Thank you, Sue, I will try what you suggest. Regards, Beryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Rowe" <suerowe10@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 4:39 AM Subject: [HRT] Drain Covers > Hi > > Maybe the local Council has records. It may be that a contract to supply > drain covers was tendered for. It would be surprising if there wasn't a > Sewerage or Drainage Dept which had a record because of the obvious > quantity and ongoing need involved. > > Another area where there may be records is in the manufacture of the drain > covers. Were they steel/iron? You may be able to track down the foundry or > wherever they were made. > > Lastly, I believe there would be someone who even collects such items. I > don't know how you would find out, but a local Museum may be able to help, > or even one of the bigger London Museums. You may even be able to find an > example of one of the drain covers, or a picture of one somewhere, through > researching the history of drainage and sewerage. It is amazing what > people write books about. > > Hope you find what you are looking for. > > Sue R in Oz (formerly of Enfield, Middx) > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > encouraged. > >

Hi Chris, You may like to look at my site. I have used excel to keep the various data that I have found over the years and share it with other researchers. I must admit that I have not up-dated it for a while but I believe it has been helpful to others to find LINES information in Hertfordshire and to then find me. The database contains the excel LINES information for all the LINES I have found including my ancestors and others that I have not tied into my direct family. I then have a couple of other word documents relating to my family. I do not have the greatest computing skills but one day will get back to the database and improve it.. I guess that will be when I have retired. http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~lines/ Gay O'Neill Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <cretwop@shaw.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? > Sandra - could you advise what kind of structure you use for your Excel > sheet? I have tried to imagine what one would look like but got quickly > overwhelmed. Also, is there a program to convert GEDCOMS to Excel? > > Chris Powter in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra J Smith" <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? > > >> Hi Theresa, >> I have been doing a one-name study of the surname FOSKETT plus variants >> for over 30 years. I am no longer a member of GOONS (Guild of >> one-name-studies) as I couldnt justify the cost of a year's membership. >> However, at one time they did have a ruling about the minimum amount of >> information one should attain in order to participate: >> From memory this included, >> All entries from the GRO Indices of Births, Marriage and Deaths from >> 1837. >> All entries from the PCC wills index >> All entries from current telephone directories (this I never did as I >> couldnt really see the relevance to my genealogical research.) >> I am sure there is a far more up todate list now which would include IGI, >> online census returns, etc. >> >> Although like you, I have tried to create gedcom files for all my >> information, I find it far more useful to maintain the data in excel >> spreadsheet files which I can sort in anyway I wish - far more flexible >> than most Genealogy programs. >> My own list, which is far from complete but gives you a general idea is >> as follows: >> <>GENERAL REGISTRATION >> >> * GRO BIRTHS ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * GRO MARRIAGES ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * GRO DEATH ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH CERTIFICATES >> >> >> PARISH REGISTERS >> >> * BEDFORDSHIRE >> * BUCKINGHAMSHIRE >> * CAMBRIDGESHIRE >> * DEVON >> * ESSEX >> * GLOUCESTERSHIRE >> * HEREFORDSHIRE >> * HERTFORDSHIRE >> * HUNTINGDONSHIRE >> * KENT >> * LANCASHIRE >> * LEICESTERSHIRE >> * LINCOLNSHIRE >> * LONDON >> * MIDDLESEX >> * NORTHAMPTONSHIRE >> * OXFORDSHIRE >> * SURREY >> * SUSSEX >> * WARWICKSHIRE >> * MISCELLANEOUS >> >> CENSUS >> >> * 1841 CENSUS >> * 1851 CENSUS >> * 1861 CENSUS >> * 1871 CENSUS >> * 1881 CENSUS >> * 1891 CENSUS >> * 1901 CENSUS >> >> OTHER BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH INFORMATION >> >> * PALLOTS MARRIAGE INDEX >> * PALLOTS BIRTH INDEX >> * VICAR GENERAL’S MARRIAGE LICENCES (INDEX) >> * BOYDS MARRIAGE INDEX >> * BRITISH VITAL RECORDS INDEX (1ST Edition) >> * BRITISH VIATL RECORDS INDEX (2ND Edition) >> * NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX (2ND Edition) >> * INTERNATIONAL GENEALOGICAL INDEX (IGI) >> >> MILITARY AND NAVAL RECORDS >> >> * COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISSION >> >> * WORLDWAR I MEDAL ROLLS >> * SOLDIERS WHO DIED IN THE GREAT WAR >> * ROLL OF THE GREAT WAR >> * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1914 – 1920 >> * SOLDIERS DISCHARGE TO PENSION 1914 – 1923 >> * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1883 – 1913 >> * SOLDIERS DISCHARGED TO PENSION 1883 – 1913 >> * ROYAL NAVY RATINGS 1853-1923 >> * QUEEN’S SOUTH AFRICAN MEDALS (CAVALRY) >> * AUSTRALIAN WW2 SERVICE RECORDS >> >> WILLS >> >> * INDICES >> * TRANSCRIPTIONS >> * NOTES >> >> LAY SUBSIDY ROLLS AND OTHER TAX LISTS >> >> TRADE DIRECTORIES AND POLL BOOKS >> >> MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS, OBITUARIES AND CEMETERY RECORDS >> >> * HIGHGATE CEMETERY, LONDON >> * ABNEY PARK CEMETERY, LONDON >> >> LONDON GAZETTE >> >> EMIGRATION >> >> * Ellis Island Immigration, USA >> * Castle Garden Immigration, USA >> * Unassisted Immigration to Victoria, Australia >> >> <>MEDIAEVAL RECORDS >> >> COATS OF ARMS >> >> MANOR ROLLS >> >> REFERENCES >> >> Dont let the length of the list stop you - I repeat - I have been doing >> this for 30 years >> >> Hope this helps >> >> Sandra Smith (nee FOSKETT) >> >> >> >> tesmith40@comcast.net wrote: >> >>>Hello everyone! >>> >>>I was wondering if anyone on this list has ever undertaken the job of a >>>ONE NAME SURNAME STUDY? That is to concentrate on just one surname and >>>gather all the records possible. Try to connect all lines. >>> >>>I'm thinking of trying this with one of my surnames *PEGRAM* and all >>>variations. Just wondering what kind of pitfalls to look for and try to >>>avoid....in other words anyone have any advice for me. I've started by >>>making a GEDCOM with just this family name and of course surnames from >>>marriages from the LDS microfilms of parish records. Is this what I want >>>to do....is this the best way to go? I'm going to use census records as >>>well for sources. What other record sources should I use....not sure if >>>wills would be available on film? >>> >>>The reason I'm thinking of this is because I had gaps in christening >>>records for my family line. I've been ordering microfilms from the LDS >>>for surrounding parishes and have filled in some of my gaps. Have found >>>2 transcription errors this way. Also these films have the burial >>>records and sometimes it helps me to eliminate possibilities for my >>>family line. I've still got some brickwalls but they are slowly coming >>>down. >>>Any advice will be appreciated. >>> >>>Theresa E. Smith >>>Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA >>> >>> >>>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >>>regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration >>>patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, >>>family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is >>>encouraged. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >> regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. 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Hi Chris, You may like to look at my site. I have used excel to keep the various data that I have found over the years and share it with other researchers. I must admit that I have not up-dated it for a while but I believe it has been helpful to others to find LINES information in Hertfordshire and to then find me. The database contains the excel LINES information for all the LINES I have found including my ancestors and others that I have not tied into my direct family. I then have a couple of other word documents relating to my family. I do not have the greatest computing skills but one day will get back to the database and improve it.. I guess that will be when I have retired. http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~lines/ Gay O'Neill Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <cretwop@shaw.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? > Sandra - could you advise what kind of structure you use for your Excel > sheet? I have tried to imagine what one would look like but got quickly > overwhelmed. Also, is there a program to convert GEDCOMS to Excel? > > Chris Powter in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra J Smith" <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? > > >> Hi Theresa, >> I have been doing a one-name study of the surname FOSKETT plus variants >> for over 30 years. I am no longer a member of GOONS (Guild of >> one-name-studies) as I couldnt justify the cost of a year's membership. >> However, at one time they did have a ruling about the minimum amount of >> information one should attain in order to participate: >> From memory this included, >> All entries from the GRO Indices of Births, Marriage and Deaths from >> 1837. >> All entries from the PCC wills index >> All entries from current telephone directories (this I never did as I >> couldnt really see the relevance to my genealogical research.) >> I am sure there is a far more up todate list now which would include IGI, >> online census returns, etc. >> >> Although like you, I have tried to create gedcom files for all my >> information, I find it far more useful to maintain the data in excel >> spreadsheet files which I can sort in anyway I wish - far more flexible >> than most Genealogy programs. >> My own list, which is far from complete but gives you a general idea is >> as follows: >> <>GENERAL REGISTRATION >> >> * GRO BIRTHS ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * GRO MARRIAGES ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * GRO DEATH ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH CERTIFICATES >> >> >> PARISH REGISTERS >> >> * BEDFORDSHIRE >> * BUCKINGHAMSHIRE >> * CAMBRIDGESHIRE >> * DEVON >> * ESSEX >> * GLOUCESTERSHIRE >> * HEREFORDSHIRE >> * HERTFORDSHIRE >> * HUNTINGDONSHIRE >> * KENT >> * LANCASHIRE >> * LEICESTERSHIRE >> * LINCOLNSHIRE >> * LONDON >> * MIDDLESEX >> * NORTHAMPTONSHIRE >> * OXFORDSHIRE >> * SURREY >> * SUSSEX >> * WARWICKSHIRE >> * MISCELLANEOUS >> >> CENSUS >> >> * 1841 CENSUS >> * 1851 CENSUS >> * 1861 CENSUS >> * 1871 CENSUS >> * 1881 CENSUS >> * 1891 CENSUS >> * 1901 CENSUS >> >> OTHER BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH INFORMATION >> >> * PALLOTS MARRIAGE INDEX >> * PALLOTS BIRTH INDEX >> * VICAR GENERAL’S MARRIAGE LICENCES (INDEX) >> * BOYDS MARRIAGE INDEX >> * BRITISH VITAL RECORDS INDEX (1ST Edition) >> * BRITISH VIATL RECORDS INDEX (2ND Edition) >> * NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX (2ND Edition) >> * INTERNATIONAL GENEALOGICAL INDEX (IGI) >> >> MILITARY AND NAVAL RECORDS >> >> * COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISSION >> >> * WORLDWAR I MEDAL ROLLS >> * SOLDIERS WHO DIED IN THE GREAT WAR >> * ROLL OF THE GREAT WAR >> * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1914 – 1920 >> * SOLDIERS DISCHARGE TO PENSION 1914 – 1923 >> * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1883 – 1913 >> * SOLDIERS DISCHARGED TO PENSION 1883 – 1913 >> * ROYAL NAVY RATINGS 1853-1923 >> * QUEEN’S SOUTH AFRICAN MEDALS (CAVALRY) >> * AUSTRALIAN WW2 SERVICE RECORDS >> >> WILLS >> >> * INDICES >> * TRANSCRIPTIONS >> * NOTES >> >> LAY SUBSIDY ROLLS AND OTHER TAX LISTS >> >> TRADE DIRECTORIES AND POLL BOOKS >> >> MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS, OBITUARIES AND CEMETERY RECORDS >> >> * HIGHGATE CEMETERY, LONDON >> * ABNEY PARK CEMETERY, LONDON >> >> LONDON GAZETTE >> >> EMIGRATION >> >> * Ellis Island Immigration, USA >> * Castle Garden Immigration, USA >> * Unassisted Immigration to Victoria, Australia >> >> <>MEDIAEVAL RECORDS >> >> COATS OF ARMS >> >> MANOR ROLLS >> >> REFERENCES >> >> Dont let the length of the list stop you - I repeat - I have been doing >> this for 30 years >> >> Hope this helps >> >> Sandra Smith (nee FOSKETT) >> >> >> >> tesmith40@comcast.net wrote: >> >>>Hello everyone! >>> >>>I was wondering if anyone on this list has ever undertaken the job of a >>>ONE NAME SURNAME STUDY? That is to concentrate on just one surname and >>>gather all the records possible. Try to connect all lines. >>> >>>I'm thinking of trying this with one of my surnames *PEGRAM* and all >>>variations. Just wondering what kind of pitfalls to look for and try to >>>avoid....in other words anyone have any advice for me. I've started by >>>making a GEDCOM with just this family name and of course surnames from >>>marriages from the LDS microfilms of parish records. Is this what I want >>>to do....is this the best way to go? I'm going to use census records as >>>well for sources. What other record sources should I use....not sure if >>>wills would be available on film? >>> >>>The reason I'm thinking of this is because I had gaps in christening >>>records for my family line. I've been ordering microfilms from the LDS >>>for surrounding parishes and have filled in some of my gaps. Have found >>>2 transcription errors this way. Also these films have the burial >>>records and sometimes it helps me to eliminate possibilities for my >>>family line. I've still got some brickwalls but they are slowly coming >>>down. >>>Any advice will be appreciated. >>> >>>Theresa E. Smith >>>Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA >>> >>> >>>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >>>regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration >>>patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, >>>family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is >>>encouraged. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >> regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. 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Hi Chris, I dont use excel to create family trees, just to store the base information and any notes I want to add. So for example my GROBirth file contains just the information that comes from the index, but I have added columns for father and mother's names. When I transfer the information to a gedcom, I colour the row, so that I know which ones have been included in the gedcom. I am proposing to add another column shortly to put the gedcom person number in too. The advantage in this example is that I can sort on year, name, place, father, mother or any combination. As far as conversion of gedcom to excel is concerned. if you type - Gedcom converter excel - into Google it will come up with a number of possibilities. You may have to do the conversion in two stages. First Gedcom to CSV and then import the CSV file into excel. Hope this helps Sandra Chris wrote: > Sandra - could you advise what kind of structure you use for your > Excel sheet? I have tried to imagine what one would look like but got > quickly overwhelmed. Also, is there a program to convert GEDCOMS to > Excel? > > Chris Powter in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" > <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? > > >> Hi Theresa, >> I have been doing a one-name study of the surname FOSKETT plus >> variants for over 30 years. I am no longer a member of GOONS (Guild >> of one-name-studies) as I couldnt justify the cost of a year's >> membership. However, at one time they did have a ruling about the >> minimum amount of information one should attain in order to participate: >> From memory this included, >> All entries from the GRO Indices of Births, Marriage and Deaths from >> 1837. >> All entries from the PCC wills index >> All entries from current telephone directories (this I never did as I >> couldnt really see the relevance to my genealogical research.) >> I am sure there is a far more up todate list now which would include >> IGI, online census returns, etc. >> >> Although like you, I have tried to create gedcom files for all my >> information, I find it far more useful to maintain the data in excel >> spreadsheet files which I can sort in anyway I wish - far more >> flexible than most Genealogy programs. >> My own list, which is far from complete but gives you a general idea >> is as follows: >> <>GENERAL REGISTRATION >> >> * GRO BIRTHS ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * GRO MARRIAGES ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * GRO DEATH ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >> >> * BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH CERTIFICATES >> >> >> PARISH REGISTERS >> >> * BEDFORDSHIRE >> * BUCKINGHAMSHIRE >> * CAMBRIDGESHIRE >> * DEVON >> * ESSEX >> * GLOUCESTERSHIRE >> * HEREFORDSHIRE >> * HERTFORDSHIRE >> * HUNTINGDONSHIRE >> * KENT >> * LANCASHIRE >> * LEICESTERSHIRE >> * LINCOLNSHIRE >> * LONDON >> * MIDDLESEX >> * NORTHAMPTONSHIRE >> * OXFORDSHIRE >> * SURREY >> * SUSSEX >> * WARWICKSHIRE >> * MISCELLANEOUS >> >> CENSUS >> >> * 1841 CENSUS >> * 1851 CENSUS >> * 1861 CENSUS >> * 1871 CENSUS >> * 1881 CENSUS >> * 1891 CENSUS >> * 1901 CENSUS >> >> OTHER BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH INFORMATION >> >> * PALLOTS MARRIAGE INDEX >> * PALLOTS BIRTH INDEX >> * VICAR GENERAL’S MARRIAGE LICENCES (INDEX) >> * BOYDS MARRIAGE INDEX >> * BRITISH VITAL RECORDS INDEX (1ST Edition) >> * BRITISH VIATL RECORDS INDEX (2ND Edition) >> * NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX (2ND Edition) >> * INTERNATIONAL GENEALOGICAL INDEX (IGI) >> >> MILITARY AND NAVAL RECORDS >> >> * COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISSION >> >> * WORLDWAR I MEDAL ROLLS >> * SOLDIERS WHO DIED IN THE GREAT WAR >> * ROLL OF THE GREAT WAR >> * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1914 – 1920 >> * SOLDIERS DISCHARGE TO PENSION 1914 – 1923 >> * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1883 – 1913 >> * SOLDIERS DISCHARGED TO PENSION 1883 – 1913 >> * ROYAL NAVY RATINGS 1853-1923 >> * QUEEN’S SOUTH AFRICAN MEDALS (CAVALRY) >> * AUSTRALIAN WW2 SERVICE RECORDS >> >> WILLS >> >> * INDICES >> * TRANSCRIPTIONS >> * NOTES >> >> LAY SUBSIDY ROLLS AND OTHER TAX LISTS >> >> TRADE DIRECTORIES AND POLL BOOKS >> >> MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS, OBITUARIES AND CEMETERY RECORDS >> >> * HIGHGATE CEMETERY, LONDON >> * ABNEY PARK CEMETERY, LONDON >> >> LONDON GAZETTE >> >> EMIGRATION >> >> * Ellis Island Immigration, USA >> * Castle Garden Immigration, USA >> * Unassisted Immigration to Victoria, Australia >> >> <>MEDIAEVAL RECORDS >> >> COATS OF ARMS >> >> MANOR ROLLS >> >> REFERENCES >> >> Dont let the length of the list stop you - I repeat - I have been >> doing this for 30 years >> >> Hope this helps >> >> Sandra Smith (nee FOSKETT) >> >> >> >> tesmith40@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone! >>> >>> I was wondering if anyone on this list has ever undertaken the job >>> of a ONE NAME SURNAME STUDY? That is to concentrate on just one >>> surname and gather all the records possible. Try to connect all lines. >>> >>> I'm thinking of trying this with one of my surnames *PEGRAM* and all >>> variations. Just wondering what kind of pitfalls to look for and >>> try to avoid....in other words anyone have any advice for me. I've >>> started by making a GEDCOM with just this family name and of course >>> surnames from marriages from the LDS microfilms of parish records. >>> Is this what I want to do....is this the best way to go? I'm going >>> to use census records as well for sources. What other record >>> sources should I use....not sure if wills would be available on film? >>> >>> The reason I'm thinking of this is because I had gaps in christening >>> records for my family line. I've been ordering microfilms from the >>> LDS for surrounding parishes and have filled in some of my gaps. >>> Have found 2 transcription errors this way. Also these films have >>> the burial records and sometimes it helps me to eliminate >>> possibilities for my family line. I've still got some brickwalls but >>> they are slowly coming down. >>> Any advice will be appreciated. >>> >>> Theresa E. Smith >>> Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >>> regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of >>> migration patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, >>> census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. >>> involving this area is encouraged. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >> regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of >> migration patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, >> census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. >> involving this area is encouraged. >> >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode > i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word > subscribe or unsubscribe. > > >

Hi Am new on this list. Just found an ancestor who lived in 1917 at 'Riley House'. Does anyone have any info about Riley House? His name was David WESTON b 1854 Staffs. I got the address of Riley House from the Herts Provincial Grand Lodge. David Weston was a member of the Herts Masonic Charity Commission, apparently. He was also a founder of the Welwyn Lodge. Is Welwyn close to Waltham Cross? Regards Sue R in Oz

Hi Sandra. the last sentence of my message should read. The only other Potter I could find in the( workhouse) was Mary. under 7ms or 17ms. Val. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Patterson" <prawm@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] POTTER sisters in 1891 > There is this entry though....... > Ashwell Station, Steeple Morden, Cambs > Charles CLEMENTS Head M 33 Gardener b Baldock, Herts > Hannah CLEMENTS Wife M 36 b Wisbech, Cambs > Frederick CLEMENTS Son 10 b Steeple Morden > Basil CLEMENTS Son 7 b Steeple Morden > Nora CLEMENTS Daur 4 b Steeple Morden > Nellie POTTER Visitor 3 b Royston, Cambs > > Just over the county boundary. > > Paula > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Val Thackray" <thackray@shaw.ca> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:43 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] POTTER sisters in 1891 > > >> Hi Sandra. >> >> Elizabeth Potter age 33. 1891 Census. Inmate at Workhouse, St Peters, >> Beds. >> Annie Potter. age 8. also Inmate. >> Beatrice Potter. age 5 also Inmate. >> The only other Potter I could find in the workhouse was a Mary ,age is >> hard to read ,looks like under 7 or 17ms? >> Hope this helps. >> Val. >> Calgary AB. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sandra Pidduck" <sigplat@sympatico.ca> >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:31 PM >> Subject: [HRT] POTTER sisters in 1891 >> >> >>> Hello >>> I have three sisters who I am trying to figure out when they went to the >>> US. >>> Their father Harper POTTER arrived in New York 1889 but he apparently >>> first went to Belgium. (Was going to Belgium first a common occurance?) >>> He did not travel with his wife, nor his children. By 1900 he was >>> widowed and living with his daughters in New Jersey. >>> >>> Could someone please check the 1891 and see if his wife is still living >>> at that time and if his children are still in England or if they went to >>> Belgium too? >>> >>> Annie Elizabeth POTTER born Nov 1883 (Royston) >>> Beatrice Emily POTTER born Jan 1886 (Royston) >>> Helen Margaret POTTER born Feb 1888 (Royston) >>> >>> His wife was Elizabeth CLEMENTS born c 1857 Baldock, Hert (Dau of >>> Charles and Elizabeth (COUCH?)CLEMENTS) >>> >>> Thank you so much >>> Sandra in Ontario >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> Hertfordshire FHS: >>> http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Thanks! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? > Hi Chris, > I dont use excel to create family trees, just to store the base > information and any notes I want to add. > So for example my GROBirth file contains just the information that comes > from the index, but I have added columns for father and mother's names. > When I transfer the information to a gedcom, I colour the row, so that I > know which ones have been included in the gedcom. I am proposing to add > another column shortly to put the gedcom person number in too. > The advantage in this example is that I can sort on year, name, place, > father, mother or any combination. > > As far as conversion of gedcom to excel is concerned. if you type - Gedcom > converter excel - into Google it will come up with a number of > possibilities. You may have to do the conversion in two stages. First > Gedcom to CSV and then import the CSV file into excel. > Hope this helps > Sandra > > Chris wrote: > >> Sandra - could you advise what kind of structure you use for your Excel >> sheet? I have tried to imagine what one would look like but got quickly >> overwhelmed. Also, is there a program to convert GEDCOMS to Excel? >> >> Chris Powter in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" >> <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? >> >> >>> Hi Theresa, >>> I have been doing a one-name study of the surname FOSKETT plus variants >>> for over 30 years. I am no longer a member of GOONS (Guild of >>> one-name-studies) as I couldnt justify the cost of a year's membership. >>> However, at one time they did have a ruling about the minimum amount of >>> information one should attain in order to participate: >>> From memory this included, >>> All entries from the GRO Indices of Births, Marriage and Deaths from >>> 1837. >>> All entries from the PCC wills index >>> All entries from current telephone directories (this I never did as I >>> couldnt really see the relevance to my genealogical research.) >>> I am sure there is a far more up todate list now which would include >>> IGI, online census returns, etc. >>> >>> Although like you, I have tried to create gedcom files for all my >>> information, I find it far more useful to maintain the data in excel >>> spreadsheet files which I can sort in anyway I wish - far more flexible >>> than most Genealogy programs. >>> My own list, which is far from complete but gives you a general idea is >>> as follows: >>> <>GENERAL REGISTRATION >>> >>> * GRO BIRTHS ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >>> >>> * GRO MARRIAGES ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >>> >>> * GRO DEATH ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 >>> >>> * BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH CERTIFICATES >>> >>> >>> PARISH REGISTERS >>> >>> * BEDFORDSHIRE >>> * BUCKINGHAMSHIRE >>> * CAMBRIDGESHIRE >>> * DEVON >>> * ESSEX >>> * GLOUCESTERSHIRE >>> * HEREFORDSHIRE >>> * HERTFORDSHIRE >>> * HUNTINGDONSHIRE >>> * KENT >>> * LANCASHIRE >>> * LEICESTERSHIRE >>> * LINCOLNSHIRE >>> * LONDON >>> * MIDDLESEX >>> * NORTHAMPTONSHIRE >>> * OXFORDSHIRE >>> * SURREY >>> * SUSSEX >>> * WARWICKSHIRE >>> * MISCELLANEOUS >>> >>> CENSUS >>> >>> * 1841 CENSUS >>> * 1851 CENSUS >>> * 1861 CENSUS >>> * 1871 CENSUS >>> * 1881 CENSUS >>> * 1891 CENSUS >>> * 1901 CENSUS >>> >>> OTHER BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH INFORMATION >>> >>> * PALLOTS MARRIAGE INDEX >>> * PALLOTS BIRTH INDEX >>> * VICAR GENERAL’S MARRIAGE LICENCES (INDEX) >>> * BOYDS MARRIAGE INDEX >>> * BRITISH VITAL RECORDS INDEX (1ST Edition) >>> * BRITISH VIATL RECORDS INDEX (2ND Edition) >>> * NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX (2ND Edition) >>> * INTERNATIONAL GENEALOGICAL INDEX (IGI) >>> >>> MILITARY AND NAVAL RECORDS >>> >>> * COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISSION >>> >>> * WORLDWAR I MEDAL ROLLS >>> * SOLDIERS WHO DIED IN THE GREAT WAR >>> * ROLL OF THE GREAT WAR >>> * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1914 – 1920 >>> * SOLDIERS DISCHARGE TO PENSION 1914 – 1923 >>> * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1883 – 1913 >>> * SOLDIERS DISCHARGED TO PENSION 1883 – 1913 >>> * ROYAL NAVY RATINGS 1853-1923 >>> * QUEEN’S SOUTH AFRICAN MEDALS (CAVALRY) >>> * AUSTRALIAN WW2 SERVICE RECORDS >>> >>> WILLS >>> >>> * INDICES >>> * TRANSCRIPTIONS >>> * NOTES >>> >>> LAY SUBSIDY ROLLS AND OTHER TAX LISTS >>> >>> TRADE DIRECTORIES AND POLL BOOKS >>> >>> MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS, OBITUARIES AND CEMETERY RECORDS >>> >>> * HIGHGATE CEMETERY, LONDON >>> * ABNEY PARK CEMETERY, LONDON >>> >>> LONDON GAZETTE >>> >>> EMIGRATION >>> >>> * Ellis Island Immigration, USA >>> * Castle Garden Immigration, USA >>> * Unassisted Immigration to Victoria, Australia >>> >>> <>MEDIAEVAL RECORDS >>> >>> COATS OF ARMS >>> >>> MANOR ROLLS >>> >>> REFERENCES >>> >>> Dont let the length of the list stop you - I repeat - I have been doing >>> this for 30 years >>> >>> Hope this helps >>> >>> Sandra Smith (nee FOSKETT) >>> >>> >>> >>> tesmith40@comcast.net wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone! >>>> >>>> I was wondering if anyone on this list has ever undertaken the job of a >>>> ONE NAME SURNAME STUDY? That is to concentrate on just one surname and >>>> gather all the records possible. Try to connect all lines. >>>> >>>> I'm thinking of trying this with one of my surnames *PEGRAM* and all >>>> variations. Just wondering what kind of pitfalls to look for and try >>>> to avoid....in other words anyone have any advice for me. I've started >>>> by making a GEDCOM with just this family name and of course surnames >>>> from marriages from the LDS microfilms of parish records. Is this what >>>> I want to do....is this the best way to go? I'm going to use census >>>> records as well for sources. What other record sources should I >>>> use....not sure if wills would be available on film? >>>> >>>> The reason I'm thinking of this is because I had gaps in christening >>>> records for my family line. I've been ordering microfilms from the LDS >>>> for surrounding parishes and have filled in some of my gaps. Have >>>> found 2 transcription errors this way. Also these films have the >>>> burial records and sometimes it helps me to eliminate possibilities for >>>> my family line. I've still got some brickwalls but they are slowly >>>> coming down. >>>> Any advice will be appreciated. >>>> >>>> Theresa E. Smith >>>> Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>>> This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >>>> regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration >>>> patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, >>>> wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this >>>> area is encouraged. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >>> regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration >>> patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, >>> wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area >>> is encouraged. >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> To POST a message to this list use the address: >> eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com >> 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: >> ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. >> receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or >> ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. >> receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) >> In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe >> or unsubscribe. >> >> >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

Sandra - could you advise what kind of structure you use for your Excel sheet? I have tried to imagine what one would look like but got quickly overwhelmed. Also, is there a program to convert GEDCOMS to Excel? Chris Powter in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? > Hi Theresa, > I have been doing a one-name study of the surname FOSKETT plus variants > for over 30 years. I am no longer a member of GOONS (Guild of > one-name-studies) as I couldnt justify the cost of a year's membership. > However, at one time they did have a ruling about the minimum amount of > information one should attain in order to participate: > From memory this included, > All entries from the GRO Indices of Births, Marriage and Deaths from 1837. > All entries from the PCC wills index > All entries from current telephone directories (this I never did as I > couldnt really see the relevance to my genealogical research.) > I am sure there is a far more up todate list now which would include IGI, > online census returns, etc. > > Although like you, I have tried to create gedcom files for all my > information, I find it far more useful to maintain the data in excel > spreadsheet files which I can sort in anyway I wish - far more flexible > than most Genealogy programs. > My own list, which is far from complete but gives you a general idea is as > follows: > <>GENERAL REGISTRATION > > * GRO BIRTHS ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 > > * GRO MARRIAGES ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 > > * GRO DEATH ENGLAND AND WALES 1837 – 2003 > > * BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH CERTIFICATES > > > PARISH REGISTERS > > * BEDFORDSHIRE > * BUCKINGHAMSHIRE > * CAMBRIDGESHIRE > * DEVON > * ESSEX > * GLOUCESTERSHIRE > * HEREFORDSHIRE > * HERTFORDSHIRE > * HUNTINGDONSHIRE > * KENT > * LANCASHIRE > * LEICESTERSHIRE > * LINCOLNSHIRE > * LONDON > * MIDDLESEX > * NORTHAMPTONSHIRE > * OXFORDSHIRE > * SURREY > * SUSSEX > * WARWICKSHIRE > * MISCELLANEOUS > > CENSUS > > * 1841 CENSUS > * 1851 CENSUS > * 1861 CENSUS > * 1871 CENSUS > * 1881 CENSUS > * 1891 CENSUS > * 1901 CENSUS > > OTHER BIRTH, MARRIAGE AND DEATH INFORMATION > > * PALLOTS MARRIAGE INDEX > * PALLOTS BIRTH INDEX > * VICAR GENERAL’S MARRIAGE LICENCES (INDEX) > * BOYDS MARRIAGE INDEX > * BRITISH VITAL RECORDS INDEX (1ST Edition) > * BRITISH VIATL RECORDS INDEX (2ND Edition) > * NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX (2ND Edition) > * INTERNATIONAL GENEALOGICAL INDEX (IGI) > > MILITARY AND NAVAL RECORDS > > * COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISSION > > * WORLDWAR I MEDAL ROLLS > * SOLDIERS WHO DIED IN THE GREAT WAR > * ROLL OF THE GREAT WAR > * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1914 – 1920 > * SOLDIERS DISCHARGE TO PENSION 1914 – 1923 > * SOLDIERS SERVICE PAPERS 1883 – 1913 > * SOLDIERS DISCHARGED TO PENSION 1883 – 1913 > * ROYAL NAVY RATINGS 1853-1923 > * QUEEN’S SOUTH AFRICAN MEDALS (CAVALRY) > * AUSTRALIAN WW2 SERVICE RECORDS > > WILLS > > * INDICES > * TRANSCRIPTIONS > * NOTES > > LAY SUBSIDY ROLLS AND OTHER TAX LISTS > > TRADE DIRECTORIES AND POLL BOOKS > > MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS, OBITUARIES AND CEMETERY RECORDS > > * HIGHGATE CEMETERY, LONDON > * ABNEY PARK CEMETERY, LONDON > > LONDON GAZETTE > > EMIGRATION > > * Ellis Island Immigration, USA > * Castle Garden Immigration, USA > * Unassisted Immigration to Victoria, Australia > > <>MEDIAEVAL RECORDS > > COATS OF ARMS > > MANOR ROLLS > > REFERENCES > > Dont let the length of the list stop you - I repeat - I have been doing > this for 30 years > > Hope this helps > > Sandra Smith (nee FOSKETT) > > > > tesmith40@comcast.net wrote: > >>Hello everyone! >> >>I was wondering if anyone on this list has ever undertaken the job of a >>ONE NAME SURNAME STUDY? That is to concentrate on just one surname and >>gather all the records possible. Try to connect all lines. >> >>I'm thinking of trying this with one of my surnames *PEGRAM* and all >>variations. Just wondering what kind of pitfalls to look for and try to >>avoid....in other words anyone have any advice for me. I've started by >>making a GEDCOM with just this family name and of course surnames from >>marriages from the LDS microfilms of parish records. Is this what I want >>to do....is this the best way to go? I'm going to use census records as >>well for sources. What other record sources should I use....not sure if >>wills would be available on film? >> >>The reason I'm thinking of this is because I had gaps in christening >>records for my family line. I've been ordering microfilms from the LDS >>for surrounding parishes and have filled in some of my gaps. Have found 2 >>transcription errors this way. Also these films have the burial records >>and sometimes it helps me to eliminate possibilities for my family line. >>I've still got some brickwalls but they are slowly coming down. >>Any advice will be appreciated. >> >>Theresa E. Smith >>Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA >> >> >>==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily >>regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration >>patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, >>family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is >>encouraged. >> >> >> >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > encouraged. > >

Theresa - I have undertaken a one-name-study of Powters. It is a great way to make connections with people all over the world! My task is relatively easy in that Powter is not widely common - mostly England, Australia and North America with a few outliers (South Africa, Argentina, some Europe). I started with the IGI records, went to other government sources (e.g., BMD sites) and then added census info. Some cautions (applicable to all genealogy work I suppose): * many of the early first names are common and there aren't many middle names so distinguishing people is difficult - your database grows even though many of the entries may in reality be the same people * one-name-study GEDCOMS are harder to work with, especially if you are a visual person, because lots of entries are not linked * it could get very expensive and time consuming if you want to do more than rely on web-based records Advice - put your study up on the web, on as many sites as you can, to get exposure to lots of people who may contact you with more info! Be prepared to have some ask why you are collecting info that isn't directly related to your own tree! So far I have managed to add only one person to my own tree from my one-name-study but I keep hoping! Chris Powter in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <tesmith40@comcast.net> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: [HRT] One Name Study - Question on how to do one? > Hello everyone! > > I was wondering if anyone on this list has ever undertaken the job of a > ONE NAME SURNAME STUDY? That is to concentrate on just one surname and > gather all the records possible. Try to connect all lines. > > I'm thinking of trying this with one of my surnames *PEGRAM* and all > variations. Just wondering what kind of pitfalls to look for and try to > avoid....in other words anyone have any advice for me. I've started by > making a GEDCOM with just this family name and of course surnames from > marriages from the LDS microfilms of parish records. Is this what I want > to do....is this the best way to go? I'm going to use census records as > well for sources. What other record sources should I use....not sure if > wills would be available on film? > > The reason I'm thinking of this is because I had gaps in christening > records for my family line. I've been ordering microfilms from the LDS > for surrounding parishes and have filled in some of my gaps. Have found 2 > transcription errors this way. Also these films have the burial records > and sometimes it helps me to eliminate possibilities for my family line. > I've still got some brickwalls but they are slowly coming down. > > Any advice will be appreciated. > > Theresa E. Smith > Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration > patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, > family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > encouraged. > >

It's a long shot, but would anyone know the name of a Drain cover manufacturer who lived in Herts. circa 1870? His name appeared on every drain cover at the time. In hope... Beryl Woodhead

There is this entry though....... Ashwell Station, Steeple Morden, Cambs Charles CLEMENTS Head M 33 Gardener b Baldock, Herts Hannah CLEMENTS Wife M 36 b Wisbech, Cambs Frederick CLEMENTS Son 10 b Steeple Morden Basil CLEMENTS Son 7 b Steeple Morden Nora CLEMENTS Daur 4 b Steeple Morden Nellie POTTER Visitor 3 b Royston, Cambs Just over the county boundary. Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Thackray" <thackray@shaw.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] POTTER sisters in 1891 > Hi Sandra. > > Elizabeth Potter age 33. 1891 Census. Inmate at Workhouse, St Peters, > Beds. > Annie Potter. age 8. also Inmate. > Beatrice Potter. age 5 also Inmate. > The only other Potter I could find was a Mary ,age is hard to read looks > like 17ms? > Hope this helps. > Val. > Calgary AB. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Pidduck" <sigplat@sympatico.ca> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:31 PM > Subject: [HRT] POTTER sisters in 1891 > > >> Hello >> I have three sisters who I am trying to figure out when they went to the >> US. >> Their father Harper POTTER arrived in New York 1889 but he apparently >> first went to Belgium. (Was going to Belgium first a common occurance?) >> He did not travel with his wife, nor his children. By 1900 he was widowed >> and living with his daughters in New Jersey. >> >> Could someone please check the 1891 and see if his wife is still living >> at that time and if his children are still in England or if they went to >> Belgium too? >> >> Annie Elizabeth POTTER born Nov 1883 (Royston) >> Beatrice Emily POTTER born Jan 1886 (Royston) >> Helen Margaret POTTER born Feb 1888 (Royston) >> >> His wife was Elizabeth CLEMENTS born c 1857 Baldock, Hert (Dau of Charles >> and Elizabeth (COUCH?)CLEMENTS) >> >> Thank you so much >> Sandra in Ontario >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Hertfordshire FHS: >> http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm >> >> > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

Can anyone help a friend. Does anyone know the name of a company making ropes in Dobbs Weir c1850s? Thanks Sheila

Hi Sandra. Sorry I forgot to mention Elizabeth was born in Baldock.Hts. and is a Dressmaker. Birth place for Annie & Beatrice is Royston and Mary's is blank. Val Calgary, AB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Pidduck" <sigplat@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:31 PM Subject: [HRT] POTTER sisters in 1891 > Hello > I have three sisters who I am trying to figure out when they went to the > US. > Their father Harper POTTER arrived in New York 1889 but he apparently > first went to Belgium. (Was going to Belgium first a common occurance?) He > did not travel with his wife, nor his children. By 1900 he was widowed and > living with his daughters in New Jersey. > > Could someone please check the 1891 and see if his wife is still living at > that time and if his children are still in England or if they went to > Belgium too? > > Annie Elizabeth POTTER born Nov 1883 (Royston) > Beatrice Emily POTTER born Jan 1886 (Royston) > Helen Margaret POTTER born Feb 1888 (Royston) > > His wife was Elizabeth CLEMENTS born c 1857 Baldock, Hert (Dau of Charles > and Elizabeth (COUCH?)CLEMENTS) > > Thank you so much > Sandra in Ontario > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Hi Sandra. Elizabeth Potter age 33. 1891 Census. Inmate at Workhouse, St Peters, Beds. Annie Potter. age 8. also Inmate. Beatrice Potter. age 5 also Inmate. The only other Potter I could find was a Mary ,age is hard to read looks like 17ms? Hope this helps. Val. Calgary AB. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Pidduck" <sigplat@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:31 PM Subject: [HRT] POTTER sisters in 1891 > Hello > I have three sisters who I am trying to figure out when they went to the > US. > Their father Harper POTTER arrived in New York 1889 but he apparently > first went to Belgium. (Was going to Belgium first a common occurance?) He > did not travel with his wife, nor his children. By 1900 he was widowed and > living with his daughters in New Jersey. > > Could someone please check the 1891 and see if his wife is still living at > that time and if his children are still in England or if they went to > Belgium too? > > Annie Elizabeth POTTER born Nov 1883 (Royston) > Beatrice Emily POTTER born Jan 1886 (Royston) > Helen Margaret POTTER born Feb 1888 (Royston) > > His wife was Elizabeth CLEMENTS born c 1857 Baldock, Hert (Dau of Charles > and Elizabeth (COUCH?)CLEMENTS) > > Thank you so much > Sandra in Ontario > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Hertfordshire FHS: > http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm > >

Hello I have three sisters who I am trying to figure out when they went to the US. Their father Harper POTTER arrived in New York 1889 but he apparently first went to Belgium. (Was going to Belgium first a common occurance?) He did not travel with his wife, nor his children. By 1900 he was widowed and living with his daughters in New Jersey. Could someone please check the 1891 and see if his wife is still living at that time and if his children are still in England or if they went to Belgium too? Annie Elizabeth POTTER born Nov 1883 (Royston) Beatrice Emily POTTER born Jan 1886 (Royston) Helen Margaret POTTER born Feb 1888 (Royston) His wife was Elizabeth CLEMENTS born c 1857 Baldock, Hert (Dau of Charles and Elizabeth (COUCH?)CLEMENTS) Thank you so much Sandra in Ontario

Hello List I am trying to find out where Eliza ROBINSON (born in c1834 Royston dau of Daniel and Sarah (Sell) ROBINSON was in 1851. I believe that she married Thomas POTTER circa 1857 as their first son was Thomas Robinson POTTER was born 1857 I am wondering if she was home with her parents in 1851. Would someone please check the 1851 census for me, if it is not too much trouble. Thanks so much. Sandra searching for POTTERs in Hertsfordshire.

Paula and List Thank you so much for the information. I was wondering where Southend was, as I was having trouble finding it in Middlesex. Would there be records for this school? Thanks again Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D Digest V05 #140

Hi Just a quick post to say hello and post my interests. I am researching my husbands tree at present having worked for years on my own and having met the inevitable brick walls. I am interested in any information concerning the Dowtons in Cottered. I like to go side ways on my trees filling in as many gaps as possible so any information would be gratefully received. thanks again regards Su brown

Looking at it the POTTER family are living next door to the Royston Schools National for Boys, Girls and Infants. National Schools were the schools set up by law to provide free education so Florence E POTTER may well have gone there. In faint writing after the Middlesex Southend is written 'Essex' which is the county Southend is actually in. There is no indication on the census return of who Flornce's parents were Paula > Hello > I am hoping that some of you knowledgeable souls can help me... I have the > POTTER family (apparently on the 1891 Census as DOLTER) who lives at > White Heart, Market Street, Royston. Source information: RG12/1102, ed 16, > folio 71, pg 20 They are reported to live beside the the Royston Schools > Nationals, for boys, girls and ???ords. Is this a School or otherwise. Are > there school records available? > > I have a Florence E. who was 8 (at the time born in Southend ?? Middlesex) > living with her Grandparent POTTERs (Thomas and Eliza) and their dau Mary > J and their son Harry. I am assuming that if this a school that Florence > would go there. I would like to confirm her last name and possibly find > out her parents. She may be the dau of Mary Jane. > > Thanks so much for any help > Sandra in Canada > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To POST a message to this list use the address: > > eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com > > 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. > receiving > the messages individually or want them individually) or > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. > receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Hello I am hoping that some of you knowledgeable souls can help me... I have the POTTER family (apparently on the 1891 Census as DOLTER) who lives at White Heart, Market Street, Royston. Source information: RG12/1102, ed 16, folio 71, pg 20 They are reported to live beside the the Royston Schools Nationals, for boys, girls and ???ords. Is this a School or otherwise. Are there school records available? I have a Florence E. who was 8 (at the time born in Southend ?? Middlesex) living with her Grandparent POTTERs (Thomas and Eliza) and their dau Mary J and their son Harry. I am assuming that if this a school that Florence would go there. I would like to confirm her last name and possibly find out her parents. She may be the dau of Mary Jane. Thanks so much for any help Sandra in Canada