Duncan, The only William GLAD* (where * is a wildcard) on the HEF 1851 Census index aged between 21 and 25 is: Surname Fore Name Age Parish Piece Folio District GLADWIN William 48 Bodenham 1981 295a Leominster GLADWIN Mary 47 Bodenham 1981 295a Leominster GLADWIN William 22 Bodenham 1981 295a Leominster GLADWIN George 16 Bodenham 1981 295a Leominster GLADWIN James 12 Bodenham 1981 295a Leominster The only Jane *CAFF* under 15 was Surname Fore Name Age Parish Piece Folio District SCAFFULL John 37 Mordiford 1977 231b Hereford SCAFFULL Jane 36 Mordiford 1977 231b Hereford SCAFFULL Jane 09 Mordiford 1977 231b Hereford SCAFFULL Sarah 07 Mordiford 1977 231b Hereford SCAFFULL Emmerley 04 Mordiford 1977 231b Hereford SCAFFULL John 01 Mordiford 1977 231b Hereford Source: Herefordshire FHS 1851 Census index on CD, published August 2001. To obtain additional information incl. relationships, occupations, birthplace it will be necessary to view the original census on microfilm. So dependant on what Gordon finds out when he check the PR, this may be the one you are looking for. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Elliot" <fourkids@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:20 AM Subject: [HEF] Gladwin-Caffold Hi - I wonder if anyone would be able to help me on this one. I am trying to track down information on a couple: William Gladwin (or Gladding) and Jane Caffold. They were both illiterate, which meant that the spelling of William's surname was inconsistent: George has the surname Gladding on his birth certificate, although he was known as Gladwin. His 1881 census return suggests he was born around 1828 in Presteign and Jane was born around 1839 in Mortisford. They had at least 5 children: Duncan Elliot