Hi Kevin, "of this parish" seems to me to be one of those phrases specifically designed to frustrate researchers in following centuries (another being "of full age" on marriage certificates). 'otp' doesn't necessarily mean that the person was born in that parish, only that they'd lived there at least long enough for the banns to be read (about 4 weeks - first tell the vicar you want to marry, then wait for 3 consecutive Sundays while he calls the banns after service). John may have been born in Much Marcle and been legally settled in Hereford city - you could only be legally settled in one parish at a time. My 5xgreat grandparents were removed from their birth parish, Syresham, NTH, to Greatworth, NTH because the family had fallen on hard times and the husband had at some point gained legal settlement in G'worth, so Syresham wouldn't give them parish relief despite them being born, baptised and married there. Have you found your John being baptised in Much Marcle? If you have, it shortens the odds that the baby and the man of Hereford city are the same person. No definitive proof, though, just the balance of probabilities. Regards, Ellie > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:01:34 +0000 > From: kevin mcc <cardiff2cork@hotmail.com> > Subject: [HEF] Of this parish? > To: "ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com" <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU116-W1863943304FBD1682A5A0B95370@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hello all, Im hoping someone can give me a definitive answer to the following? > > My Gx4 were John Evans and Mary Pritchard who married 1802 in Much Marcle. > > Mary was recorded as of this parish and John Evans was recorded as of All Saints Hereford City. > > I really thought John Evans was the son of John Evans and Margaret Mason born MM 1777. > > Every thing pointed to this ..... his cildren....eldest John and eldest daur. Margaret. > > Of course I can't accept John and Margaret as my Gx5 as John Gx4 is recorded as of Hereford City. > > However, what does this represent exactly? Could he have been of MM ...moved away for say 12 months and be described as of All saints? > > Could he be living in the parish 6 months and still be described as of Hereford City? > > There are numerous scenarios but I would like a definitive answer......if there is one. > > Many thanks , Kevin, Co Cork, Ireland.