Hi Interesting subject! From afar I have vastly differing experiences! ENGLAND I am NOT allowed details of a patient at an asylum who died in 1910 although I have the Death Cert and know the cause of death! I applied in May 2008 because I knew it was 100 years since the Admisson! Privacy Law was cited. I AM allowed information on house ownership, burial details etc for someone who died in 1981. I have Patient Records and Death Certs for the 1940s. AUSTRALIA Burials and Cemetery info is easily obtainable. Wills are available up to the 1990s (my latest). I have had no problem getting certs. The info is available on CD up to about 1920. I think it very much depends on the organisation from whom you are seeking information! The NZ Genealogical Society has published a CD where I am listed as deceased because my name appears on the gravestones of my father and brother! THAT has to be a lesson for all of us! However I do think it is bad manners to publish details of living persons on Web sites but so many Colonials do it in the hope of finding the family "back home"! Many sites have a Personal Message capability which I prefer to use. Cheers Marlene New Zealand Celia Renshaw wrote: > In the UK, it is still [for the time being] possible to get BMD certificates > for anyone, at least up to & incl. 2005, maybe right up to the present, I'm > not an expert. Even just using the GRO indexes in the 20th/21st centuries > can yield good results. After mid-1912ish, the birth indexes include > mother's maiden name which is usually a big help. And the death indexes > from some date before 1984 [when things went computerised], include the > deceased's date of birth too [though its accuracy depends on how well the > informant knew the deceased!]. I understand there's an official project > underway to include mother's maiden name and possibly other additional info > in the online GRO indexes pre-1912, but that is running very much later than > planned and not yet available - I'm sure there are people here know more > about that than me. > > I know our system differs from other countries, Australia as an example, > where there's a 100 year 'gag rule' on BMD certs unless you can prove it's > for yourself or immediate family -am I right? I had an Ozzie rellie a few > years ago threw a big wobbly and stopped speaking to me when I passed on > some 'living people' details to other trusted, close-researchers because she > thought they would publish them on a website which she said, in Australia, > was illegal? But I'm not sure how that works when the web is global - in > the UK I'm pretty sure it's not illegal, just bad form in some people's > opinion... at least that's true so far... people keep hinting things like > this could change. > > Despite having supposedly open access to our certs and the info they hold, > it is still more difficult to trace living people than the dead ones in the > UK, but trackers like those featured in the programme will, I imagine, have > subs to services like 992.com [or is it 922?] which hold various databases > such as electoral registers, phone directories etc - on that website, you > can do initial searches for free, but there's a [modest] sub payable to view > details. I've no doubt there are companies producing much more of this kind > of info for a fairly hefty charge, one reason why the heir-hunters take a > percentage cut. Though whether the recent changes to Data Protection and > Freedom of Info have affected things I dunno. > > As I write this, I realise how fuzzy I am about the details on all this. No > doubt others can advise me! > > Cheers, > Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: 18 July 2008 10:20 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters > > I also have been watching 'Heir Hunters' and wonder, 'how do they trace the > children/grandchildren born after 1901? How do they find their names and > where they live? > > Sheila > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Elizabeth Thanks, I have the documents you list & all the wills I can find. In his will he is Thomas Fuller, late of Woodhall in Arkesden, since of Bishops Stortford, now Kensington Middlesex dated 1813 proved 1820. He left money for the education of William Wight Cribb son of William Obadiah Cribb of B Stortford ? related to the Davies family. I have tracked down most of the people in his will . Thanks for looking Jo

Besides being able to reconstruct family trees from the BMD indices after 1911, because of the inclusion of mother's maiden name and spouse surname, it is possible to purchase a printout from the 1911 census for an address on the payment of a large fee. Fraser and Fraser did this on one of the programs last week. Presumably, the size of the estate, justified the expenditure. I personally have reconstructed dozens of family trees after 1911 as part of my one-name FOSKETT study. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters >I also have been watching 'Heir Hunters' and wonder, 'how do they trace the > children/grandchildren born after 1901? How do they find their names and > where they live? > > Sheila > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 http://www.iolo.com

and yet, when I asked about my father's records from a psychiatric hospital they had them to me within a couple of weeks - I was stunned! > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:05:36 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters > > I ran across the same issue while trying to obtain British home child records about my grandmother, who was sent to Canada from Liverpool in 1907. I had to fill out an application and have her next of kin (my mom or aunt) give signed permission for me to obtain the records. Then it took 3 months to finally get the copies. > > Jan > Ontario > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, hey wyre wrote: > > From: hey wyre > Subject: Re: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 9:48 AM > > In Canada, if you want particular information that is not yours you have to show > proof that you are related AND proof that the person you are requesting > information about has been dead for at least 20 years. Otherwise, you must > obtain their signature and approval to do so > > With regard to my father's military records, they insist the oldest child > of the family request them. However, the oldest child in our family is NOT my > father's child so he has absolutely no interest in obtaining them. The > second method is to get the signtures of ALL the siblings saying it is ok for > you to obtain them. With there being 7 siblings in my family, spread all over > the country, obtaining permission from each and every one would be fruitless - > I am still waiting for my brother (who handled my father's burial after he > died) to send me a copy of his death certificate (my father died in 1986 - so > you can see my dilemma) > > This is no easy "hobby" sometimes, that's for sure > > Judy > BC Canada > _________________________________________________________________ > If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which > combines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212

My email came back to me for some reason , I cut and pasted from A2A and perhaps this is the problem Hi, although I can`t find any reference to any of them in A2A there is a later Thomas Fuller will of 1781 of Saffron Walden ....and a will of an Ann Fuller of Walden , 1735 ...another Thomas of S W dated 1757 ... a John Fuller, woolstapler of S W dated 1780 ...Hannah widow of S W dated 1793 .... And long windedly , in the Essex Record Office on A2A is Process and Cognate records insolvent debtors ,Q/SPd 1 - 4. , Account books kept by insolvent debtors before their imprisonment File Q SPd 3/1 1824 - 1842 Abstract of title to property at Hadstock 1739 -1827 copy of will of John Fuller 1785 copy of surrender 1770 extracts from parish registers 1744 - 1813 relating to the Fuller family of Saffron Walden catalogue of a sale by auction of a bankrupts farm at Downham 1829 ....etc etc.

Please is anyone researching the family of Andrew FULLER who died before 1752, according to the 1752 will of his brother Thomas FULLER of Saffron Walden [Andrew ?late of Melbourn Cambs] His children alive in 1752 Andrew, Samuel, Mary & Jane the wife of Jos BARNES.m 1744 Pattiswick, Ess I am trying to find a family member Thomas FULLER m Mary Davis 1793 St Marylebone, Mdx, died 1820 a widr in Kensington, mother-in-law Elizabeth DAVIES of Bishops Stortford, [c1732 -bur 7 Mar 1820] and left his property to the descendants of the Saffron Walden FULLER's but cannot find where he fits! Thanks Jo in Leics [email protected] [email protected]

Hi Just to add a light note to this , I wanted my 4x gr grandparents wedding cert from 1843, I knew the date of the wedding , the church and the couples name , but I needed the name of the grooms father so that's why I wanted the cert to find out so I went to Dudley Registrar Office I filled in the forms stated I was there what ever gr granddaughter and paid my money over , Then I asked if they could tell me the name of the grooms father , quote *we cant give you that info its data protected you have to wait for it to be sent to you by post *, I did say that it was from nearly 160 years ago but they would not have it and it took nearly a fortnight to arrive from just three miles away and several phone calls and they claimed they had posted it the same day But I have found that in most cases most of the registrars will tell you the info after you have paid Cheers Cassy Assistant Admin Black Country Potteries, and Wolverhampton Lists ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shipman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters > Hi > Interesting subject! From afar I have vastly differing experiences! > ENGLAND > I am NOT allowed details of a patient at an asylum who died in 1910 > although I have the Death Cert and know the cause of death! I applied in > May 2008 because I knew it was 100 years since the Admisson! Privacy Law > was cited. > I AM allowed information on house ownership, burial details etc for > someone who died in 1981. I have Patient Records and Death Certs for > the 1940s. > AUSTRALIA > Burials and Cemetery info is easily obtainable. Wills are available up > to the 1990s (my latest). I have had no problem getting certs. The info > is available on CD up to about 1920. > > I think it very much depends on the organisation from whom you are > seeking information! The NZ Genealogical Society has published a CD > where I am listed as deceased because my name appears on the gravestones > of my father and brother! > THAT has to be a lesson for all of us! > > However I do think it is bad manners to publish details of living > persons on Web sites but so many Colonials do it in the hope of finding > the family "back home"! Many sites have a Personal Message capability > which I prefer to use. > Cheers > Marlene > New Zealand > > Celia Renshaw wrote: >> In the UK, it is still [for the time being] possible to get BMD >> certificates >> for anyone, at least up to & incl. 2005, maybe right up to the present, >> I'm >> not an expert. Even just using the GRO indexes in the 20th/21st >> centuries >> can yield good results. After mid-1912ish, the birth indexes include >> mother's maiden name which is usually a big help. And the death indexes >> from some date before 1984 [when things went computerised], include the >> deceased's date of birth too [though its accuracy depends on how well the >> informant knew the deceased!]. I understand there's an official project >> underway to include mother's maiden name and possibly other additional >> info >> in the online GRO indexes pre-1912, but that is running very much later >> than >> planned and not yet available - I'm sure there are people here know more >> about that than me. >> >> I know our system differs from other countries, Australia as an example, >> where there's a 100 year 'gag rule' on BMD certs unless you can prove >> it's >> for yourself or immediate family -am I right? I had an Ozzie rellie a >> few >> years ago threw a big wobbly and stopped speaking to me when I passed on >> some 'living people' details to other trusted, close-researchers because >> she >> thought they would publish them on a website which she said, in >> Australia, >> was illegal? But I'm not sure how that works when the web is global - in >> the UK I'm pretty sure it's not illegal, just bad form in some people's >> opinion... at least that's true so far... people keep hinting things like >> this could change. >> >> Despite having supposedly open access to our certs and the info they >> hold, >> it is still more difficult to trace living people than the dead ones in >> the >> UK, but trackers like those featured in the programme will, I imagine, >> have >> subs to services like 992.com [or is it 922?] which hold various >> databases >> such as electoral registers, phone directories etc - on that website, you >> can do initial searches for free, but there's a [modest] sub payable to >> view >> details. I've no doubt there are companies producing much more of this >> kind >> of info for a fairly hefty charge, one reason why the heir-hunters take a >> percentage cut. Though whether the recent changes to Data Protection and >> Freedom of Info have affected things I dunno. >> >> As I write this, I realise how fuzzy I am about the details on all this. >> No >> doubt others can advise me! >> >> Cheers, >> Celia Renshaw >> in Chesterfield UK >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: 18 July 2008 10:20 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters >> >> I also have been watching 'Heir Hunters' and wonder, 'how do they trace >> the >> children/grandchildren born after 1901? 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In the UK, it is still [for the time being] possible to get BMD certificates for anyone, at least up to & incl. 2005, maybe right up to the present, I'm not an expert. Even just using the GRO indexes in the 20th/21st centuries can yield good results. After mid-1912ish, the birth indexes include mother's maiden name which is usually a big help. And the death indexes from some date before 1984 [when things went computerised], include the deceased's date of birth too [though its accuracy depends on how well the informant knew the deceased!]. I understand there's an official project underway to include mother's maiden name and possibly other additional info in the online GRO indexes pre-1912, but that is running very much later than planned and not yet available - I'm sure there are people here know more about that than me. I know our system differs from other countries, Australia as an example, where there's a 100 year 'gag rule' on BMD certs unless you can prove it's for yourself or immediate family -am I right? I had an Ozzie rellie a few years ago threw a big wobbly and stopped speaking to me when I passed on some 'living people' details to other trusted, close-researchers because she thought they would publish them on a website which she said, in Australia, was illegal? But I'm not sure how that works when the web is global - in the UK I'm pretty sure it's not illegal, just bad form in some people's opinion... at least that's true so far... people keep hinting things like this could change. Despite having supposedly open access to our certs and the info they hold, it is still more difficult to trace living people than the dead ones in the UK, but trackers like those featured in the programme will, I imagine, have subs to services like 992.com [or is it 922?] which hold various databases such as electoral registers, phone directories etc - on that website, you can do initial searches for free, but there's a [modest] sub payable to view details. I've no doubt there are companies producing much more of this kind of info for a fairly hefty charge, one reason why the heir-hunters take a percentage cut. Though whether the recent changes to Data Protection and Freedom of Info have affected things I dunno. As I write this, I realise how fuzzy I am about the details on all this. No doubt others can advise me! Cheers, Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 18 July 2008 10:20 To: [email protected] Subject: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters I also have been watching 'Heir Hunters' and wonder, 'how do they trace the children/grandchildren born after 1901? How do they find their names and where they live? Sheila ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Guys and Gals Talking of heirs - can anyone suggest what to do if one finds a will in which one is a beneficiary but no money was ever received (other beneficiaries didn't get theirs either). The executor has now died. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Pottrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters > Hi Sandra, > > According to the FAQ: > http://www.bonavacantia.gov.uk/default.asp?pageid=1307 the standard length > is 12 years, but you're right about the 30 year part. > > Shame :) > > Tony > > Sandra J Smith wrote: >> Yes there is a time limit. Normally 20 years, but can be extended at the >> discretion of the treasury to 30 years. >> Sandra >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters >> >> >> >>> Hi Tony, >>> >>> No I don't think there is a time limit. Apparently, according to >>> another >>> lister the list is posted every Thursday on the Bona Vacantia site. >>> I've >>> actually had an email today from an internet contact who has received a >>> letter >>> from the company featured in the programme informing her that she is a >>> beneficiary of the estate. She thinks she is the sole blood relative >>> but didn't know >>> about the programme or the company and asked for my advice. I've only >>> seen >>> the programmes this past week so I could help her with quite a lot of >>> what she >>> wanted to know. The rest is on the web if you google Fraser and Fraser >>> or >>> Heirhunters BBC1 or claiming unclaimed money etc. >>> >>> Happy hunting! >>> >>> Diana >>> >>> >>> Re: Hadn't heard of it, but thankfully it is on the BBC iPlayer >>> (www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer) >>> >>> Interesting about the ability to claim from the treasury, presumably >>> there's a time limit involved? I'm sure I could quite easily find a >>> few >>> estates in my tree that went intestate! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> No viruses found in this incoming message >>> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 >>> http://www.iolo.com >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> No viruses found in this outgoing message >> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 >> http://www.iolo.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >

I ran across the same issue while trying to obtain British home child records about my grandmother, who was sent to Canada from Liverpool in 1907. I had to fill out an application and have her next of kin  (my mom or aunt) give signed permission for me to obtain the records. Then it took 3 months to finally get the copies.   Jan Ontario --- On Fri, 7/18/08, hey wyre <[email protected]> wrote: From: hey wyre <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HRT] HRT Heir Hunters To: [email protected] Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 9:48 AM In Canada, if you want particular information that is not yours you have to show proof that you are related AND proof that the person you are requesting information about has been dead for at least 20 years. Otherwise, you must obtain their signature and approval to do so With regard to my father's military records, they insist the oldest child of the family request them. However, the oldest child in our family is NOT my father's child so he has absolutely no interest in obtaining them. The second method is to get the signtures of ALL the siblings saying it is ok for you to obtain them. With there being 7 siblings in my family, spread all over the country, obtaining permission from each and every one would be fruitless - I am still waiting for my brother (who handled my father's burial after he died) to send me a copy of his death certificate (my father died in 1986 - so you can see my dilemma) This is no easy "hobby" sometimes, that's for sure Judy BC Canada _________________________________________________________________ If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which combines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mark On FreeBMD Sep Q, 1904 I see marriage of William Connelley and Marian Jenny Cook at Southwark,1d,323 Suggest when searching FeeeBMD you use asterisk to get around those names with many spelling variants For this I searched for William CON* and COOK in 3 year batches back from 1912 ( I am not sure if it works on Ancestry) Cheers John ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark lemmer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:55 AM Subject: [HRT] Connolly - New to list > Hi everyone > I'm at the very start of tracing a side of my wife's side of the family. > To start with I need to obtain the birth cert of Clara Elizabeth Connolly. > IO know that she was born between 1911 and 1913 lived in the Letchworth > area as a child and later married and lived in Blackpool. On her marriage > cert it shows her father was a William John Connolly (a rubber worker). > someone in the family believes that there is a connection with a place > called The Round House in Letchworth But thats all i've got. I've looked > up the free bmd side to no avail. > Has anyone any suggestions. > Mark > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available > now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In Canada, if you want particular information that is not yours you have to show proof that you are related AND proof that the person you are requesting information about has been dead for at least 20 years. Otherwise, you must obtain their signature and approval to do so With regard to my father's military records, they insist the oldest child of the family request them. However, the oldest child in our family is NOT my father's child so he has absolutely no interest in obtaining them. The second method is to get the signtures of ALL the siblings saying it is ok for you to obtain them. With there being 7 siblings in my family, spread all over the country, obtaining permission from each and every one would be fruitless - I am still waiting for my brother (who handled my father's burial after he died) to send me a copy of his death certificate (my father died in 1986 - so you can see my dilemma) This is no easy "hobby" sometimes, that's for sure Judy BC Canada _________________________________________________________________ If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which combines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208

Thanks for that Tony. I must have had a "senior moment" on the keyboard!!! Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Pottrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters > Hi Sandra, > > According to the FAQ: > http://www.bonavacantia.gov.uk/default.asp?pageid=1307 the standard > length is 12 years, but you're right about the 30 year part. > > Shame :) > > Tony > > Sandra J Smith wrote: >> Yes there is a time limit. Normally 20 years, but can be extended at the >> discretion of the treasury to 30 years. >> Sandra >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters >> >> >> >>> Hi Tony, >>> >>> No I don't think there is a time limit. Apparently, according to >>> another >>> lister the list is posted every Thursday on the Bona Vacantia site. >>> I've >>> actually had an email today from an internet contact who has received a >>> letter >>> from the company featured in the programme informing her that she is a >>> beneficiary of the estate. She thinks she is the sole blood relative >>> but >>> didn't know >>> about the programme or the company and asked for my advice. I've only >>> seen >>> the programmes this past week so I could help her with quite a lot of >>> what she >>> wanted to know. The rest is on the web if you google Fraser and Fraser >>> or >>> Heirhunters BBC1 or claiming unclaimed money etc. >>> >>> Happy hunting! >>> >>> Diana >>> >>> >>> Re: Hadn't heard of it, but thankfully it is on the BBC iPlayer >>> (www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer) >>> >>> Interesting about the ability to claim from the treasury, presumably >>> there's a time limit involved? I'm sure I could quite easily find a >>> few >>> estates in my tree that went intestate! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> No viruses found in this incoming message >>> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 >>> http://www.iolo.com >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> No viruses found in this outgoing message >> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 >> http://www.iolo.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 http://www.iolo.com

I also have been watching 'Heir Hunters' and wonder, 'how do they trace the children/grandchildren born after 1901? How do they find their names and where they live? Sheila

I would say consult a solicitor? I can't see why no one got paid out as the money would have gone to probate. Unless a new will had been made up and the one found was null and void? Regards Diana Hi Guys and Gals Talking of heirs - can anyone suggest what to do if one finds a will in which one is a beneficiary but no money was ever received (other beneficiaries didn't get theirs either). The executor has now died. Sheila

Hi Sandra, According to the FAQ: http://www.bonavacantia.gov.uk/default.asp?pageid=1307 the standard length is 12 years, but you're right about the 30 year part. Shame :) Tony Sandra J Smith wrote: > Yes there is a time limit. Normally 20 years, but can be extended at the > discretion of the treasury to 30 years. > Sandra > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters > > > >> Hi Tony, >> >> No I don't think there is a time limit. Apparently, according to another >> lister the list is posted every Thursday on the Bona Vacantia site. I've >> actually had an email today from an internet contact who has received a >> letter >> from the company featured in the programme informing her that she is a >> beneficiary of the estate. She thinks she is the sole blood relative but >> didn't know >> about the programme or the company and asked for my advice. I've only >> seen >> the programmes this past week so I could help her with quite a lot of >> what she >> wanted to know. The rest is on the web if you google Fraser and Fraser >> or >> Heirhunters BBC1 or claiming unclaimed money etc. >> >> Happy hunting! >> >> Diana >> >> >> Re: Hadn't heard of it, but thankfully it is on the BBC iPlayer >> (www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer) >> >> Interesting about the ability to claim from the treasury, presumably >> there's a time limit involved? I'm sure I could quite easily find a few >> estates in my tree that went intestate! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _______________________________________ >> No viruses found in this incoming message >> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 >> http://www.iolo.com >> >> > > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this outgoing message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 > http://www.iolo.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Yes there is a time limit. Normally 20 years, but can be extended at the discretion of the treasury to 30 years. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters > Hi Tony, > > No I don't think there is a time limit. Apparently, according to another > lister the list is posted every Thursday on the Bona Vacantia site. I've > actually had an email today from an internet contact who has received a > letter > from the company featured in the programme informing her that she is a > beneficiary of the estate. She thinks she is the sole blood relative but > didn't know > about the programme or the company and asked for my advice. I've only > seen > the programmes this past week so I could help her with quite a lot of > what she > wanted to know. The rest is on the web if you google Fraser and Fraser > or > Heirhunters BBC1 or claiming unclaimed money etc. > > Happy hunting! > > Diana > > > Re: Hadn't heard of it, but thankfully it is on the BBC iPlayer > (www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer) > > Interesting about the ability to claim from the treasury, presumably > there's a time limit involved? I'm sure I could quite easily find a few > estates in my tree that went intestate! > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 http://www.iolo.com

At the moment anyone can purchase any certificate, but I believe it is due to change. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters > Hi Sandra, > > Yes that's what I meant to say - got my words a bit wrong I think. Yes, > it > is great to see the genealogists at work but how do they get a > certificate > from a registry office of someone who was born within the last 100 years? > One > registry office provided a copy within 10 minutes. Does that mean I can > go > and get anyone's particulars? I didn't think you could do that - fraud > etc?? > > Diana > > Re: Hi Diana, > Just to correct you on one point... > If one dies intestate, your money doesn't always go to the UK goverment. > The cases that are featured are ones where the deceased has died > intestate > AND there are no known heirs. The majority of the estates go to known > heirs - ie spouses and children - although there are strict rules on how > the > money is divided. > I've watched both series and think that all new genealogists should watch > it > to see how to construct a family tree, together with the necessary proof. > Sandra > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 http://www.iolo.com

Hi Mark On FreeBMD/Ancestry, there's this birth reg: Name: Clara E Connolly Year of Registration: 1912 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's Maiden Name: Cook District: West Ham County: Essex, Greater London Volume: 4a Page: 501 Can't see a CONNOLLY-COOK marriage as yet, so maybe they married before arriving in England? Good hunting. Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mark lemmer Sent: 17 July 2008 20:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [HRT] Connolly - New to list Hi everyone I'm at the very start of tracing a side of my wife's side of the family. To start with I need to obtain the birth cert of Clara Elizabeth Connolly. IO know that she was born between 1911 and 1913 lived in the Letchworth area as a child and later married and lived in Blackpool. On her marriage cert it shows her father was a William John Connolly (a rubber worker). someone in the family believes that there is a connection with a place called The Round House in Letchworth But thats all i've got. I've looked up the free bmd side to no avail. Has anyone any suggestions. Mark

Hijacking the thread a little now, sorry! Frustratingly, the estate was spawled over the Essex, Herts and Cambs borders, but I've just managed to get a job in Bishop's Stortford (currently in Bristol), so researching the family tree is going to be a lot easier now. I'll see if I can find out anything from the land registry, thanks Diana/Diana :) Tony Diane wrote: > I can't imagine that the estate wouldn't have been correctly administered.... but if you are drawing a blank on their wills, how about looking through land registry for who acquired the farm(s)? > Or the current owners may know the history and know who purchases/inherited it. > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:52:05 +0100> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters> > Thanks Diane.> > Well the estate I had in mind would have gone intestate back in 1912. > I've not yet been able to find a copy of the Wills involved (Two > brothers owned a large farm, both died within a month of each other).> > I know where the two brothers are buried, but I'm not sure where to go > from there!> > T> > Diane wrote:> > Tony - its 12 years from date of death.... but the treasury have discretion to allow late claims.... the links Diana gave make interesting reading.... > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:31:25 +0100> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected]> Subject: Re: [HRT] Heir Hunters> > Hadn't heard of it, but thankfully it is on the BBC iPlayer > (www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer)> > Interesting about the abilit! y ! > to claim from the treasury, presumably > there's a time limit involved? I'm sure I could quite easily find a few > estates in my tree that went intestate!> > Tony> > [email protected] wrote:> > Hi to all the above Rootsweb mailing listers who live in England,> > > > Have you been watching the programme 'Heirhunters' which is being shown > > presently at 9.15 every morning on BBC1? I've only just discovered it this week > > and I love it! It shows a team of genealogists searching for relatives of > > someone who has died without making a will and h!> av!> > ing no known family. They > > look up the censuses to make up family trees, and births,deaths and marriages > > to determine who make up the family and if they are still living could be > > entitled to a share of any estate. Apparently if a person dies intestate then > > the money goes to the Treasury. The company acquires a list (I wonder from > > where? Anyone know?) of people who have died intestate and they race a! ga! > inst > > the clock to find possible heirs before rival companies find > them. No doubt > > the company gets a large commission from any inheritance that is proved by > > them and finally paid out to the heirs!> > > > There are some sad cases on there e.g. a person who for some reason left > > home at 17 never to be heard of again by the family who dies years later alone > > with no family around him and no one to leave his money to. The family only > > get to hear of his death via the company Fraser and Fraser who then inform > > them that they are entitled t!> o !> > the inheritance - less commission of course! How > > much the company > > gets I don't know but some possible heirs choose to not > > sign a contract and make their own application to the state for the money. > > Also, a couple who was cared for in their later years by a nephew who thought he > > would be left some of their money. In fact they said they wanted him to have > > their money as a thank you for his help and care. But unfortunately now > > will was made, they became in! fi! > rm, the aunt died leaving her husband (who wasn't > > a blood relative to the nephew) who died a while afterwards from > > Alzheimer's. Fraser and Fraser find an heir who is so remotely connected (but by blood) > > to the deceased that they never even knew the person existed, but was > > thrilled to learn that they inherited everything. The poor nephew who did all the > > work though received nothing.> > > > > > This is the website for the programme and the company that is featured in > > the programme - _http://www.fraserandfraser.com/heirhunters/default.htm_ > > (htt!> p:!> > //www.fraserandfraser.com/heirhunters/default.htm) Loads of interesting > > information on there that we should all be aware of! > > > > Regards> > > > Diana> >> >> >> > > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >! >! > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, plea > se send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > _________________________________________________________________> > Find the best and worst places on the planet> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719807/direct/01/> > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Play and win great prizes with Live Search and Kung Fu Panda > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719966/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >