Thanks Colin, I've made a note of that - have emailed Hereford Archives requesting they check the Madley PR's for a possible bapt. match c.1798/99 for a John MEREDITH - if that comes back no trace then Cradley will go into the hat. Away from Madley, the closest we can get so far for a match is at Weobly (6-8 miles north of Madley) re John MEREDITH son of John * Elizabeth, bapt. 17 Nov 1797. Can anyone claim this John? David P Meredith Nottingham > Hi David > There is Cradley near Worcestershire boundry not far from Malvern WORCS ?