Dear List,Forgot to say the wife's name could be Prudence not Phoebe. Dear List, I wonder if some one could find this family in 1861 or 1871 census. William GRIFFITHS head Sawyer born about 1808 ish Phoebe GRIFFITHS wife nee LAWFORD born about 1808 (died in Barrs Court HERE in 1876 age 68) thank you very much .Vicky Harding NZ