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    1. [HRT] John WALLER & Mary - Marriage
    2. Sue Waller
    3. I have a Mary and John WALLER buried in 1758 in Bovingdon. I believe they were the parents of these children: John Waller baptised 4th April 1714 - Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire Mary Waller baptised 2nd February 1723 - Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire Thomas Waller baptised 2nd February 1723 - Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire Thomas Waller baptised 16th August 1730 - Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire However, I'm unable to find a suitable marriage for this couple. Can anyone help please? Sue (Kent) _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000002ukm/direct/01/

    05/25/2008 03:40:37
    1. [HRT] WADE / HALSEY
    2. Pat Wade
    3. Hi, I would love to make contact with descendents of either Frederick Charles WADE and/or Katie HALSEY. Frederick WADE (born Tring) married Mary Anne FOGG in 1897 in Edmonton and had two children that I know of (Frank and Sydney) his second wife was Katie HALSEY who he married in 1923 in Watford. They also had two children that I know of (Margaret Alice & Christina) Katies first husband was James GOODMAN who she married in 1913 in Watford. Frederick was a fishmonger and worked in Windsor. I believe that they lived in Windsor most of their married life. All three are buried at the Windsor Cemetery which I do have photos of. Frederick and Katie buried together and Mary not far away. Frank and Sydney came to Australia shortly after the two girls were born. From Fredericks will in 1948 I suspect that the girls were not married at that stage. They were only 21 and 18 at that time. Thank you. Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King)

    05/23/2008 02:00:25
    1. [HRT] free mililary records
    2. Maggie
    3. Free Public Access on Ancestry.com "To commemorate the NARA-Ancestry.com agreement on the eve of Memorial Day, Ancestry.com is making its entire U.S. Military Collection -- the largest online collection of American military records -- available for free to the public. From May 20 through May 31, ... to view more than 100 million names and 700 titles and databases of military records, the majority of which come from NARA, from all 50 U.S. states." Here is a list of the records available: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/grouplist.aspx?group=war_all These are probably the most helpful records: Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 ["Old Man's Draft"] Maggie

    05/22/2008 01:34:40
    1. Re: [HRT] Marriage in 1940
    2. Sandra J Smith
    3. Coleen, If you are looking at FreeBMD, they have only indexed up until about 1916. It is an on-going project. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHale" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: [HRT] Marriage in 1940 > Hoping someone can give me a little guidance - please. > > My grandparents, Patrick Chelsea BEESON and Kathleen Alicia WALES, were > married at St. Anne's (????) Catholic Church in Rickmansworth on December > 24, 1940. I know that they received a special dispensation from the > Church because it was on Christmas Eve however, BMD is not showing any > marriage registration listing for the couple. Actually now that I look at > it more closely my dad and uncle are not shown in the birth registration > listing either from the area. Where do I go from here, how do I obtain a > copy of a certificate that is not listed as registered? > > Thanx for any assistance or direction! > > Colleen HALE nee BEESON > Arizona USA > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1456 - Release Date: 20/05/2008 06:45

    05/20/2008 02:11:04
    1. Re: [HRT] Watford woman with 30 children
    2. Donald Massey
    3. I have "Hertfordshire Inns & Public Houses" (Jolliffe and Jones) which mentions some of the pubs listed below, and others not listed, but no mention of the lady with 30 children! Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- > > Here is a list of Watford Victuallers' pubs found by searching on HALs. > Might be worth looking up on the census although this might not be a full > list > of all the pubs. > > Anchor, Angel, Artichoke, Bell als. One Bell, Bull, Chequer, Compasses, > Crooked Billet, cross, Crown als. Old Crown, 8 Bells, Essex Arms, George, > Green > Man > > Saracen's Head, Spread Eagle, Swan, 3 Crowns, 3 Horseshoes, 3 Tuns, True > Blue, 2 Fighting Cocks, Wheatsheaf, White Hart > > Hare, Hole in the Wall, Holly Bush, Horns, Horseshoe, King's Head, > Leathersellers' Arms, Maidenhead, Nag's Head, Plough, Pointer & Bird, Red > Lion (x 2), > Rising Sun, Rose & Crown

    05/20/2008 01:51:42
    1. Re: [HRT] Marriage in 1940
    2. Anne Peat
    3. Colleen, The Roman Catholic Church in Rickmansworth, built 1910 is named for Our Lady Help of Christians. The marriage is listed for the December quarter 1940 Patrick C Beeson married WALES Reg district: Watford ( Rickmansworth comes under that district) 3a 4335 and if your grandfather was born in 1917 mother's maiden name O'Sullivan, then this is the birth reference from Free BMD Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Mar 1917 Beeson Patrick C O'Sullivan Watford 3a 1392 HTH Anne On 20 May 2008, at 17:28, CHale wrote: > Hoping someone can give me a little guidance - please. > > My grandparents, Patrick Chelsea BEESON and Kathleen Alicia WALES, > were married at St. Anne's (????) Catholic Church in Rickmansworth > on December 24, 1940. I know that they received a special > dispensation from the Church because it was on Christmas Eve > however, BMD is not showing any marriage registration listing for > the couple. Actually now that I look at it more closely my dad and > uncle are not shown in the birth registration listing either from > the area. Where do I go from here, how do I obtain a copy of a > certificate that is not listed as registered? > > Thanx for any assistance or direction! > > Colleen HALE nee BEESON > Arizona USA >

    05/20/2008 11:41:29
    1. Re: [HRT] Marriage in 1940
    2. Hi Colleen, I found the marriage on Ancestry - Patrick C Beeson Married Kathleen A Wales Ref: Watford 3a 4335. Regards, Diana

    05/20/2008 11:01:16
    1. [HRT] SAUNDERS from Knebworth
    2. Rod & Josie Butterfield
    3. Hi I just sent this message then found out that a Joseph Butterfield died in 1839,but I can not find another death for him later on,but I could find the marriage in 1847 all in IGI.so if anyone can tell me also who does he belong to as I had him as a son of John Butterfield and Rachel CRAWLEY > Hi does anyone know of the Saunders family from Knebworth. > I have a Jemima SAUNDERS born 26 July 1829,married a Joseph BUTTERFIELD > 1847.if anyone has any info on her side,I would appreciate hearing from > you. > thanks and regards Josie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/20/2008 09:57:09
    1. [HRT] SAUNDERS from Knebworth (Hitchin)
    2. Gay O'Neill
    3. this is the family below 1841 England Census Name: Jemma Saunders Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Gender: Female Where born: Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Hitchin Hundred: Hitchin and Pirton County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Hitchin Sub registration district: Hitchin Household Members: Name Age Thomas Saunders 40 Maria Saunders 40 Ann Saunders 3 Emma Saunders 9 George Saunders 6 Jemma Saunders 11 Sarah Saunders 15 1851 England Census Name: Thomas Saunders Age: 54 Birth Year: abt 1797 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Where born: Pauls Walden, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Hitchin County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Registration district: Hitchin Sub registration district: Hitchin ED, institution, or vessel: 2m Household Members: Name Age Thomas Saunders 54 Maria Saunders 51 Anna Saunders 13 William Saunders 9 1851 England Census Name: Jemima Butterfield Age: 21 1830 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Where born: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Hitchin County/Island: Hertfordshire Registration district: Hitchin Sub registration district: Hitchin Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 24 Household Members: Name AgeJoseph Butterfield 24 Jemima Butterfield 21Fanny Butterfield 3 Jemima Butterfield 1 Hope this is helpful ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goolwa Time & Jewellery" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: [HRT] SAUNDERS from Knebworth > Hi does anyone know of the Saunders family from Knebworth. > I have a Jemima SAUNDERS born 26 July 1829,married a Joseph BUTTERFIELD > 1847.if anyone has any info on her side,I would appreciate hearing from > you. > thanks and regards Josie

    05/20/2008 09:27:34
    1. [HRT] SAUNDERS from Knebworth
    2. Goolwa Time & Jewellery
    3. Hi does anyone know of the Saunders family from Knebworth. I have a Jemima SAUNDERS born 26 July 1829,married a Joseph BUTTERFIELD 1847.if anyone has any info on her side,I would appreciate hearing from you. thanks and regards Josie

    05/20/2008 09:03:43
    1. [HRT] Marriage in 1940
    2. CHale
    3. Hoping someone can give me a little guidance - please. My grandparents, Patrick Chelsea BEESON and Kathleen Alicia WALES, were married at St. Anne's (????) Catholic Church in Rickmansworth on December 24, 1940. I know that they received a special dispensation from the Church because it was on Christmas Eve however, BMD is not showing any marriage registration listing for the couple. Actually now that I look at it more closely my dad and uncle are not shown in the birth registration listing either from the area. Where do I go from here, how do I obtain a copy of a certificate that is not listed as registered? Thanx for any assistance or direction! Colleen HALE nee BEESON Arizona USA ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

    05/20/2008 03:28:17
    1. Re: [HRT] Watford woman with 30 children
    2. Hi, Here is a list of Watford Victuallers' pubs found by searching on HALs. Might be worth looking up on the census although this might not be a full list of all the pubs. Anchor, Angel, Artichoke, Bell als. One Bell, Bull, Chequer, Compasses, Crooked Billet, cross, Crown als. Old Crown, 8 Bells, Essex Arms, George, Green Man Saracen's Head, Spread Eagle, Swan, 3 Crowns, 3 Horseshoes, 3 Tuns, True Blue, 2 Fighting Cocks, Wheatsheaf, White Hart Hare, Hole in the Wall, Holly Bush, Horns, Horseshoe, King's Head, Leathersellers' Arms, Maidenhead, Nag's Head, Plough, Pointer & Bird, Red Lion (x 2), Rising Sun, Rose & Crown Diana (mailto:[email protected])

    05/19/2008 12:25:09
    1. Re: [HRT] Watford woman with 30 children
    2. Emscote
    3. Maybe one couldn't believe all one read in the papers even then! JK On 19 May 2008, at 15:30, Roy Stockdill wrote: > My thanks to everyone who made useful suggestions re my enquiry. > > Unfortunately, I haven't yet managed to identify her! > > -- > Roy Stockdill >

    05/19/2008 11:03:39
    1. Re: [HRT] Watford woman with 30 children
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. My thanks to everyone who made useful suggestions re my enquiry. Unfortunately, I haven't yet managed to identify her! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    05/19/2008 09:30:04
    1. Re: [HRT] Marriage, Hertfordshire
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. From: "Sandra J Smith" <[email protected]> > The Herts Marriage (Allen) Index is online at: > http://www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/heritage1/HALS/indexes/ < Thanks for pointing that out. I don't need it myself but may help the OP. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    05/19/2008 07:51:17
    1. Re: [HRT] Watford woman with 30 children
    2. my great grandmother EMILY LAVINIA WILKES - STANGROOME /COLE ? was said to have had 21 children from 2 marriages, ? so far have located? 16 of them ,?2 died as children.and 1 died in ww1, she died in 1942 and is buried at Bourne End Herts. It looks as if she lied about her age on her marriage certificate, as according to her birth cert she would have been 17? not full age as stated. regards carolynn -----Original Message----- From: Emscote &lt;[email protected]&gt; To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 19 May 2008 17:03 Subject: Re: [HRT] Watford woman with 30 children Maybe one couldn't believe all one read in the papers even then! JK On 19 May 2008, at 15:30, Roy Stockdill wrote: &gt; My thanks to everyone who made useful suggestions re my enquiry. &gt; &gt; Unfortunately, I haven't yet managed to identify her! &gt; &gt; -- &gt; Roy Stockdill &gt; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

    05/19/2008 06:19:38
    1. [HRT] Visiting Hemel Hempstead and surrounds in early June (Thank you)
    2. Elizabeth McMillan
    3. Thanks to Anne and Peter for their ideas about obtaining information. I have also read about the redevelopment of this area and the likelihood of streets not being there now. I know that I have looked on some maps and not been able to find them. However, I will look at the website that you suggest. > Re: Visiting Hemel Hempstead and surrounds in early June > (Peter Jarman) > 2. Re: Visiting Hemel Hempstead and surrounds in early June > (Anne Peat) Regards, Elizabeth McMillan (Working in Samoa until mid May 2009) Email: [email protected] (gets me anytime, any place)

    05/18/2008 05:20:45
    1. Re: [HRT] Andrew Gaddesden and Flamstead
    2. Pat Wade
    3. Hi Angela, Thank you very much for the offer. I have Thomas ANDREWS/ANDERSON and Sarah (don't have the marriage yet) who I believe had Eleanor Nov 1773, Martha Apr 1778, Rebecca Mar 1779, George Feb 1780, Mary May 1781 all baptized in Flamstead. The family then moved to Great Gaddesden. I would be interested if any of these died - I have not had the film as yet. Martha married in 1801 in Great Gaddesden. Thank you Pat -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Angela Cox Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2008 7:54 PM To: hertfordshire rootsweb Subject: [HRT] Andrew Gaddesden and Flamstead Hi, Thanks to all who helped solve my messaging problem. I have found the National Archives to be a good source of online info. for Flamstead (I'm after Catlins) and Gaddesden. Just putting the place names into the search gets quite a few results mostly part of the papers of the Sebright estate which throws up a lot of stuff to do with land and property rentals. I've also got a copy of Flamstead MIs on the way so if I can be of any use tracking down burials just ask. Angela __________________________________________________ ________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/18/2008 02:29:05
    1. Re: [HRT] Marriage, Hertfordshire
    2. Sandra J Smith
    3. The Herts Marriage (Allen) Index is online at: http://www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/heritage1/HALS/indexes/ Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Marriage, Hertfordshire > From: "Roy Stockdill" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date sent: Sat, 17 May 2008 17:39:27 +0100 > Priority: normal > Subject: Re: [HRT] Marriage, Hertfordshire > Send reply to: [email protected] > >> From: "DAVID JUDD" <[email protected]> >> >> > Would any one be able to advise on a marriage which may have taken >> > place in Hertford circa 1710 of a William WELFORD to a Margaret >> > JUDD, these details obtained from "Family Search" and I am looking >> > for something more conclusive, dates location etc, any details, help >> > or advice appreciated, many thanks David Judd> >> >> Where did you get this from at FamilySearch? I can see no such >> marriage in the IGI, Ancestral File or Pedigree Resource File. >> >> I see spurious entries for William Welford but his supposed wife is >> shown purely as Mrs William Welford. However, these are LDS private >> submissions with no sources or evidence whatsover. >> >> There is the Allen Marriage Index for Hertfordshire at the Hertford >> Record Office but I'm not if this is online somewhere. You will >> probably > > > I don't know what happened to the last part of the final sentence, but I > intended to say you may have to go to the Hertford RO, or get someone > to go there for you, to look at it. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1453 - Release Date: 18/05/2008 09:31

    05/18/2008 02:01:34
    1. Re: [HRT] RC & LDS- Received via another Rootsweb List
    2. Roy Stockdill
    3. From: "cassy" <[email protected]> > Hi All > Has someone whose family where Catholic > I find it very hard to get my own families records > so I don't think it would matter who wanted to do > these records , > The Catholic Church would still object > If you can travel the distant (if they are not local ) the parish > priest will let you check the records but this also depends on the > priest These records are our families so to me we should have ever > right to see them > > Cassy > Assistant Admin Black Country > Potteries, and Wolverhampton Lists I'm afraid the Catholic Church doesn't share your view. It has always been secretive about its records - just as it about virtually everything else, in fact. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    05/18/2008 01:00:43