Is there anyone on the list who would be willing look up something for me in a trade directory sometime between 1855 and 1865 in Bishop's Stortford ? I have tried and tried to get on the historical directories website to look it up for myself but just cannot get access. Many thanks for your help. Jane

Hi Sandra, You wrote - and still 700 pages to go!!! Yes this is very time consuming. It is trial site and apparently will only be available for something like 3 weeks. Oh dear - not enough hours in a day. Maggie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] 19th Century British Newspaper Searches Available > Hi Maggie, > I too am grateful for that posting. I have spent all afternoon extracting > information for my one-name study> Sandra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maggie Perkins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:29 PM > Subject: [HRT] 19th Century British Newspaper Searches Available > > >> The following is available for a short trial period and will, I'm sure, >> be >> of interest to many of you. >> >> http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/palci07?id=trial&db=BNCN >> >> Maggie. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: >> 13/03/2008 11:31 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: 3/14/2008 > 12:33 > >

Hello Roy, You wrote > > I found on the website above an item about a great-uncle of mine, > Thomas Henry Stockdill, who entered a vocal contest at Bradford, Yorks, > in 1873 and was runner-up in the comic song section. The report even > gave the name of the song he sang - "The Milkman of Fairweather > Green", which sounds ever so slightly rude to me. I wonder if it was about > milkmen and local housewives? > > Now that is what I really call family history trivia! I too when searching my Yorkshire John Poskitts came across a singer. An opera singer appearing in a Show in London - I found this quite surprising. Another John Poskitt, a carter, was fined 1/- at the Hull Police Court on the 29th March 1867. This was for leaving his horse and cart without anyone in charge. No yellow lines in the road or speed cameras then but things don't really change! Difficult at the moment to know if these Johns are mine. there are some more 400 or so similar yet to look at! Maggie

Hi Pearl, You asked > - are you related to the Perkins of Herts No, I am sorry I'm not related to any Herts Perkins. My late husband's Perkins family came from Islington. It was not until we were in our late thirties that we discovered that he had been adopted. This cleared up a lot of anomalies we had been told. Liars should have good memories! Luckily we were able to trace and meet his natural mother and discovered his surname was originally HAZEL. Maggie.

Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and thought I'd start with the "I should be so lucky" question - Does anyone on the list have knowledge of the Weatherley family in Hatfield? The people I'm most interested in lived there in the late 1800s and early 1900s, however the family line goes back at least to 1800 in the area. Some family members also set up house in Northaw, and there seems to be a connection with Weatherleys in Edmonton/Enfield, Middlesex. I'm also interested in the Hale family who lived in Ware around 1880, one of whom married into the Weatherley family in 1901. Any information would be much appreciated. Lisa

----- Original Message ----- From: "BRYAN PERKINS" Hello - how nice to hear from you - I have been at a standstill it seems for ages re my Perkins- Mine originate from Hoddesdeon, Great Amwell, Ware If you have any connection my names are Wm Hy born 1802 - Hy 1807and Wm 1809 Hears hopin Pearl

This is more than likely the family in 1891 1891 England Census Name: William Faulkner Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Charlette Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, London, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthews County/Island: London England Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch Household Members: Name Age Charlette Faulkner 60 Fred Faulkner 25 William Faulkner 28 The frustrating thing for you is that in this census everyone is listed as being born in London including Charlotte.- but it looks as though the enumerator may have just been lazy in what they asked for. Can send you the image off list if you would like it. Possible death for Charlotte Faulkner March 1894 Faulkner Charlotte 66 Marylebone 1a 465 This may be William in 1901 Name: William Faulkner Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susan Gender: Male Where born: Chelsea, London, England civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel Maida Hill County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age George Faulkner 4d Susan Faulkner 32 Susan C Faulkner 2 William Faulkner 37 William Faulkner 4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gadsby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: [HRT] VIPERS; FAULKNER >I have just subscribed to this list in the hope that someone can throw >light on a long-standing problem I have had. > > I have a birth certificate for Harriet FAULKNER (b. 1874 Marylebone) which > shows her parents to have been William FAULKNER (deceased) and Charlotte > FAULKNER formerly VIPERS. I am interested in Harriet's brother William > FAULKNER junior, b. abt 1862 in Chelsea according to census entries. I am > presuming his mother was also Charlotte VIPERS but can find no proof. > > The 1881 census shows Charlotte FAULKNER as a widow living at 8 Little > Church Street Marylebone with her children as follows: > > 1881 census > Street address: 8 Little Church St > Civil Parish: St Marylebone > Registration district: Marylebone > Sub-registration district: Christchurch > > Charlotte Faulkner Head Wid 45 plain needleworker b. Hertfordshire > (abt 1836) > William Faulkner son U 19 Shunter on railway b. Chelsea, > Middlesex (abt 1862) > Frederick Faulkner son U 16 Van Guard G W R b. Marylebone (abt > 1865) > Annie Faulkner dau U 12 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) > Harriet Faulkner dau U 7 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) > > Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 154; Folio: 27; Page: 45; Line: ; > GSU roll: 1341034. > > I have been unable to follow this family back before this and I wonder if > anyone can tell me if a record of the marriage between Charlotte VIPERS > and William FAULKNER is recorded in Hertfordshire. I suspect it is more > likely to be in the Middlesex area but have no idea where to start > searching. Nothing on Free BMD looks right. > > I have discovered that the VIPERS surname is almost completely restricted > to the Hertford area in 1881 which is interesting and seems to fit the > census information. > > An suggestions gratefully received. > > Chris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: > 13/03/2008 11:31 AM >

In a message dated 15/03/2008 03:25:27 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Weatherleys in Edmonton/Enfield, Middlesex. Hi there Lisa, I have an Eliza Weatherley born 1831 Edmonton, Middlesex, England, she married William Abdey on the 20 August, 1852 in the Parish Church, Edmonton, England. Eliza died 1902 Croydon, England. Her father was Edward who was a labourer, William came from Cheshunt, Hertfordshire. In 1881 she was living at Meliora Villas, Beddington, Surrey. She was given as head of the household and a launderess, William died in 1880. The ABDEY line is my line and I have a lot of people connected to this tree but I do not have anymore information on Eliza. Julie WADE nee ABDEY GB.

Hi I seem to have come to this a bit late but they are in the 1841 census at Park Row Greenwich , parish of St Alphage , and Francis A is 33 a merchant N for not born in county , with Francis H , 2, and Susanna Hall 25 , schoolmistress , and Christiana Hall , 20 , also schoolmistress, Susanna is Y for b in county but Christiana is N for not ........ There is a will of Francis Armstrong Nugent , mercantile clerk of Greenwich dated 1847 online downloadable from the National archives ...........there are also two Herts Nugent wills a Rev George 1830 and Elizabeth spinster 1839 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs Wise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: [HRT] francis armstrong nugent > Francis Armstrong Nugent was the father of Francis Hall Nugent who was > born > at Greenhithe Kent . Francis Armstrong Nugent's first wife, the mother of > Francis Hall Nugent was Emily Ann Hall, born at Deptford in 1809. She died > in1839. Francis Armstrong nugent then married his sister in law Sussanah > Jane Hall. Their children were James Hall Nugent, Arthur George Nugent and > Sussanah Frances Nugent. When Francis Hall Nugent came to Ausrralia in > 1852 > he went to search his fortune on the gold fields where he met Ann Field > born > at Bathurst in1844. Susannah Jane Nugent ne Hall ran a ladies school at > their home Earlswood House in Hamilton Tce. Greenwich in 1851. Francis > Hall > Nugent went to School at the old Greyfriars School in London, near > Greyfriars Church and St. Pauls. Greyfriars School was a blue coat school > or charity school. These people are my ancestors. If you require any more > information I should be most willing to help. Coincidentally my aunts > always > said that it had been Emily Ann Nugent ne Hall who had been killed in a > carriage accident. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: > 13/03/2008 11:31 > >

I have been having a very good look and your family is not easily found. However I did find this family in 1871 with similar names of the children and birthdates and in the right order. Except parents different. So I am wondering if Margaret died, then John remarried, then John died all before 1881 census - again not easy to find. 1871 England Census William Faulkner Age: 10 born abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Margaret Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St John Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St John Horsleydown Household Members: Name Age Anna Faulkner 1 Frederick Faulkner 6 John Faulkner 33 Margaret Faulkner 39 Minnie Faulkner 4 William Faulkner 10 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gadsby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: [HRT] VIPERS; FAULKNER >I have just subscribed to this list in the hope that someone can throw >light on a long-standing problem I have had. > > I have a birth certificate for Harriet FAULKNER (b. 1874 Marylebone) which > shows her parents to have been William FAULKNER (deceased) and Charlotte > FAULKNER formerly VIPERS. I am interested in Harriet's brother William > FAULKNER junior, b. abt 1862 in Chelsea according to census entries. I am > presuming his mother was also Charlotte VIPERS but can find no proof. > > The 1881 census shows Charlotte FAULKNER as a widow living at 8 Little > Church Street Marylebone with her children as follows: > > 1881 census > Street address: 8 Little Church St > Civil Parish: St Marylebone > Registration district: Marylebone > Sub-registration district: Christchurch > > Charlotte Faulkner Head Wid 45 plain needleworker b. Hertfordshire > (abt 1836) > William Faulkner son U 19 Shunter on railway b. Chelsea, > Middlesex (abt 1862) > Frederick Faulkner son U 16 Van Guard G W R b. Marylebone (abt > 1865) > Annie Faulkner dau U 12 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) > Harriet Faulkner dau U 7 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) > > Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 154; Folio: 27; Page: 45; Line: ; > GSU roll: 1341034. > > I have been unable to follow this family back before this and I wonder if > anyone can tell me if a record of the marriage between Charlotte VIPERS > and William FAULKNER is recorded in Hertfordshire. I suspect it is more > likely to be in the Middlesex area but have no idea where to start > searching. Nothing on Free BMD looks right. > > I have discovered that the VIPERS surname is almost completely restricted > to the Hertford area in 1881 which is interesting and seems to fit the > census information. > > An suggestions gratefully received. > > Chris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: > 13/03/2008 11:31 AM >

Hi Chris You will also find spellings PHYPERS, PHYPURS and PHYPOURS (there's some in my wife's family, her family all being from north-east Hertfordshire) so it may be worth searching for those too. It's not a particularly common name by any accounts. Just out of interest, there was a lad called VIPERS in my form at school (Hoddesdon - late 1970s) and as far as I am aware there are still some PHYPERS living just up the road from me, in Hertford Heath. Regards Brian Hertford, Herts, UK On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 23:38 +0000, Chris Gadsby wrote: > I have just subscribed to this list in the hope that someone can throw light on a long-standing problem I have had. > > I have a birth certificate for Harriet FAULKNER (b. 1874 Marylebone) which shows her parents to have been William FAULKNER (deceased) and Charlotte FAULKNER formerly VIPERS. I am interested in Harriet's brother William FAULKNER junior, b. abt 1862 in Chelsea according to census entries. I am presuming his mother was also Charlotte VIPERS but can find no proof. > > The 1881 census shows Charlotte FAULKNER as a widow living at 8 Little Church Street Marylebone with her children as follows: > > 1881 census > Street address: 8 Little Church St > Civil Parish: St Marylebone > Registration district: Marylebone > Sub-registration district: Christchurch > > Charlotte Faulkner Head Wid 45 plain needleworker b. Hertfordshire (abt 1836) > William Faulkner son U 19 Shunter on railway b. Chelsea, Middlesex (abt 1862) > Frederick Faulkner son U 16 Van Guard G W R b. Marylebone (abt 1865) > Annie Faulkner dau U 12 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) > Harriet Faulkner dau U 7 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) > > Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 154; Folio: 27; Page: 45; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341034. > > I have been unable to follow this family back before this and I wonder if anyone can tell me if a record of the marriage between Charlotte VIPERS and William FAULKNER is recorded in Hertfordshire. I suspect it is more likely to be in the Middlesex area but have no idea where to start searching. Nothing on Free BMD looks right. > > I have discovered that the VIPERS surname is almost completely restricted to the Hertford area in 1881 which is interesting and seems to fit the census information. > > An suggestions gratefully received. > > Chris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just subscribed to this list in the hope that someone can throw light on a long-standing problem I have had. I have a birth certificate for Harriet FAULKNER (b. 1874 Marylebone) which shows her parents to have been William FAULKNER (deceased) and Charlotte FAULKNER formerly VIPERS. I am interested in Harriet's brother William FAULKNER junior, b. abt 1862 in Chelsea according to census entries. I am presuming his mother was also Charlotte VIPERS but can find no proof. The 1881 census shows Charlotte FAULKNER as a widow living at 8 Little Church Street Marylebone with her children as follows: 1881 census Street address: 8 Little Church St Civil Parish: St Marylebone Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch Charlotte Faulkner Head Wid 45 plain needleworker b. Hertfordshire (abt 1836) William Faulkner son U 19 Shunter on railway b. Chelsea, Middlesex (abt 1862) Frederick Faulkner son U 16 Van Guard G W R b. Marylebone (abt 1865) Annie Faulkner dau U 12 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) Harriet Faulkner dau U 7 scholar b. Marylebone (abt 1865) Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 154; Folio: 27; Page: 45; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341034. I have been unable to follow this family back before this and I wonder if anyone can tell me if a record of the marriage between Charlotte VIPERS and William FAULKNER is recorded in Hertfordshire. I suspect it is more likely to be in the Middlesex area but have no idea where to start searching. Nothing on Free BMD looks right. I have discovered that the VIPERS surname is almost completely restricted to the Hertford area in 1881 which is interesting and seems to fit the census information. An suggestions gratefully received. Chris

Hi Maggie, I too am grateful for that posting. I have spent all afternoon extracting information for my one-name study - and still 700 pages to go!!! Kind regards Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Perkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:29 PM Subject: [HRT] 19th Century British Newspaper Searches Available > The following is available for a short trial period and will, I'm sure, be > of interest to many of you. > > http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/palci07?id=trial&db=BNCN > > Maggie. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: > 13/03/2008 11:31 > >

Roy It occurs to me that this might be a localised version of "I'm a broken-hearted milkman . . . " also commonly known by its chorus - "Pretty little Polly Perkins of Paddington Green" Dick Roy Stockdill wrote: > From: "Maggie Perkins" > > >> The following is available for a short trial period and will, I'm >> sure, be of interest to many of you. >> >> http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/palci07?id=trial&db=BNCN >> >> Maggie.> >> > > Thanks for posting that. I was aware that the British Newspaper Library > are digitising their collection, but I wasn't sure how far they'd got. > > It's extraordinary the things you can learn about your ancestors from old > newspapers, as I am always telling people when I lecture on the topic. > > I found on the website above an item about a great-uncle of mine, > Thomas Henry Stockdill, who entered a vocal contest at Bradford, Yorks, > in 1873 and was runner-up in the comic song section. The report even > gave the name of the song he sang - "The Milkman of Fairweather > Green", which sounds ever so slightly rude to me. I wonder if it was about > milkmen and local housewives? > > Now that is what I really call family history trivia! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Thank you for this Maggie. I have just found an entry in the Death notices of the Liverpool Mercury for my great great grandmother, who I now know died on 12th August 1834 in London! Ruth ________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maggie Perkins Sent: 14 March 2008 13:30 To: [email protected] Subject: [HRT] 19th Century British Newspaper Searches Available The following is available for a short trial period and will, I'm sure, be of interest to many of you. http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/palci07?id=trial&db=BNCN Maggie. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1328 - Release Date: 13/03/2008 11:31

Hi pearl, Saw your message to Maggie regarding the PERKINS of Herts. I have my family PERKIN/PERKINS in Staffs and then in St John Herts. If you feel there could be a connection I will send you more details. regards, Bryan Perkins ----- Original Message ---- From: Pearl <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 14 March, 2008 5:03:30 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Robert HOWE Hi Maggie - are you related to the Perkins of Herts o f the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Maggie Perkins" > The following is available for a short trial period and will, I'm > sure, be of interest to many of you. > > http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/palci07?id=trial&db=BNCN > > Maggie.> Thanks for posting that. I was aware that the British Newspaper Library are digitising their collection, but I wasn't sure how far they'd got. It's extraordinary the things you can learn about your ancestors from old newspapers, as I am always telling people when I lecture on the topic. I found on the website above an item about a great-uncle of mine, Thomas Henry Stockdill, who entered a vocal contest at Bradford, Yorks, in 1873 and was runner-up in the comic song section. The report even gave the name of the song he sang - "The Milkman of Fairweather Green", which sounds ever so slightly rude to me. I wonder if it was about milkmen and local housewives? Now that is what I really call family history trivia! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Maggie - are you related to the Perkins of Herts o f the message

The following is available for a short trial period and will, I'm sure, be of interest to many of you. http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/palci07?id=trial&db=BNCN Maggie.

Hello Listers, I am new to this list and have found most of my ancestors on the Pirton website, however, I am still looking for the children and their families of Charles Males and Rhoda Weedon who were married in Pirton on 23.2.1840. The names of their children were Sarah, Underwood, Rachel (my gt gt grandmother) William, Charles, George, Ann, James, Jane and Mary. I have some information on Sarah, William, Charles, George and Mary, I have no information on their children. Rachel's daughter Sarah my gt grandmother came with her son John and his family to New Zealand where she died at the age of 91. Her sister Elizabeth I have until the 1891 census and then I loose her. I guess she must have married. Her younger sister Clara I can follow until the 1901 census has her in Islington, London with her husband Thomas Walker and children. Is there anyone who knows or is related to this family, as I would love to hear from you. Many thanks Gloria New Zealand