Paul, I can't help with the burial places ( though there is no cemetery apart from the Jewish one in Bushey, so they are likely to have been buried in one of the Watford Cemeteries. But I would throw some doubt on your reasoning that the two Frederick LUDDINGTONs are the same man. The Frederick LUDDINGTON married to Lydia is in the 1881 and 1901 census with her in Hertfordshire - 1881 in Tring and 1901 in Bushey. His birth date is 1849/50. So he would be very unlikely to marry in 1864 since he would only be 14 years old. He is a bootmaker In 1871 he was in the Army at Aldershot 1871 England Census about Fredk Luddington Name: Fredk Luddington Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Gender: Male Where born: Lavingdon, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Aldershot County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Occupation: Private Condition as to marriage: unmarried Registration district: Farnham Sub registration district: Frimley ED, institution, or vessel: Army Service Corps On the other hand, he is not quite sure of his age - in the 1851 census he is 6 1851 England Census about Frederick Luddington Name: Frederick Luddington Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Lavendon, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Lavendon County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub registration district: Fenny Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 148 Household Members: Name Age Ann Luddington 31 Eduard Luddington 8 Eliza Luddington 1 Fanny Luddington 11 Frederick Luddington 6 James Luddington 31 Mary Ann Luddington 4 Susan Luddington 13 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1723; Folio: 559; Page: 37; In 1861 this one appears to be with his widowed father in Islington 1861 England Census about Frederick B Ladington Name: Frederick B Ladington Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: James B Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Household schedule number: 690 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Ladington 4 Frederick B Ladington 15 James B Ladington 41 Mary A Ladington 14 Thomas L Ladington 5 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 147; Folio: 57; Page: 24; I can't find your other Frederick Luddington, nor Susannah in any censuses - the only mention of them is the marriage in Wellingborough in 1864. What does it say on the marriage certificate about his occupation and father's name? Anne On 11 Jun 2008, at 13:17, Paul Luddington wrote: > Hi All > Would anyone be able to help? I am trying to find the burial > places for a Frederick Luddington, who died 9 May 1917, at Sparrows > Avenue, Bushy, Herts. > And Lydia Luddington, who died in march 1918, at Watford, Herts., > (reg district, waiting for death cert). > I would like to try to find out if they were buried in the same place. > The reason for this if that I believe that Frederick had another > family in Northamptonshire? I believe that he is the Frederick who > married a Susannah Berrill, in 1864 and had 6 children by her up to > 1887. > Whilst being married to Lydia, march 1874, in Farnham Surrey and > having 7 children by her, (1875 to 1892). > I am just trying to gather all the info I can before making up my > mind? > Thank you for your time. > > Regards > Paul Luddington > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 1408 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

https://www.hertsdirect.org/ufs/ufsmain?esessionid=2 allen index is online, click above and it should take you straight there. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: "J POTTER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Mole Family > Maree > Have you tried e-mailing the archives in Hertford they have a marriage > Index think it's called Allen index. They are very helpful -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6596 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi All Would anyone be able to help? I am trying to find the burial places for a Frederick Luddington, who died 9 May 1917, at Sparrows Avenue, Bushy, Herts. And Lydia Luddington, who died in march 1918, at Watford, Herts., (reg district, waiting for death cert). I would like to try to find out if they were buried in the same place. The reason for this if that I believe that Frederick had another family in Northamptonshire? I believe that he is the Frederick who married a Susannah Berrill, in 1864 and had 6 children by her up to 1887. Whilst being married to Lydia, march 1874, in Farnham Surrey and having 7 children by her, (1875 to 1892). I am just trying to gather all the info I can before making up my mind? Thank you for your time. Regards Paul Luddington -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1408 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Try this: <http://www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/heritage1/HALS/indexes/> the indexes are online, as given on this list by Anne Peat in January this year, and subsequently by several others. JK > Have you tried e-mailing the archives in Hertford they have a > marriage Index think it's called Allen index. They are very helpful

Maree Have you tried e-mailing the archives in Hertford they have a marriage Index think it's called Allen index. They are very helpful Jeanne Stephen & Maree Croxon <[email protected]> wrote: Hello my name is Maree Croxon and I am researching my father's mother's family. Simon Mould came out as a convict in the 1790 but I have found that his father Simon Mole was born in Much Hadham, hertford and christened on 7 June 1751. Simon was the son of William and Susannah. I have found children for this couple as below but no marriage or other records for the parents. William Mole christened 11 Oct 1746 Simon Mole christened 7 June 1751 John Mole christened 12 April 1754 William Mole christened 11 June 1757 Mary Mole christened 24 November, 1759 Joseph Mole christened 24 November, 1759 James Mole christened 4 Jul 1764 All the children were born in Much Hadham, hertford, but it seems when they moved to Middlesex most of the family went with them. I know that it is getting a fair way back but what information would be available from Parish records would there be the parishes the parents came from? The name seems to have changed sometimes being Mole/Moles/Mold/Mould/Moulds which is understandable considering spelling and writing mistakes. Anyone who could help me with this family I would appreciate any advise or help you could give me. Thanks in advance. Maree Croxon Yenda, NSW, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A thought ... Assuming Frances was the widow of Benjamin CHERRY, it is possible that she remarried under her maiden name to avoid press and local comment about the circumstances of her previous husband's death. Probably a good idea, especially if there were stories about ghosts, etc., to start another round of local gossip. After all, there is no legal objection to using a maiden name providing there is no intent to deceive her new husband. Michael Walsby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Saari" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Cherry/Orme/Webb > > Thank you, Listers, for your help and suggestions. > > "Hertfordshire 1731 - 1800 as recorded in Gentleman's Magazine" was found > using the Google Book Search feature. Some of the books are searchable on > line. For others there is a find the nearest library using your postal > code. > > Some of your answers indicated the problem, if Frances were a widow, > wouldn't she be remarried under her married name, CHERRY, rather than her > maiden name ORME? Frances came from a reasonably influencial family, her > grandfather was a viscount, her uncle a marquess, her mother an honourable, > her father retired from the Cold stream Guards. Would they have thought the > son of a dead [under iffy circumstances] butcher/cattle dealer/alderman a > poor choice and annulled the marriage [tho a bit late after its been in the > papers]. How could I find out? > > Thank you, also, for the reminder to check the CHERRY wills. There were > several generations of Bens. 0ne who fell/jumped into his own moat [1785] > is supposed to haunt his old neighbourhood. Another died 1817 after being > Hertford's town clerk for 21 years. > > Richard WEBB and Mary are no relation. Starting with Richard Holden WEBB, > this line all have 2 names, i.e. Frances's grandson Robert Orme WEBB. > > Thanks again for your thoughts. > Valerie Saari > > > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:19 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] Cherry/Orme/Webb > > >> Hi Valerie, >> >> Try this website and do a search for Webb - you will find Richard Holden >> Webb and his wife Frances. They are talking about a property the family >> owned. >> >> I looked in Family Search and found the marriage for Richard Holden Webb >> and >> Frances but nothing for Benjamin Cherry and Frances Orme. >> >> By the way, how did you find out the information from the Gentleman's >> Magazine? Is it online? >> >> Regards >> >> Diana >> >> Re: According to Gentleman's Mag, Frances ORME [sister of Rev. Robert >> ORME] >> married Benjamin CHERRY [son of the late alderman of Hertford] at >> Essenden >> in 1791. >> However the Essenden church records state that Frances ORME married >> Richard >> Holden WEBB in 1797. In his 1843 will, Rev Robert ORME refers to Richard >> Holden WEBB as his bro in law. >> Can anyone help me sort this out. >> >> Regards >> Valerie Saari >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maybe Benjamin CHERRY died between 1791 and 1797 and Frances ORME remarried? I'd look for a death of Benjamin Cherry given that it is a short period of time. The other alternative is that Benjamin disappeared shortly after the marriage and Frances didn't really consider herself married???????? Good luck Marlene Valerie Saari wrote: > According to Gentleman's Mag, Frances ORME [sister of Rev. Robert ORME] > married Benjamin CHERRY [son of the late alderman of Hertford] at Essenden > in 1791. > However the Essenden church records state that Frances ORME married Richard > Holden WEBB in 1797. In his 1843 will, Rev Robert ORME refers to Richard > Holden WEBB as his bro in law. > Can anyone help me sort this out. > > Regards > Valerie Saari > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you, Listers, for your help and suggestions. "Hertfordshire 1731 - 1800 as recorded in Gentleman's Magazine" was found using the Google Book Search feature. Some of the books are searchable on line. For others there is a find the nearest library using your postal code. Some of your answers indicated the problem, if Frances were a widow, wouldn't she be remarried under her married name, CHERRY, rather than her maiden name ORME? Frances came from a reasonably influencial family, her grandfather was a viscount, her uncle a marquess, her mother an honourable, her father retired from the Cold stream Guards. Would they have thought the son of a dead [under iffy circumstances] butcher/cattle dealer/alderman a poor choice and annulled the marriage [tho a bit late after its been in the papers]. How could I find out? Thank you, also, for the reminder to check the CHERRY wills. There were several generations of Bens. 0ne who fell/jumped into his own moat [1785] is supposed to haunt his old neighbourhood. Another died 1817 after being Hertford's town clerk for 21 years. Richard WEBB and Mary are no relation. Starting with Richard Holden WEBB, this line all have 2 names, i.e. Frances's grandson Robert Orme WEBB. Thanks again for your thoughts. Valerie Saari . ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Cherry/Orme/Webb > Hi Valerie, > > Try this website and do a search for Webb - you will find Richard Holden > Webb and his wife Frances. They are talking about a property the family > owned. > > I looked in Family Search and found the marriage for Richard Holden Webb > and > Frances but nothing for Benjamin Cherry and Frances Orme. > > By the way, how did you find out the information from the Gentleman's > Magazine? Is it online? > > Regards > > Diana > > Re: According to Gentleman's Mag, Frances ORME [sister of Rev. Robert > ORME] > married Benjamin CHERRY [son of the late alderman of Hertford] at > Essenden > in 1791. > However the Essenden church records state that Frances ORME married > Richard > Holden WEBB in 1797. In his 1843 will, Rev Robert ORME refers to Richard > Holden WEBB as his bro in law. > Can anyone help me sort this out. > > Regards > Valerie Saari > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've recently scanned in my father's collection of photographs from the 1950s, when he was manager of the Regent Cinema, Waltham Cross, and uploaded to my Picasa site. They are of limited appeal, but if anyone cares to look please do so: <http://picasaweb.google.com/gen2mail/ RegentCinemaWalthamCrossHertfordshire> He used to arrange film advertising with local shops, sometimes giving complimentary tickets, sometimes in exchange for some kind of advertising in the cinema foyer. JK

Well of course anything is possible , but it was under the heading " Married " ........ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Cherry/Orme/Webb > Re: However the Times of April 20th 1791 has " Sunday at Essendon > church, Benjamin Cherry esq of Hertford to Miss Frances Orme, sister to > the > Revd Robert Orme of All Saints , Hertford ." so clearly they did get > married ... > > > Ah, but was this a marriage to be held or was this a posting of a marriage > already been held? Could be that if the former, someone didn't turn up or > the > marriage was called off? > > Diana > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1490 - Release Date: 6/8/2008 5:32 PM

Hi, Check out this site: _http://www.compassion-in-business.co.uk/brickendon/brick2.htm_ (http://www.compassion-in-business.co.uk/brickendon/brick2.htm) Also, found another version of Benjamin's death: Jenningsbury Farm The ghost which haunts Jenningsbury Farm is believed to be that of Benjamin Cherry who killed himself for no known reason just before Christmas 1785. Cherry was an Alderman of Hertford and an eminent butcher and cattle dealer who, when he died, left a fortune of some £30,000. On the day when he died Cherry had been talking to the bailiff at his farm. He sent the man off to turn out some people who were in an adjoining field then it is said that he threw himself into the moat. When the bailiff returned he tried to revive Benjamin Cherry but it was too late. For many years after the event Cherry’s spirit would roam the farm, shake the well bucket and chain and generally cause alarm to the residents of the farmhouse. He was also known to appear in the road alongside the farm where he would frighten travellers. According to legend his spirit would never appear after midnight. Perhaps it would be an idea to find Cherry's will to see if Frances was in it?: The Grange estate originated in copyhold and freehold land of the manor of Brickendon Bury, purchased by Benjamin Cherry of Hertford, gent., and by him bequeathed to his brother John Cherry. The mansion now known as the Grange was built by Benjamin son of John Cherry about the middle of the last century. The property has recently been sold by Mr. B. L. Cherry, grandson of Benjamin Cherry, to Mr. John Trotter, who resides at the Grange. From: 'Parishes: Hertford (All Saints' & St John's)', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 409-414. Diana

Okay, so Frances did get married to Benjamin Cherry in 1791 - and perhaps this is him in this article on the web which explains his early demise! Perhaps Frances used her maiden name when she married again? Diana There are several other tales with a connection to Brickendon or WWE in Haunted Hertfordshire. One involves the bizarre tale of a Benjamin Cherry of Jenningsbury near Hertford Heath who killed himself, apparently by accident, by jumping into the moat at his home in December 1785 and his ghost was said to haunt the estate for years afterwards. Mr Cherry, an alderman of Hertford, is described as an eminent butcher and cattle dealer, and would appear to have been the grandfather of the Benjamin Cherry who built Brickendon Grange. Re: Well of course anything is possible , but it was under the heading " Married " ........ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Cherry/Orme/Webb > Re: However the Times of April 20th 1791 has " Sunday at Essendon > church, Benjamin Cherry esq of Hertford to Miss Frances Orme, sister to > the > Revd Robert Orme of All Saints , Hertford ." so clearly they did get > married ... > > > Ah, but was this a marriage to be held or was this a posting of a marriage > already been held? Could be that if the former, someone didn't turn up or > the > marriage was called off? > > Diana > > >

Hi , the Cambridge Uni Alumni has a very interesting entry for the Rev Robert Orme , and it says he is the son of Robert Orme of Devonshire and the Netherlands , and Audrey dau of Charles , Viscount Townshend . Robert was ordained Norwich 1784 and was R of Essenden , Chaplain in Ordinary to the King , etc and died aged 83 in 1843 ......................in the 1841 there is a Richard Webb with wife Mary in the parish of Northaw , and perhaps by coincidence a Benjamin Cherry with a wife Charlotte . Richard Holden Webb`s will is on documents online he is of Custom House, London and the will is dated 1851 ........there are two Benjamin Cherry wills , one of a gentleman of Hertford is dated 1817 . Interestingly in the A2A site there is an undated copy of a draft bond , the Bishop of Exeter to Benj Cherry to secure £2,500 marriage portion of Charlotte Cassandra Philpotts , dau of the Bishop and future wife of Benj Cherry . And again in A2A there is a reference to a draft mortgage 1881-1886 of Robert Orme Webb, Commander RN , and a reversionary share under the will of the late Revd Robert Orme of Essendon ........ However the Times of April 20th 1791 has " Sunday at Essendon church, Benjamin Cherry esq of Hertford to Miss Frances Orme, sister to the Revd Robert Orme of All Saints , Hertford ." so clearly they did get married ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Saari" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: [HRT] Cherry/Orme/Webb > According to Gentleman's Mag, Frances ORME [sister of Rev. Robert ORME] > married Benjamin CHERRY [son of the late alderman of Hertford] at Essenden > in 1791. > However the Essenden church records state that Frances ORME married > Richard > Holden WEBB in 1797. In his 1843 will, Rev Robert ORME refers to Richard > Holden WEBB as his bro in law. > Can anyone help me sort this out. > > Regards > Valerie Saari > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM

Had another thought... The entry in the Gentleman's Magazine is not proof that an actual marriage took place. It could have been an intended marriage which actually never took place. (Groom died/ Bride changed her mind) The marriage entry for 1797 should state whether or not she was a widow. Try looking for a marriage licence. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Saari" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: [HRT] Cherry/Orme/Webb > According to Gentleman's Mag, Frances ORME [sister of Rev. Robert ORME] > married Benjamin CHERRY [son of the late alderman of Hertford] at Essenden > in 1791. > However the Essenden church records state that Frances ORME married > Richard > Holden WEBB in 1797. In his 1843 will, Rev Robert ORME refers to Richard > Holden WEBB as his bro in law. > Can anyone help me sort this out. > > Regards > Valerie Saari > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 http://www.iolo.com

Just a suggestion... Could Benjamin Cherry have died and Francis remarried? Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Saari" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: [HRT] Cherry/Orme/Webb > According to Gentleman's Mag, Frances ORME [sister of Rev. Robert ORME] > married Benjamin CHERRY [son of the late alderman of Hertford] at Essenden > in 1791. > However the Essenden church records state that Frances ORME married > Richard > Holden WEBB in 1797. In his 1843 will, Rev Robert ORME refers to Richard > Holden WEBB as his bro in law. > Can anyone help me sort this out. > > Regards > Valerie Saari > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 http://www.iolo.com

Re: However the Times of April 20th 1791 has " Sunday at Essendon church, Benjamin Cherry esq of Hertford to Miss Frances Orme, sister to the Revd Robert Orme of All Saints , Hertford ." so clearly they did get married ... Ah, but was this a marriage to be held or was this a posting of a marriage already been held? Could be that if the former, someone didn't turn up or the marriage was called off? Diana

Hi Valerie, Try this website and do a search for Webb - you will find Richard Holden Webb and his wife Frances. They are talking about a property the family owned. I looked in Family Search and found the marriage for Richard Holden Webb and Frances but nothing for Benjamin Cherry and Frances Orme. By the way, how did you find out the information from the Gentleman's Magazine? Is it online? Regards Diana Re: According to Gentleman's Mag, Frances ORME [sister of Rev. Robert ORME] married Benjamin CHERRY [son of the late alderman of Hertford] at Essenden in 1791. However the Essenden church records state that Frances ORME married Richard Holden WEBB in 1797. In his 1843 will, Rev Robert ORME refers to Richard Holden WEBB as his bro in law. Can anyone help me sort this out. Regards Valerie Saari

According to Gentleman's Mag, Frances ORME [sister of Rev. Robert ORME] married Benjamin CHERRY [son of the late alderman of Hertford] at Essenden in 1791. However the Essenden church records state that Frances ORME married Richard Holden WEBB in 1797. In his 1843 will, Rev Robert ORME refers to Richard Holden WEBB as his bro in law. Can anyone help me sort this out. Regards Valerie Saari

Hi, I can't help you specifically with the Quaker records... but I am close to Buntingford, so if there are any addresses or churches you have connections with, I will happily go and take photos for you. The other church in the locality was Layston church.. now derelict, but very active in the past, so you may come across that in your searches. Diane > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:03:25 +1000> To: [email protected]> From: [email protected]> Subject: [HRT] MILES and EDRIDGE families of Buntingford (1700s)> > > I have in my family's records a marriage certificate for Turner > MILES marrying Mary EDRIDGE on 13 July 1738 at a Buntingford Quaker > Meeting held on that day. I have discovered that Turner was the 7th > child (of 10 children) of William and Mary MILES of Watton at Stone, > Hertford and his bride Mary, was the eldest (of two) daughters of > George and Ruth EDRIDGE of Buntingford.> > I know nothing of the Turner Miles family after the marriage - I > assume records need to be chased through the Quaker record system (I > have not had any experience with Quaker records). I would love to > know what happened to this family. I would be most appreciative of > any information anyone can pass on regarding this family - or any > guidance in dealing with local Quaker records of the time.> > Janet, Sydney Australia. > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000002ukm/direct/01/

I have in my family's records a marriage certificate for Turner MILES marrying Mary EDRIDGE on 13 July 1738 at a Buntingford Quaker Meeting held on that day. I have discovered that Turner was the 7th child (of 10 children) of William and Mary MILES of Watton at Stone, Hertford and his bride Mary, was the eldest (of two) daughters of George and Ruth EDRIDGE of Buntingford. I know nothing of the Turner Miles family after the marriage - I assume records need to be chased through the Quaker record system (I have not had any experience with Quaker records). I would love to know what happened to this family. I would be most appreciative of any information anyone can pass on regarding this family - or any guidance in dealing with local Quaker records of the time. Janet, Sydney Australia.