Good Morning Anthony, I will follow your advice - Thank you so much for taking the time to find the resource and taking the time to help me. Thank You So Very Much. Have a Very Merry Christmas - The Happiest New Year. Stella At 10:42 PM 19/12/2009, you wrote: >Good Morning Stella > >If in doubt go to the www.gro.gov.uk site and >Register/Log in. You choose Death certificates >(overseas); I just checked that this includes marine deaths. >The Genealogist requires a subscription or >possibly you can buy credits but I think you can >trust me on this one. The GRO index merely shows >name, age, vessel and the page number. It is a >really nice web site for the UK but does not have as much stuff as Ancestry. >Have a good Christmas >Anthony > >________________________________ > >Fra: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com på vegne af Stella Stanger >Sendt: lø 19-12-2009 22:07 >Til: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [HRT] ENFIELD LODGE,Southgate, Hertfordshire OLIVER surname > > > >Good Morning Anthony, > >Thank you so very much. I cannot tell you how >very much I appreciate this information. > >How do I access the information from The Genealogist ? > >For all the years - I have been part of this >family - The child was always referred to as Sonny.by my in laws - > >He was entered into a Better Baby Contest - under >that name. So - we assumed that this was his birth name. > >I could only guess at the aprox birth date of the >child. Our Vital Statistics Registry - would not >allow me to purchase the registration of birth - without proof of the death. >*brother in law had destroyed all family papers - >after my mother in law passed away - leaving >research - at a later time - very difficult. > >Earlier this year I found my mother in law on a >passenger list to England - and included the boys >name - and the notation that he had passed away aboard ship. > >Thank you again for your help - It has been a gift - >Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas - the Very Best New Year >Cheers, Stella > > > >At 11:17 PM 18/12/2009, you wrote: > >Stella > >The death was registered. It is found under > >"Marine Deaths for the year 1919" on page 87. > >The Index is available on The Genealogist. I am > >not sure how you go about ordering the > >certificate from ONS but it might be quite > >straightforward. Whether or not this will lead > >you to his grave is another matter. > >Southgate was a London Borough (and is now part > >of Enfield). It was literally the south gate of Enfield Chase. > >Anthony > > > >________________________________ > > > >Fra: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com på vegne af Stella Stanger > >Sendt: lø 19-12-2009 00:05 > >Til: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com > >Emne: [HRT] ENFIELD LODGE,Southgate, Hertfordshire OLIVER surname > > > > > > > >Searching for information about Enfield Lodge, Southgate, Hertfordshire. > > > >Clara STANGER [nee Oliver] born Meppershall 1881 to Arthur John > >OLIVER and Mary Ann OLIVER [nee ROGERS]. > > > >Sailed to England March 1919 - date of arrival March 8 1919 > > > >Destination according to Passenger List ship Metagma > >Enfield Lodge, Soughtgate Hertfordshire. > > > >Son Henry Arthur STANGER - age 3 deceased aboard ship. > >Registration of Death not found. > >Family story is that the child is buried in the grave of an uncle. > >James OLIVER - place of death, date of death not known. > > > >Hope to perhaps find some connection - at Enfield Lodge and surroundings. > >Any suggestions - gratefully accepted. > > > >Cheers, Stella > > > > > > > > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > > > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > >email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > > > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > >email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

On 20 Dec 2009 at 9:28, Lynne Charles wrote: > Can anyone tell me if there is a register of recipient of the MBE. > Albert Davis was one of my grandmothers brothers, and I am trying to > find out why and when he was given this award sometime in the > 1920-1930.> It was probably in the London Gazette, the official government newspaper of record that covers notices of bankruptcies, public appointments, awards and medals, etc. Try a search at: http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Good morning and seasons greetings to all. Can anyone tell me if there is a register of recipient of the MBE. Albert Davis was one of my grandmothers brothers, and I am trying to find out why and when he was given this award sometime in the 1920-1930. Regards Lynne _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

Good Morning Stella If in doubt go to the www.gro.gov.uk site and Register/Log in. You choose Death certificates (overseas); I just checked that this includes marine deaths. The Genealogist requires a subscription or possibly you can buy credits but I think you can trust me on this one. The GRO index merely shows name, age, vessel and the page number. It is a really nice web site for the UK but does not have as much stuff as Ancestry. Have a good Christmas Anthony ________________________________ Fra: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com på vegne af Stella Stanger Sendt: lø 19-12-2009 22:07 Til: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [HRT] ENFIELD LODGE,Southgate, Hertfordshire OLIVER surname Good Morning Anthony, Thank you so very much. I cannot tell you how very much I appreciate this information. How do I access the information from The Genealogist ? For all the years - I have been part of this family - The child was always referred to as Sonny.by my in laws - He was entered into a Better Baby Contest - under that name. So - we assumed that this was his birth name. I could only guess at the aprox birth date of the child. Our Vital Statistics Registry - would not allow me to purchase the registration of birth - without proof of the death. *brother in law had destroyed all family papers - after my mother in law passed away - leaving research - at a later time - very difficult. Earlier this year I found my mother in law on a passenger list to England - and included the boys name - and the notation that he had passed away aboard ship. Thank you again for your help - It has been a gift - Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas - the Very Best New Year Cheers, Stella At 11:17 PM 18/12/2009, you wrote: >Stella >The death was registered. It is found under >"Marine Deaths for the year 1919" on page 87. >The Index is available on The Genealogist. I am >not sure how you go about ordering the >certificate from ONS but it might be quite >straightforward. Whether or not this will lead >you to his grave is another matter. >Southgate was a London Borough (and is now part >of Enfield). It was literally the south gate of Enfield Chase. >Anthony > >________________________________ > >Fra: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com på vegne af Stella Stanger >Sendt: lø 19-12-2009 00:05 >Til: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com >Emne: [HRT] ENFIELD LODGE,Southgate, Hertfordshire OLIVER surname > > > >Searching for information about Enfield Lodge, Southgate, Hertfordshire. > >Clara STANGER [nee Oliver] born Meppershall 1881 to Arthur John >OLIVER and Mary Ann OLIVER [nee ROGERS]. > >Sailed to England March 1919 - date of arrival March 8 1919 > >Destination according to Passenger List ship Metagma >Enfield Lodge, Soughtgate Hertfordshire. > >Son Henry Arthur STANGER - age 3 deceased aboard ship. >Registration of Death not found. >Family story is that the child is buried in the grave of an uncle. >James OLIVER - place of death, date of death not known. > >Hope to perhaps find some connection - at Enfield Lodge and surroundings. >Any suggestions - gratefully accepted. > >Cheers, Stella > > > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning Anthony, Thank you so very much. I cannot tell you how very much I appreciate this information. How do I access the information from The Genealogist ? For all the years - I have been part of this family - The child was always referred to as Sonny.by my in laws - He was entered into a Better Baby Contest - under that name. So - we assumed that this was his birth name. I could only guess at the aprox birth date of the child. Our Vital Statistics Registry - would not allow me to purchase the registration of birth - without proof of the death. *brother in law had destroyed all family papers - after my mother in law passed away - leaving research - at a later time - very difficult. Earlier this year I found my mother in law on a passenger list to England - and included the boys name - and the notation that he had passed away aboard ship. Thank you again for your help - It has been a gift - Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas - the Very Best New Year Cheers, Stella At 11:17 PM 18/12/2009, you wrote: >Stella >The death was registered. It is found under >"Marine Deaths for the year 1919" on page 87. >The Index is available on The Genealogist. I am >not sure how you go about ordering the >certificate from ONS but it might be quite >straightforward. Whether or not this will lead >you to his grave is another matter. >Southgate was a London Borough (and is now part >of Enfield). It was literally the south gate of Enfield Chase. >Anthony > >________________________________ > >Fra: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com på vegne af Stella Stanger >Sendt: lø 19-12-2009 00:05 >Til: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com >Emne: [HRT] ENFIELD LODGE,Southgate, Hertfordshire OLIVER surname > > > >Searching for information about Enfield Lodge, Southgate, Hertfordshire. > >Clara STANGER [nee Oliver] born Meppershall 1881 to Arthur John >OLIVER and Mary Ann OLIVER [nee ROGERS]. > >Sailed to England March 1919 - date of arrival March 8 1919 > >Destination according to Passenger List ship Metagma >Enfield Lodge, Soughtgate Hertfordshire. > >Son Henry Arthur STANGER - age 3 deceased aboard ship. >Registration of Death not found. >Family story is that the child is buried in the grave of an uncle. >James OLIVER - place of death, date of death not known. > >Hope to perhaps find some connection - at Enfield Lodge and surroundings. >Any suggestions - gratefully accepted. > >Cheers, Stella > > > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >Hertfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Stella The death was registered. It is found under "Marine Deaths for the year 1919" on page 87. The Index is available on The Genealogist. I am not sure how you go about ordering the certificate from ONS but it might be quite straightforward. Whether or not this will lead you to his grave is another matter. Southgate was a London Borough (and is now part of Enfield). It was literally the south gate of Enfield Chase. Anthony ________________________________ Fra: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com på vegne af Stella Stanger Sendt: lø 19-12-2009 00:05 Til: ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Emne: [HRT] ENFIELD LODGE,Southgate, Hertfordshire OLIVER surname Searching for information about Enfield Lodge, Southgate, Hertfordshire. Clara STANGER [nee Oliver] born Meppershall 1881 to Arthur John OLIVER and Mary Ann OLIVER [nee ROGERS]. Sailed to England March 1919 - date of arrival March 8 1919 Destination according to Passenger List ship Metagma Enfield Lodge, Soughtgate Hertfordshire. Son Henry Arthur STANGER - age 3 deceased aboard ship. Registration of Death not found. Family story is that the child is buried in the grave of an uncle. James OLIVER - place of death, date of death not known. Hope to perhaps find some connection - at Enfield Lodge and surroundings. Any suggestions - gratefully accepted. Cheers, Stella Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for information about Enfield Lodge, Southgate, Hertfordshire. Clara STANGER [nee Oliver] born Meppershall 1881 to Arthur John OLIVER and Mary Ann OLIVER [nee ROGERS]. Sailed to England March 1919 - date of arrival March 8 1919 Destination according to Passenger List ship Metagma Enfield Lodge, Soughtgate Hertfordshire. Son Henry Arthur STANGER - age 3 deceased aboard ship. Registration of Death not found. Family story is that the child is buried in the grave of an uncle. James OLIVER - place of death, date of death not known. Hope to perhaps find some connection - at Enfield Lodge and surroundings. Any suggestions - gratefully accepted. Cheers, Stella

Mary, I am descended from William Breed (baptd 1789), Sarah's brother. Sarah (Froy) may have been buried at St John's Road, Hitchin. This cemetery largely replaced St Mary's, Hitchin from about 1857. To confirm this I suggest you contact Carol Casey, Burials Officer for N Herts Council (a most helpful lady). Tel 01462 474000 or write: Carol Casey, Burials Officer, Council Offices, Gernon Road, Letchworth, Herts. SG6 3JF. Philip Wray > From: naig1313@atlantic.net > To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:02:58 -0500 > Subject: Re: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > > Thanks I'll follow up on this. Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> > To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:53 AM > Subject: Re: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > > > > There is a Public Member Tree (French21) on Ancestry that deals with the > > family and had already identified that Sarah was possibly the daughter of > > John Breed (1763-1852) and Susannah Hawkes (1763-1830). John in turn is > > son of Thomas Breed b, 1724 and Mary Davis b. 1728. Both John and Thomas > > are shown as born Standon, Beds. As you may know Offley is close to the > > Herts/Beds county line. The tree referred to has lots more on the Froy > > family. Of course there is the usual rider that trees can be inaccurate > > and you would need to examine the original sources. Anthony > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of naig1313 > > Sent: Sat 12-12-2009 22:30 > > To: eng-hertfordshire-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > > > > > > > > Sarah Breed born abt 1796 in Offley Hertfordshire married William Froy 16 > > May 1818. He was born in Hitchin. His parents were William Froy and Maria > > Taylor. > > I would like to know when Sarah died and where she is buried. > > > > Does anyone know who was her parents? > > > > Thanks, Mary in the US > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2560 - Release Date: > > 12/12/09 02:38:00 > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2561 - Release Date: 12/12/09 > 14:39:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: 12/13/09 02:39:00 > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/

Hello Philip: I will give this lady a call later this week. That is very helpful information. Do you have any other information on the Breed family as I tend to spread out into the families not just sticking with my line? I find it interesting to see what the rest of the families are doing. Again, thanks for the help. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Wray" <prestonherts@hotmail.co.uk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > > Mary, > > > > I am descended from William Breed (baptd 1789), Sarah's brother. > > > > Sarah (Froy) may have been buried at St John's Road, Hitchin. This > cemetery largely replaced St Mary's, Hitchin from about 1857. To confirm > this I suggest you contact Carol Casey, Burials Officer for N Herts > Council (a most helpful lady). Tel 01462 474000 or write: Carol Casey, > Burials Officer, Council Offices, Gernon Road, Letchworth, Herts. SG6 3JF. > > > > Philip Wray > >> From: naig1313@atlantic.net >> To: eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:02:58 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 >> >> Thanks I'll follow up on this. Mary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> >> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 >> >> >> > There is a Public Member Tree (French21) on Ancestry that deals with >> > the >> > family and had already identified that Sarah was possibly the daughter >> > of >> > John Breed (1763-1852) and Susannah Hawkes (1763-1830). John in turn is >> > son of Thomas Breed b, 1724 and Mary Davis b. 1728. Both John and >> > Thomas >> > are shown as born Standon, Beds. As you may know Offley is close to the >> > Herts/Beds county line. The tree referred to has lots more on the Froy >> > family. Of course there is the usual rider that trees can be inaccurate >> > and you would need to examine the original sources. Anthony >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of naig1313 >> > Sent: Sat 12-12-2009 22:30 >> > To: eng-hertfordshire-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 >> > >> > >> > >> > Sarah Breed born abt 1796 in Offley Hertfordshire married William Froy >> > 16 >> > May 1818. He was born in Hitchin. His parents were William Froy and >> > Maria >> > Taylor. >> > I would like to know when Sarah died and where she is buried. >> > >> > Does anyone know who was her parents? >> > >> > Thanks, Mary in the US >> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2560 - Release Date: >> > 12/12/09 02:38:00 >> > >> > >> > Hertfordshire Surnames List >> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hertfordshire Surnames List >> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2561 - Release Date: >> 12/12/09 >> 14:39:00 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: >> 12/13/09 02:39:00 >> >> >> Hertfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access > both > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2566 - Release Date: 12/15/09 02:52:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.109/2567 - Release Date: 12/15/09 14:58:00

Thanks I'll follow up on this. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter@health.sdu.dk> To: <eng-hertfordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:53 AM Subject: Re: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > There is a Public Member Tree (French21) on Ancestry that deals with the > family and had already identified that Sarah was possibly the daughter of > John Breed (1763-1852) and Susannah Hawkes (1763-1830). John in turn is > son of Thomas Breed b, 1724 and Mary Davis b. 1728. Both John and Thomas > are shown as born Standon, Beds. As you may know Offley is close to the > Herts/Beds county line. The tree referred to has lots more on the Froy > family. Of course there is the usual rider that trees can be inaccurate > and you would need to examine the original sources. Anthony > > ________________________________ > > From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of naig1313 > Sent: Sat 12-12-2009 22:30 > To: eng-hertfordshire-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > > > > Sarah Breed born abt 1796 in Offley Hertfordshire married William Froy 16 > May 1818. He was born in Hitchin. His parents were William Froy and Maria > Taylor. > I would like to know when Sarah died and where she is buried. > > Does anyone know who was her parents? > > Thanks, Mary in the US > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2560 - Release Date: > 12/12/09 02:38:00 > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2561 - Release Date: 12/12/09 14:39:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2562 - Release Date: 12/13/09 02:39:00

Hi Mary, UK census finds Sarah a widow in 1861 and not present 1871. She lived 1841 to 1861 at Hitchin, Herts. FreeBMD only shows one Sarah Froy death in 1861 and that was Dec Qtr 1863 at Hitchin,3a,173. So that's her death sorted. Some local may be able to search registers for her parentage and burial. May be worth getting death cert, so you have exact death date and place --but that's all you would get on the cert. Cheers, John in Aus. ----- Original Message ----- From: "naig1313" <naig1313@atlantic.net> To: <eng-hertfordshire-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > Sarah Breed born abt 1796 in Offley Hertfordshire married William Froy 16 > May 1818. He was born in Hitchin. His parents were William Froy and Maria > Taylor. > I would like to know when Sarah died and where she is buried. > > Does anyone know who was her parents? > > Thanks, Mary in the US > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2560 - Release Date: > 12/12/09 02:38:00 > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2559 - Release Date: 12/11/09 19:37:00

There is a Public Member Tree (French21) on Ancestry that deals with the family and had already identified that Sarah was possibly the daughter of John Breed (1763-1852) and Susannah Hawkes (1763-1830). John in turn is son of Thomas Breed b, 1724 and Mary Davis b. 1728. Both John and Thomas are shown as born Standon, Beds. As you may know Offley is close to the Herts/Beds county line. The tree referred to has lots more on the Froy family. Of course there is the usual rider that trees can be inaccurate and you would need to examine the original sources. Anthony ________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of naig1313 Sent: Sat 12-12-2009 22:30 To: eng-hertfordshire-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 Sarah Breed born abt 1796 in Offley Hertfordshire married William Froy 16 May 1818. He was born in Hitchin. His parents were William Froy and Maria Taylor. I would like to know when Sarah died and where she is buried. Does anyone know who was her parents? Thanks, Mary in the US No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2560 - Release Date: 12/12/09 02:38:00 Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Mary, Although census returns support a birth 1796, the IGI shows a Sarah Breed baptised at Offley 4 May 1794 daughter of John Breed and Susannah. This was the only couple bringing children to the church at this period and if you go to familysearch.com, which is free, you should be able to identify siblings. A discrepancy of 2 years at this date is not a big thing: Sarah could have been unsure of her age or purposely rounded it down; IGI could have a transcription error. Another possibility is that 1794 Sarah died and a new baby born 1796 was given the same name. This was not at all unusual but why then is there no record of a second baptism on IGI? Anthony ________________________________ From: eng-hertfordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of naig1313 Sent: Sat 12-12-2009 22:30 To: eng-hertfordshire-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 Sarah Breed born abt 1796 in Offley Hertfordshire married William Froy 16 May 1818. He was born in Hitchin. His parents were William Froy and Maria Taylor. I would like to know when Sarah died and where she is buried. Does anyone know who was her parents? Thanks, Mary in the US No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2560 - Release Date: 12/12/09 02:38:00 Hertfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks a bunch. Cheers, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hartley" <jhartley@hotkey.net.au> To: <eng-hertfordshire-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > Hi Mary, UK census finds Sarah a widow in 1861 and not present 1871. She > lived 1841 to 1861 at Hitchin, Herts. FreeBMD only shows one Sarah Froy > death in 1861 and that was Dec Qtr 1863 at Hitchin,3a,173. So that's her > death sorted. Some local may be able to search registers for her > parentage > and burial. May be worth getting death cert, so you have exact death date > and place --but that's all you would get on the cert. > Cheers, John in Aus. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "naig1313" <naig1313@atlantic.net> > To: <eng-hertfordshire-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:30 AM > Subject: [HRT] Sarah Breed 1796 > > >> Sarah Breed born abt 1796 in Offley Hertfordshire married William Froy 16 >> May 1818. He was born in Hitchin. His parents were William Froy and Maria >> Taylor. >> I would like to know when Sarah died and where she is buried. >> >> Does anyone know who was her parents? >> >> Thanks, Mary in the US >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2560 - Release Date: >> 12/12/09 02:38:00 >> >> >> Hertfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2559 - Release Date: > 12/11/09 > 19:37:00 > > > > Hertfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/hertford.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HERTFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2561 - Release Date: 12/12/09 14:39:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.105/2561 - Release Date: 12/12/09 14:39:00

Sarah Breed born abt 1796 in Offley Hertfordshire married William Froy 16 May 1818. He was born in Hitchin. His parents were William Froy and Maria Taylor. I would like to know when Sarah died and where she is buried. Does anyone know who was her parents? Thanks, Mary in the US No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.104/2560 - Release Date: 12/12/09 02:38:00

>From London Chronicle ( Semi-Annual ) Tuesday, November 26, 1776; Issue 3117. Last week died at Rickmansworth, in Herts , Joseph DOBYNS, a Shepherd, at the age of 102 years.

Philip wrote:- > A 'hundred' appears to equate to either the area which provided the host > with 100 warriors or which measured 100 'hides'. A 'hide' has been defined > as being between 40 and 120 acres. A quick dip into Wikipedia suggests that a Hundred was the area of land which would support a hundred households or "hides". No doubt the actual area varied throughout the country. I didn't pursue it further. FWIW Mike -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 284 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Trying to understand the administrative district of the 'Hitchin Hundred'. A 'hundred' appears to equate to either the area which provided the host with 100 warriors or which measured 100 'hides'. A 'hide' has been defined as being between 40 and 120 acres. According to the Victorian County Histories, the 'Hitchin Hundred' comprised the parishes of Hitchin (including Preston, Walsworth and Langley), Pirton, Kings Walden, Ippollitts, Offley, Lilley, Ickleford and Kimpton. Helpfully, the VCH includes the acreage of most of these parishes which totals 20,447. The acreage of Hitchin township is not mentioned nor that of Kings Walden. If one estimates Hitchin Town as 1,500 acres and Kings Walden as 3,000, the total acreage of the 'Hitchin Hundred' is approximately 25,000. Unless this area provided 100 warriors, the other definition just doesn't compute (ie 25,000 divided by 100 = 250 and therefore a 'hide' in this county was around 250 acres). Probably, I'm missing or misunderstanding something. Can someone help, please? Philip Wray _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal (Oxford, England), Saturday, August 24,1816; Issue 3305. On Monday last died, at Sarratt, in Hertfordshire, aged 56 years, Mr. Richard LIPSCOMB, formerly of St. Giles's in this city.

Hi all, I'll not send out any more emails about the tool as I don't want to fill people's inboxes unnecessarily. I'll just release new versions every Sunday from now on where possible from the same download link as below: www.pottrell.com/archidex/Archidex.exe It's a self extracting archive, once downloaded double click on it and it will ask you where you want to extract it to. Once extracted, run the Archidex.exe file in the new folder. Future releases may include a Mac version if there is sufficient demand for it. The tool currently has just under 3000 entries at the moment from: Chrishall (1617-1761, in progress), Heydon (1558-1755), Great Chishall (1623 - 1655, in progress), Little Chishall (1577-1760), Wendon Lofts (1674-1812). More to come... Feedback, PR transcriptions and comments welcome :) Cheers all, Tony