Did you check the non- conforming churches? Regards Valerie Saari ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Wade" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Tringford > Hi Julie, > > Thank you for your email. I did note all WADE > entries for Tring when I had the film as all > entries could be connected to my family. There > was not all that many and in fact I know that one > generation did not have their children baptized. > > Regards, > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 2:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HRT] Tringford > > Dear Pat, > > Hi there, did you take a note of all the WADEs of > Tring? As you know I am > trying to connect my WADEs to this place. My > husband's Aunt once said that > his Wades were connected but the last time I saw > her she couldnt remember > having said it. > > Take care, > > Julie (WADE nee ABDEY GB) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Dear Pat, Would it be possible to let me have the inmformation again please, if you have confirmed baptismal dates etc then that is great. Take care, will get back to you if I see any other obvious connections. Julie
Hi, I have just down loaded a Will which I think might be my husbands 6G Grandfather Richard WADE. I have had the parish film of records for TRING which started with a marriage of John WADE (5G Grandfather) and Mary KEMPSTER in 1731. The Will refers to Richard WADE of Tringford in the Parish of Tring in the County of Hertford. If the earlier generations didn't baptize and marry at Tring what other possibilities for parish records that I could look?? Richards death appears to have been around 1713 -1724. The will written in 1713 and the probate 1724. His son John didn't marry until 1731. Thank you Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King)
Pat, as well as looking in the Hertfordhire parishes around Tring ( Aldbury, Long Marston, Puttenham etc) you should also look over the country borders in Buckinghamshire around Ivinghoe and even in Bedfordshire around Whipsnade. Anne On 15 Jun 2008, at 12:42, Pat Wade wrote: > Hi, > > I have just down loaded a Will which I think might > be my husbands 6G Grandfather Richard WADE. > > I have had the parish film of records for TRING > which started with a marriage of John WADE (5G > Grandfather) and Mary KEMPSTER in 1731. > > The Will refers to Richard WADE of Tringford in > the Parish of Tring in the County of Hertford. > > If the earlier generations didn't baptize and > marry at Tring what other possibilities for parish > records that I could look?? > > Richards death appears to have been around 1713 > -1724. The will written in 1713 and the probate > 1724. His son John didn't marry until 1731. > > Thank you > > Regards, > Pat Wade (Nee King) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
Hi, you could get a parish map of Hertfordshire and try all the parishes around Tring .....you could check the Allen Marriage index and see where the Wades are clustered , if they are clustered , and for more wills both PCC and Herts ....... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Wade" <[email protected]> To: "Hertford" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: [HRT] Tringford > Hi, > > I have just down loaded a Will which I think might > be my husbands 6G Grandfather Richard WADE. > > I have had the parish film of records for TRING > which started with a marriage of John WADE (5G > Grandfather) and Mary KEMPSTER in 1731. > > The Will refers to Richard WADE of Tringford in > the Parish of Tring in the County of Hertford. > > If the earlier generations didn't baptize and > marry at Tring what other possibilities for parish > records that I could look?? > > Richards death appears to have been around 1713 > -1724. The will written in 1713 and the probate > 1724. His son John didn't marry until 1731. > > Thank you > > Regards, > Pat Wade (Nee King) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1503 - Release Date: 6/14/2008 6:02 PM
Dear Pat, Hi there, did you take a note of all the WADEs of Tring? As you know I am trying to connect my WADEs to this place. My husband's Aunt once said that his Wades were connected but the last time I saw her she couldnt remember having said it. Take care, Julie (WADE nee ABDEY GB)
Lisa Please send me a pdf copy to see if this William Hale is mine Thanks Janet> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:43:39 +1200> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [HRT] Will of William HALE, Ware, on offer> > Hi listers,> > I have the will of a William Warren Hale, proved 1852 in Ware. Turns out > he's probably not one of mine but hopefully it can be of use to others!> > Please let me know if you'd like a pdf copy.> > Cheers,> Lisa> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ All new Live Search at Live.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000006ukm/direct/01/
Hi listers, I have the will of a William Warren Hale, proved 1852 in Ware. Turns out he's probably not one of mine but hopefully it can be of use to others! Please let me know if you'd like a pdf copy. Cheers, Lisa
Thanks to both Elizabeth and Janet for your replies, it would explain a lot if indeed if Elizabeth died at such a young age and Josh remarried. Janet your findings do fit in with times and I will certainly explore these further. Thanks again for your help. Pamela
Pamela, Could Elizabeth PAGE nee PACKFORD have died as there is a death registration on FreeBMD in the September qtr 1884 at Edmonton reg district (includes Cheshunt), vol 3a, page 219 of an Elizabeth PAGE, aged 24 which fits in very well with the 1881 census info you already have. Perhaps she died in childbirth or soon after and the Herbert H PAGE living with the Josh & Nellie PAGE in the 1901 census is in fact her son. This Herbert H PAGE is living with a relative in Ware in the 1891 census, the relatives being a Frederick and Sarah A SMITH both born Ware - do these names ring any bells. Could Josh PAGE have remarried a Nellie?? There is this Elizabeth PAGE who could perhaps be the daughter in the 1901 census of Sawbridgeworth, Herts: RG13/1286, folio 11, page 17 North End (The Bull) Elizabeth PAGE Boarder S 21 Essex Waltham Abbey She is living in the household of a Henry AVIS, Licensed Victualler. HTH Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Pam" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 3:14 AM Subject: [HRT] JOSH PAGE/ELIZABETH PACKFORD > Hi everyone > Is there anyone out there who can throw some light on Josh/Elizabeth. I > have them marrying in Ware in 1878. Children born to them were Elizabeth > b.1879 and William b.1880 both in Waltham Abbey. > The last I can find for all of them was in 1881 census living in Cheshunt > with William Packford (Elizabeths father). Please can anyone help,it would > be really appreciated. > > Regards > Pamela. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1501 - Release Date: 13/06/2008 06:33
Thanks so much Jan, I did find the Josh/Nellie and William that you did, but the Josh I am looking for was married to Elizabeth Packford and she was also born in Waltham Abbey the same as her children. Josh was the son of William and Mary Page of Hertfordshire (Ware) and Elizabeth was the daughter of William and Ann Packford of Waltham Abbey, William Packford I believe ran or lived at the OLD ENGLISH GENTLEMAN pub in Highbridge st, Waltham Abbey in the 1870's and is living (widowed) with son Charles in Cheshunt in 1891. Again Thank You Pam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] JOSH PAGE/ELIZABETH PACKFORD > 1891 census: > William Page, aged 17, born 1874 in Waltham, Herts. > Living with his parents: > Josiah Page b 1861 and Nellie Page b 1861. They are living in Shoreditch, > London. > ******** > 1901 census: > William Page b 1881 in Waltham, Herts. > Parents: Josh b 1857 Herts. and Nellie b 1861. > They are living in the Parish of Edmonton, Middlesex. > There is also another child listed: > Herbert H. Page b 1882 Waltham, Herts. > ******** > > Could this be what you seek? > > Jan > > --- On Thu, 6/12/08, Rod & Pam <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Rod & Pam <[email protected]> > Subject: [HRT] JOSH PAGE/ELIZABETH PACKFORD > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 10:14 PM > > Hi everyone > Is there anyone out there who can throw some light on Josh/Elizabeth. I > have > them marrying in Ware in 1878. Children born to them were Elizabeth b.1879 > and > William b.1880 both in Waltham Abbey. > The last I can find for all of them was in 1881 census living in Cheshunt > with > William Packford (Elizabeths father). Please can anyone help,it would be > really > appreciated. > > Regards > Pamela. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi everyone Is there anyone out there who can throw some light on Josh/Elizabeth. I have them marrying in Ware in 1878. Children born to them were Elizabeth b.1879 and William b.1880 both in Waltham Abbey. The last I can find for all of them was in 1881 census living in Cheshunt with William Packford (Elizabeths father). Please can anyone help,it would be really appreciated. Regards Pamela.
Hi , there is an Eliza Page aged 30 in the 1891 census in the Leavesden Asylum , her condition as to marriage and occupation and birthplace is unknown ........ There is also a William J Page , master of barge , 39, b Ware, with Ellen , wife, and children aged from 8 yrs to 5 months all b Ware living in Star St Ware , who might be Josh and Nellie ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Pam" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 4:37 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] JOSH PAGE/ELIZABETH PACKFORD > Thanks so much Jan, I did find the Josh/Nellie and William that you did, > but > the Josh I am looking for was married to Elizabeth Packford and she was > also > born in Waltham Abbey the same as her children. Josh was the son of > William > and Mary Page of Hertfordshire (Ware) and Elizabeth was the daughter of > William and Ann Packford of Waltham Abbey, William Packford I believe ran > or > lived at the OLD ENGLISH GENTLEMAN pub in Highbridge st, Waltham Abbey in > the 1870's and is living (widowed) with son Charles in Cheshunt in 1891. > Again Thank You > Pam. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] JOSH PAGE/ELIZABETH PACKFORD > > >> 1891 census: >> William Page, aged 17, born 1874 in Waltham, Herts. >> Living with his parents: >> Josiah Page b 1861 and Nellie Page b 1861. They are living in Shoreditch, >> London. >> ******** >> 1901 census: >> William Page b 1881 in Waltham, Herts. >> Parents: Josh b 1857 Herts. and Nellie b 1861. >> They are living in the Parish of Edmonton, Middlesex. >> There is also another child listed: >> Herbert H. Page b 1882 Waltham, Herts. >> ******** >> >> Could this be what you seek? >> >> Jan >> >> --- On Thu, 6/12/08, Rod & Pam <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: Rod & Pam <[email protected]> >> Subject: [HRT] JOSH PAGE/ELIZABETH PACKFORD >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 10:14 PM >> >> Hi everyone >> Is there anyone out there who can throw some light on Josh/Elizabeth. I >> have >> them marrying in Ware in 1878. Children born to them were Elizabeth >> b.1879 >> and >> William b.1880 both in Waltham Abbey. >> The last I can find for all of them was in 1881 census living in Cheshunt >> with >> William Packford (Elizabeths father). Please can anyone help,it would be >> really >> appreciated. >> >> Regards >> Pamela. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1499 - Release Date: 6/12/2008 7:13 AM
But there is a churchyard attached to the parish church, which would have been in use then. Donald Massey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <[email protected]> > I can't help with the burial places ( though there is no cemetery > apart from the Jewish one in Bushey, so they are likely to have been > buried in one of the Watford Cemeteries. But I would throw some doubt > on your reasoning that the two Frederick LUDDINGTONs are the same man. >
1891 census: William Page, aged 17, born 1874 in Waltham, Herts. Living with his parents: Josiah Page b 1861 and Nellie Page b 1861. They are living in Shoreditch, London. ******** 1901 census: William Page b 1881 in Waltham, Herts. Parents: Josh b 1857 Herts. and Nellie b 1861. They are living in the Parish of Edmonton, Middlesex. There is also another child listed: Herbert H. Page b 1882 Waltham, Herts. ******** Could this be what you seek? Jan --- On Thu, 6/12/08, Rod & Pam <[email protected]> wrote: From: Rod & Pam <[email protected]> Subject: [HRT] JOSH PAGE/ELIZABETH PACKFORD To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 10:14 PM Hi everyone Is there anyone out there who can throw some light on Josh/Elizabeth. I have them marrying in Ware in 1878. Children born to them were Elizabeth b.1879 and William b.1880 both in Waltham Abbey. The last I can find for all of them was in 1881 census living in Cheshunt with William Packford (Elizabeths father). Please can anyone help,it would be really appreciated. Regards Pamela. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
If some kind person on the list has the parish registers for Stevenage would they be able to look up the christening of Charlotte KITCHINER christened 6 Jun 1779 at Stevenage. Thank you Robyn Thorpe Brisbane, Australia
Hi Everyone, Would appreciate help please with finding the burial place of Jane Squire [spinster] who died at Fore St, Hertford [town] on 16/02/1864. Her parents , who lived in St Andrew's St, were buried in the St Andrew's C/E Churchyard, but I do not know if Fore Street would continue to make St Andrew's Church her local church. Noeline Mearing, Wollongong, NSW, Australia.
Hello my name is Maree Croxon and I am researching my father's mother's family. Simon Mould came out as a convict in the 1790 but I have found that his father Simon Mole was born in Much Hadham, hertford and christened on 7 June 1751. Simon was the son of William and Susannah. I have found children for this couple as below but no marriage or other records for the parents. William Mole christened 11 Oct 1746 Simon Mole christened 7 June 1751 John Mole christened 12 April 1754 William Mole christened 11 June 1757 Mary Mole christened 24 November, 1759 Joseph Mole christened 24 November, 1759 James Mole christened 4 Jul 1764 All the children were born in Much Hadham, hertford, but it seems when they moved to Middlesex most of the family went with them. I know that it is getting a fair way back but what information would be available from Parish records would there be the parishes the parents came from? The name seems to have changed sometimes being Mole/Moles/Mold/Mould/Moulds which is understandable considering spelling and writing mistakes. Anyone who could help me with this family I would appreciate any advise or help you could give me. Thanks in advance. Maree Croxon Yenda, NSW, Australia
Hi Paul, I can see your thought processes here. Susannah is in no census with a husband even though she says she's married & there is no other obvious Frederick born anywhere to be a suitable husband. In 1881 although Frederick & Lydia have children 6, 3 & 1 born in Ireland, Susannah has a convenient gap between her 6 yr & 9mth olds to make it feasible. However, it is quite a journey from Bushey to Bozeat & what excuse would a bootmaker make to each woman to account for his absences. Do you have both marriage certs. showing the same details for the father? Is that why you think it's the same man? If you don't have them I suggest you purchase them. If you do then you may be correct. Regards, Glen. Paul Luddington <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All Would anyone be able to help? I am trying to find the burial places for a Frederick Luddington, who died 9 May 1917, at Sparrows Avenue, Bushy, Herts. And Lydia Luddington, who died in march 1918, at Watford, Herts., (reg district, waiting for death cert). I would like to try to find out if they were buried in the same place. The reason for this if that I believe that Frederick had another family in Northamptonshire? I believe that he is the Frederick who married a Susannah Berrill, in 1864 and had 6 children by her up to 1887. Whilst being married to Lydia, march 1874, in Farnham Surrey and having 7 children by her, (1875 to 1892). I am just trying to gather all the info I can before making up my mind? Thank you for your time. Regards Paul Luddington -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1408 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Just to help, it would have been Sparrows Herne Bushey or The Avenue. The Cemetery is at St James Churchyard in the High St. Michael 2008/6/11 Anne Peat <[email protected]>: > Paul, > I can't help with the burial places ( though there is no cemetery > apart from the Jewish one in Bushey, so they are likely to have been > buried in one of the Watford Cemeteries. But I would throw some doubt > on your reasoning that the two Frederick LUDDINGTONs are the same man. > > The Frederick LUDDINGTON married to Lydia is in the 1881 and 1901 > census with her in Hertfordshire - 1881 in Tring and 1901 in Bushey. > His birth date is 1849/50. So he would be very unlikely to marry in > 1864 since he would only be 14 years old. He is a bootmaker > In 1871 he was in the Army at Aldershot > > > 1871 England Census > about Fredk Luddington > Name: Fredk Luddington > Age: 21 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 > Gender: Male > Where born: Lavingdon, Buckinghamshire, England > Civil Parish: Aldershot > County/Island: Hampshire > Country: England > Occupation: Private > > Condition as to marriage: unmarried > Registration district: Farnham > Sub registration district: Frimley > ED, institution, or vessel: Army Service Corps > > On the other hand, he is not quite sure of his age - in the 1851 > census he is 6 > > > > 1851 England Census > about Frederick Luddington > Name: Frederick Luddington > Age: 6 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 > Relation: Son > Father's Name: James > Mother's Name: Ann > Gender: Male > Where born: Lavendon, Buckinghamshire, England > > Civil Parish: Lavendon > County/Island: Buckinghamshire > Country: England > > Registration district: Newport Pagnell > Sub registration district: Fenny Stratford > ED, institution, or vessel: 8 > Neighbors: View others on page > Household schedule number: 148 > Household Members: > Name Age > Ann Luddington 31 > Eduard Luddington 8 > Eliza Luddington 1 > Fanny Luddington 11 > Frederick Luddington 6 > James Luddington 31 > Mary Ann Luddington 4 > Susan Luddington 13 > > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1723; Folio: 559; Page: 37; > > In 1861 this one appears to be with his widowed father in Islington > > > 1861 England Census > about Frederick B Ladington > Name: Frederick B Ladington > Age: 15 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 > Relation: Son > Father's Name: James B > Gender: Male > Where born: Buckinghamshire, England > > Civil Parish: Islington > Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip > County/Island: Middlesex > Country: England > Registration district: Islington > Sub registration district: Islington East > ED, institution, or vessel: 38 > > Household schedule number: 690 > Household Members: > Name Age > Elizabeth Ladington 4 > Frederick B Ladington 15 > James B Ladington 41 > Mary A Ladington 14 > Thomas L Ladington 5 > > Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 147; Folio: 57; Page: 24; > > I can't find your other Frederick Luddington, nor Susannah in any > censuses - the only mention of them is the marriage in Wellingborough > in 1864. What does it say on the marriage certificate about his > occupation and father's name? > > Anne > > > On 11 Jun 2008, at 13:17, Paul Luddington wrote: > > > Hi All > > Would anyone be able to help? I am trying to find the burial > > places for a Frederick Luddington, who died 9 May 1917, at Sparrows > > Avenue, Bushy, Herts. > > And Lydia Luddington, who died in march 1918, at Watford, Herts., > > (reg district, waiting for death cert). > > I would like to try to find out if they were buried in the same place. > > The reason for this if that I believe that Frederick had another > > family in Northamptonshire? I believe that he is the Frederick who > > married a Susannah Berrill, in 1864 and had 6 children by her up to > > 1887. > > Whilst being married to Lydia, march 1874, in Farnham Surrey and > > having 7 children by her, (1875 to 1892). > > I am just trying to gather all the info I can before making up my > > mind? > > Thank you for your time. > > > > Regards > > Paul Luddington > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 1408 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >