Whilst I have not succeeded in tracing the marriage of my g.g.grandparents, Thomas PRICE & Mary (WILLIAMS) prior to l851, I now have a more complete family for them thanks to the l87l Census entry where I have found them living at Holms Marsh, Lyonshall. Thomas PRICE, 51, Lab., b. Radnor, Glascomb Mary PRICE (b. WILLIAMS), 47, b. Radnor, Michaelchurch William, son, l8, lab., b. Hef., Pembridge Charles, son, l4, b. Hef., Pembridge Aaron, son, l2, b. Radnor, Glascomb Samuel, son, l0, b. Radnor, Presteigne I know they also had 2 other sons George, b. l854 and Thomas, b. l858. Charles, born l856, was my great grandfather. George (b. l854) married widow Jane CLEE (b.DUGGAN) and Samuel (b. l86l) married Emily PRICE - his brother's step-daughter - and they emigrated to Canada, but I have no further information on William, Aaron or Thomas. The names are so common on the l88l Census, and birthplaces inconsistent, that it is impossible to be sure about them. Back in l85l Thomas and Mary were living with Mary's parents, Joseph & Mary WILLIAMS, at the Forge in Pembridge. From the above census it would appear they moved from Pembridge to Radnor ca. l858. The information that their youngest son, Samuel, was born in Presteigne may lead to my finally tracking them down on the l86l Census. I have always assumed that Thomas and Mary married shortly before the l85l Census...the earliest child I have for them is William, b.l853... however, it is possible that, given her age, Mary had been married before and that she was a widower when she married Thomas....perhaps that's why their marriage has been so difficult to find! They had a "nursing child", Lewis WHITE, b. Norton, Radnor, l846, living with them at Pembridge in l85l....If he were a step-son, he would have been called such, wouldn't he? I'd be grateful for any thoughts.... Diane Johansen

Hello Diane, This is them on the 1861 census Chris 1861 census index for Radnorshire Enumeration district of Presteigne RG9:4232 HEF Coombe Cottage /f34/p12 Thomas Price H M 41 ag lab RAD Glascombe Cottage /f34/p12 Mary W 38 RAD Michaelchurch & C William S 9 HEF Pembridge Charles S 4 HEF Pembridge George S 6 HEF Pembridge Aaron S 1 RAD Cascob Mary Williams M/L M 63 HEF Brilley --- lizzy johansen <lizzy.johansen@btinternet.com> wrote: > Whilst I have not succeeded in tracing the marriage > of my > g.g.grandparents, Thomas PRICE & Mary (WILLIAMS) > prior to l851, I now > have a more complete family for them thanks to the > l87l Census entry > where I have found them living at Holms Marsh, > Lyonshall. > > Thomas PRICE, 51, Lab., b. Radnor, Glascomb > Mary PRICE (b. WILLIAMS), 47, b. Radnor, > Michaelchurch > William, son, l8, lab., b. Hef., Pembridge > Charles, son, l4, b. Hef., Pembridge > Aaron, son, l2, b. Radnor, Glascomb > Samuel, son, l0, b. Radnor, Presteigne > > I know they also had 2 other sons George, b. l854 > and Thomas, b. l858. > > Charles, born l856, was my great grandfather. > George (b. l854) married > widow Jane CLEE (b.DUGGAN) and Samuel (b. l86l) > married Emily PRICE - > his brother's step-daughter - and they emigrated to > Canada, but I have > no further information on William, Aaron or Thomas. > The names are so > common on the l88l Census, and birthplaces > inconsistent, that it is > impossible to be sure about them. > > Back in l85l Thomas and Mary were living with Mary's > parents, Joseph & > Mary WILLIAMS, at the Forge in Pembridge. From the > above census it > would appear they moved from Pembridge to Radnor ca. > l858. The > information that their youngest son, Samuel, was > born in Presteigne > may lead to my finally tracking them down on the > l86l Census. > > I have always assumed that Thomas and Mary married > shortly before the > l85l Census...the earliest child I have for them is > William, b.l853... > however, it is possible that, given her age, Mary > had been married > before and that she was a widower when she married > Thomas....perhaps > that's why their marriage has been so difficult to > find! They had a > "nursing child", Lewis WHITE, b. Norton, Radnor, > l846, living with them > at Pembridge in l85l....If he were a step-son, he > would have been called > such, wouldn't he? > > I'd be grateful for any thoughts.... > > Diane Johansen > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

On 25/1/03 5:01 pm, "lizzy johansen" <lizzy.johansen@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have always assumed that Thomas and Mary married shortly before the > l85l Census...the earliest child I have for them is William, b.l853... > however, it is possible that, given her age, Mary had been married > before and that she was a widower when she married Thomas....perhaps > that's why their marriage has been so difficult to find! They had a > "nursing child", Lewis WHITE, b. Norton, Radnor, l846, living with them > at Pembridge in l85l....If he were a step-son, he would have been called > such, wouldn't he? Hi Lizzy Do you have a birth certificate for any of their children? If so it should tell you if Mary had been married before. The name of the mother would be given as - Mary Price, late "previous married surname", formerly Williams. Of course this would only be the case if Mary told the Registrar that she had been married before. My G Grandmother is recorded on my GF's birth certificate as Sarah Powell, late Powell, formerly Mills. (she married her first husband's brother after he was killed in a mining accident) On her marriage to my GF she is simply named as Sarah Powell, condition Widow, no mention of her maiden name at all. I assume that Mary was a wet nurse to Lewis White and he may not be related at all. Diolch yn fawr/Thanks very much Terry ap Hywel Caerphilly, Wales www.terry-ap-hywel.info/family/ Member - Glam, Mon, Hereford FHS Researching FURNELL Rhymney MON 19c GWATKIN St Weonards HEF 18/19c HUBBARD Norwich NFK 18/19c Liverpool LAN to Aston WAR 20c JONES Troedyraur CGN 18c to Rhymney MON 19/20c JONES Pembroke Dock PEM 19c JORDAN/JORDEN STS 19c LLOYD Sully GLA to Rhymney MON 19c POWELL Orcop/St Weonards HEF 18c to Blaina MON 20c via Llantrisant GLA POWELL Pembroke Dock PEM 18c to Penarth GLA 20c SKYRME Skenfrith MON 18/19c WHISTANCE Cwmyoy HEF 18c to Ebbw Vale MON 19c