Jean, Is your John Fordham descended from the Fordhams who had Tuthill Manor in the 1600's or the Fordham who married a Mary Turner b 1617 in Reed? regards Carolyn

Many thanks Thelma - I would love the image if you can send it it. In 1861, the entry again is not very clear - looks like Worsley, Herts or Hants but it could be Hunts!!! Many thanks for your help. Jean -----Original Message----- From: Thelma Wigley [mailto:t.wig@btinternet.com] Sent: 01 October 2005 23:01 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] jean1.williams@ntlworld.com Derick Having squinted at it again...yes! it could well be Warboys. Many thanks Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Gregory" <d.gregory3@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] jean1.williams@ntlworld.com > Could it be Warboys > > derick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thelma Wigley" <t.wig@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:54 PM > Subject: [HRT] jean1.williams@ntlworld.com > > >> Hi Jean >> >> I have the census and have found your family. If no-one has sent you >> the image by tomorrow let me know and I'll get my daughter to do it - I'm >> not very capable with such things! Meantime, Eliza's birthplace is >> Huntingdonshire - the town looks like Warsby or Warnby but I can't find >> it in our road-map index. >> >> Regards >> Thelma >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jean Williams" <jean1.williams@ntlworld.com> >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:00 PM >> Subject: [HRT] 1851 Census Dane end FORDHAM >> >> >>>I wonder if anyone could send the image for the following: >>> >>> 1851 Census >>> Dane End, Little Munden >>> >>> John Fordham aged 36 wheelwright employing 1 man born Buntingford, Herts >>> Susan wife aged 32 born Hertford, Herts >>> Eliza (mother) widow aged 58 born ? >>> Charles, brother, aged 13 errand boy born Little Mundon >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Jean >>> >>> All Outgoing Messages are scanned by Norton Anti Virus Software >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the >>> message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other >>> readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== Hertfordshire FHS: http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm

Hi Carolyn I wish I knew!!! All I have (so far!!) is: Jonathan FORDHAM born 1789 - I don;'t know where. He married Elizabeth Johanne LARKIN in 1814 at Wyddil, Hertford. Jonathan died in 1841 at Dane End, Little Munden and Elizabeth in 1863 also at Dane End. They had 16 children and I am descended from Emma who was born in 1816. I would love to get further back but have not yet found out who Jonathan's parents were or where he was born. Thanks for your interest. Jean -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Turner [mailto:carolynjt@dodo.com.au] Sent: 02 October 2005 04:02 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] FORDHAM census Jean, Is your John Fordham descended from the Fordhams who had Tuthill Manor in the 1600's or the Fordham who married a Mary Turner b 1617 in Reed? regards Carolyn ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== To POST a message to this list use the address: eng-hertfordshire-l@rootsweb.com 2) To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe.

Sue, I have films at my local LDS on WESTMILL. I will be more than willing to take a look at the films and see if I can find MARGARET SILVERSIDE. When I checked the IGI files to see what film it would be on, seems all of her info has been compiled by LDS members and no source is listed. If you check the Ancestral file that comes up, it shows 3 different submitters. I will be going to my local LDS FHC on Thursday evening, will let you know if I find her. Regards, Theresa E. Smith Mechanicsburg, PA, USA -------------- Original message -------------- > Hi List, > > How can I find the parents of Margaret SILVERSIDE? I do not drive and > no public transportation. > > Margaret was born abt. 1547. I believe it was Westmill but not > certain. She married Thomas RICHARDSON b. 1543 in Westmill. They > were married at St. Albans Abbey, Hertfordshire, England on 15 June > 1567. Thomas was the son of Thomas RICHARDSON and Mary Unknown. > > I have been looking for many years for her parents and date of birth > or christening. > > Sue macduff@infionline.net > > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Derick Having squinted at it again...yes! it could well be Warboys. Many thanks Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Gregory" <d.gregory3@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] jean1.williams@ntlworld.com > Could it be Warboys > > derick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thelma Wigley" <t.wig@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:54 PM > Subject: [HRT] jean1.williams@ntlworld.com > > >> Hi Jean >> >> I have the census and have found your family. If no-one has sent you >> the image by tomorrow let me know and I'll get my daughter to do it - I'm >> not very capable with such things! Meantime, Eliza's birthplace is >> Huntingdonshire - the town looks like Warsby or Warnby but I can't find >> it in our road-map index. >> >> Regards >> Thelma >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jean Williams" <jean1.williams@ntlworld.com> >> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:00 PM >> Subject: [HRT] 1851 Census Dane end FORDHAM >> >> >>>I wonder if anyone could send the image for the following: >>> >>> 1851 Census >>> Dane End, Little Munden >>> >>> John Fordham aged 36 wheelwright employing 1 man born Buntingford, Herts >>> Susan wife aged 32 born Hertford, Herts >>> Eliza (mother) widow aged 58 born ? >>> Charles, brother, aged 13 errand boy born Little Mundon >>> >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Jean >>> >>> All Outgoing Messages are scanned by Norton Anti Virus Software >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >>> TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the >>> message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other >>> readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >> http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > >

Could it be Warboys derick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelma Wigley" <t.wig@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: [HRT] jean1.williams@ntlworld.com > Hi Jean > > I have the census and have found your family. If no-one has sent you the > image by tomorrow let me know and I'll get my daughter to do it - I'm not > very capable with such things! Meantime, Eliza's birthplace is > Huntingdonshire - the town looks like Warsby or Warnby but I can't find it > in our road-map index. > > Regards > Thelma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Williams" <jean1.williams@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:00 PM > Subject: [HRT] 1851 Census Dane end FORDHAM > > >>I wonder if anyone could send the image for the following: >> >> 1851 Census >> Dane End, Little Munden >> >> John Fordham aged 36 wheelwright employing 1 man born Buntingford, Herts >> Susan wife aged 32 born Hertford, Herts >> Eliza (mother) widow aged 58 born ? >> Charles, brother, aged 13 errand boy born Little Mundon >> >> Many thanks >> >> Jean >> >> All Outgoing Messages are scanned by Norton Anti Virus Software >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the >> message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other >> readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

Hi Jean I have the census and have found your family. If no-one has sent you the image by tomorrow let me know and I'll get my daughter to do it - I'm not very capable with such things! Meantime, Eliza's birthplace is Huntingdonshire - the town looks like Warsby or Warnby but I can't find it in our road-map index. Regards Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Williams" <jean1.williams@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: [HRT] 1851 Census Dane end FORDHAM >I wonder if anyone could send the image for the following: > > 1851 Census > Dane End, Little Munden > > John Fordham aged 36 wheelwright employing 1 man born Buntingford, Herts > Susan wife aged 32 born Hertford, Herts > Eliza (mother) widow aged 58 born ? > Charles, brother, aged 13 errand boy born Little Mundon > > Many thanks > > Jean > > All Outgoing Messages are scanned by Norton Anti Virus Software > > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > TRY to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the > message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other > readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. > >

Hi List, How can I find the parents of Margaret SILVERSIDE? I do not drive and no public transportation. Margaret was born abt. 1547. I believe it was Westmill but not certain. She married Thomas RICHARDSON b. 1543 in Westmill. They were married at St. Albans Abbey, Hertfordshire, England on 15 June 1567. Thomas was the son of Thomas RICHARDSON and Mary Unknown. I have been looking for many years for her parents and date of birth or christening. Sue macduff@infionline.net

I wonder if anyone could send the image for the following: 1851 Census Dane End, Little Munden John Fordham aged 36 wheelwright employing 1 man born Buntingford, Herts Susan wife aged 32 born Hertford, Herts Eliza (mother) widow aged 58 born ? Charles, brother, aged 13 errand boy born Little Mundon Many thanks Jean All Outgoing Messages are scanned by Norton Anti Virus Software

Sorry can't answer your query. But I married a Nigel Guy Neilson HAMPTON (b.1948) in Enfield Middx 1969, whose father was Edward I believe (I think E.H.W.Hampton). Bishops Stortford is easily in Enfield's 'patch', or the other way around. May find there is a connection some time. Regards Sue Rowe, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: alan boocock<mailto:baboocock@pd.jaring.my> To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 30 September 2005 8:48 PM Subject: [HRT] George HAMPTON @ Cherry Orchards Sawbridgeworth To all list I am researching the HAMPTONS who lived in Sawbridgeworth in the middle late 18th century and from notes made some thirty years ago, a George HAMPTON who lived and died in 1793/4 at a small estate called Cherry Orchards, Sawbridgeworth about 4 miles from Bishops Stortford. Could anyone advise me whether the orchard still exists and if so where any records would be kept Alan KL Malaysia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/114 - Release Date: 9/28/2005 ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== Hertfordshire FHS: http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm<http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm>

To all list I am researching the HAMPTONS who lived in Sawbridgeworth in the middle late 18th century and from notes made some thirty years ago, a George HAMPTON who lived and died in 1793/4 at a small estate called Cherry Orchards, Sawbridgeworth about 4 miles from Bishops Stortford. Could anyone advise me whether the orchard still exists and if so where any records would be kept Alan KL Malaysia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/114 - Release Date: 9/28/2005

Thanks to all who helped me with the search of the TALL family and particularly this Mary Ann Tall in the 1871 census. I found her with some help from a cousin of mine, in Hitchin a domestic servant, but was transcribed as Maryan Fall. Thank you all once again for the kind help, very much appreciated. Regards Eunice

Is there anyone out there that could find this person at all on the 1871 census. I have had some help but we still can't locate her anywhere at the moment. Also thanks to the people who did respond it left me with a few leads but so far it has hit a brick wall. Eunice

Please note that it should be Alfred Omant NOT ARTHUR. Mary was born in Biggleswade, Beds. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eunice Goude To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: 1871 census - OMANT or TALL - Hitchin Is there sks that could try to find a Mary Tall In Hitchin - she would be around 17 years old. Her mother Fanny Tall, was in the workhouse in Hitchin but was transfered to Ampthill the day before the birth of her son Percy Tall. She had her other daughter Harriet with her but not Mary. Now was she left with someone else or maybe she was living at her future husband's house in Hitchin - Arthur Omant. Mary and Arthur married in Hitchin Feb 1873. Thanks Eunice - Australia

Is there sks that could try to find a Mary Tall In Hitchin - she would be around 17 years old. Her mother Fanny Tall, was in the workhouse in Hitchin but was transfered to Ampthill the day before the birth of her son Percy Tall. She had her other daughter Harriet with her but not Mary. Now was she left with someone else or maybe she was living at her future husband's house in Hitchin - Arthur Omant. Mary and Arthur married in Hitchin Feb 1873. Thanks Eunice - Australia

I used to be married to one, but she thought the grass was greener the other side of the fence, she cost me an arm and a leg. David -----Original Message----- From: Myoutbackhippies@aol.com [mailto:Myoutbackhippies@aol.com] Sent: 28 September 2005 19:34 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] No Postings??? - HAMP In a message dated 28/09/2005 18:44:37 GMT Standard Time, david.judd3@btinternet.com writes: Have you tried the area around Oxford and in particular Littlemore, Wallingford is another area where Hamps can be found of more recent times. David Judd Thanks for the suggestions David. There's not that many HAMP's about, but Oxford, Bucks, and a few other counties all seem to have a family or 3. Mine may have started in Bucks, but the only ancient information I have is a birth in Enfield c1807, of my 3x great grandfather, Joseph HAMP/HEMP, then his marriage, 1833 in London, after which he moved to Ware, where he died. He and his wife had about 16 children. Some of the children then went back to London, my gggrandparents were one of the couples that did. Most of the family were Gardeners or Grocers There was, if memory serves me correct, a Hamp in Tring in the 1700's. Haven't found any family connection as yet. I'm in contact with a HAMP, who is doing extensive research on the HAMP's, and I'm trying to help him gather as much info as pos, as rumour has it that the HAMP's all originated in Bucks. I suspect that's an old wives tale, but you never know. We have census details, and as many bmd's that we can lay our hands on, so we can piece together the families, (or rather he can as he does most of the hard work) however, any other/and/or/additional info would be great. Myself, am particularly interested in any info on HAMP's to be found anywhere in Herts. Thanks again David for your kind suggestions Lois ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== Hertfordshire FHS: http://www.btinternet.com/~hfphs/index.htm

Have you tried the area around Oxford and in particular Littlemore, Wallingford is another area where Hamps can be found of more recent times. David Judd -----Original Message----- From: Myoutbackhippies@aol.com [mailto:Myoutbackhippies@aol.com] Sent: 28 September 2005 18:10 To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HRT] No Postings??? - HAMP In a message dated 28/09/2005 03:51:15 GMT Standard Time, Dominicci@aol.com writes: Haven't gotten any postings from this list in several days....Is there something wrong somewhere? Not as far as I know, perhaps most are busy doing summat else. If anyone has any information about the HAMP families, and various spelling of same, who lived in Hertfordshire, Ware and Tring, or anywhere else in Herts, at any time, I would be very grateful to learn about it. Many thanks Lois In wet Northumberland UK ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the English County of Hertfordshire. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged.

In a message dated 28/09/2005 19:40:03 GMT Standard Time, david.judd3@btinternet.com writes: I used to be married to one, but she thought the grass was greener the other side of the fence, she cost me an arm and a leg. David *********************************************************** Oh dear! Sorry to hear that. Apparently some of the HAMP families tended to be snobby and looked down their noses at the "working class" Hamp's.............wonder what they would have made of my family, working class through and through! Lois

Hi Eunice, I haven't managed to find Mary at all in the 1871 census - I have found her mother and siblings and I have found her future husband Alfred Omant (mistranscribed as AMANT by Ancestry) as follows: PRO Ref: RG10/1368, folio 53, page 4 Schedule 22, Barnards Yard, Back St, Hitchin Alfred OMANT Head Mar 27 Bricklayer Herts Ickleford Mary Ann do Wife Mar 28 do Hitchin Ann do Daur 4 Scholar do do Kate do Daur 2 do do Jane do Cousin Unm 18 Straw Plater do do James HOLT Brother in law Unm 21 Bricklayers Labourer do do Alfred's first wife looks as if she died in the March qtr of 1872 at Hitchin reg district. I have found Mary and family in the 1861 census - let me know if you would like details. Sorry not to have been of more help. Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eunice Goude" <ozypomeg@tpg.com.au> To: <ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: [HRT] Fw: 1871 census - OMANT or TALL - Hitchin > Please note that it should be Alfred Omant NOT ARTHUR. > Mary was born in Biggleswade, Beds. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eunice Goude > To: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:14 PM > Subject: 1871 census - OMANT or TALL - Hitchin > > > Is there sks that could try to find a Mary Tall In Hitchin - she would be > around 17 years old. Her mother Fanny Tall, was in the workhouse in > Hitchin but was transfered to Ampthill the day before the birth of her son > Percy Tall. She had her other daughter Harriet with her but not Mary. Now > was she left with someone else or maybe she was living at her future > husband's house in Hitchin - Arthur Omant. > Mary and Arthur married in Hitchin Feb 1873. > Thanks > Eunice - Australia > > > ==== ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

In a message dated 28/09/2005 18:44:37 GMT Standard Time, david.judd3@btinternet.com writes: Have you tried the area around Oxford and in particular Littlemore, Wallingford is another area where Hamps can be found of more recent times. David Judd Thanks for the suggestions David. There's not that many HAMP's about, but Oxford, Bucks, and a few other counties all seem to have a family or 3. Mine may have started in Bucks, but the only ancient information I have is a birth in Enfield c1807, of my 3x great grandfather, Joseph HAMP/HEMP, then his marriage, 1833 in London, after which he moved to Ware, where he died. He and his wife had about 16 children. Some of the children then went back to London, my gggrandparents were one of the couples that did. Most of the family were Gardeners or Grocers There was, if memory serves me correct, a Hamp in Tring in the 1700's. Haven't found any family connection as yet. I'm in contact with a HAMP, who is doing extensive research on the HAMP's, and I'm trying to help him gather as much info as pos, as rumour has it that the HAMP's all originated in Bucks. I suspect that's an old wives tale, but you never know. We have census details, and as many bmd's that we can lay our hands on, so we can piece together the families, (or rather he can as he does most of the hard work) however, any other/and/or/additional info would be great. Myself, am particularly interested in any info on HAMP's to be found anywhere in Herts. Thanks again David for your kind suggestions Lois