind or > weak-sighted, and those who had suffered a stroke or had cancer or were > rheumaticky. There were also those of a mental condition described > variously as 'weak intellect', 'weak head', imbecile's or simply 'idiot'. > Deserted wives often ended up in workhouses especially if they had young > children or were pregnant and couldn't support themselves. > The terms 'tramp' and the term 'bastard' were in common use. People > gripped by the 'drink' were also admitted. Children very young were > assigned often as a labourer and sent to work (In fact it was a friend of > the author Charles Dickens who visited the Barnet workhouse and was there > when a child asked for more - the reaction was as shown in the Oliver > Twist movie) > Of course those with what was then called a mental illness often ended up > in an Asylum. Then they would be called Lunatics. > Occupations entered are of all kinds. Misfortune struck seemingly at > random and included the following: a beadle, a pot-boy, a haymaker, a > footman, a ploughman, a shoemaker, a blacksmith, a cattle-driver, a > chimney-sweep , and a washerwoman. > To finish this, a final quote: > "We might call them the dead unlucky and the lucky dead, for life which > led to the workhouse was scarcely worth living.! > Hope this has been informative > Gay O'Neill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cassy" <cassyfranklin@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:14 AM > Subject: [HRT] Hertford workhouse > > >> Hi All Can anyone give me any info on Hertford workhouse, please >> I found my grandmother in there on the 1861 census Mary Warner , (maiden >> name Fitzjohn ) Is the building still up and are they any details >> on line about it Also I cant understand why she was in there ,has she had >> many children Cheers >> Cassy > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 4/07/2005 > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 04/07/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 06/07/2005