I am very interested in this. I have a will of Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Wathen of Bodenham,i.e. will of Eliabeth Wathen of Bowley,Bodenham,widow, dated 29 Jan 1667 proved 1 Feb 1667 my daur Elizabeth wife of Richard Hatch; my daur Joyce wife of Thomas Badham; my son in lawe William Baddam; my daur Ursula nowe wife unto Mathew Turner; my daur Anne wife of James Winton; James Baddam and Johan Badham son and daur of William Badam & Margery his wife nowe of Balingham; my grandson Thomas Beddoes; instruments and other tools of my late husband Thomas Wathen deceased used for surveying and measuring land; my grandchild Mary Beddoes; my daur Mary Beddoes now wife unto Thomas Beddoes; my son in law Thomas Beddoes and Mary his wife; wit Wm Morris, James Beddows, Anne Nott, Thomas Beddoes, jr. FHL#91588 I also have a very detailed indenture which mentions a large number of their children and grandchildren. These are my 10th great grandparents. Note: they have no surviving MALE Issue-all female. Tracing Thomas Wathen ancestry would be of great interest to me. Steve Kelsey www.geocities.com/sjkelsey2000 www.woodyatt.bravehost.com www.geocities.com/herefpr -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bill waathen Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:26 AM To: MIDMARCH@rootsweb.com Cc: ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [HEF] WATHEN Family in Heref. Hello, I'm looking for information on a James Wathen family of possibly Abbey Dore or Allensmore, Kingstone, Heref., who reportedly had a will executed in 1667, naming his five sons in his will. One of his heirs, John WATHEN, or John B. WATHEN, or John Barton WATHEN, is, I believe, my direct ancestor. Anyone to help? Bill Wathen Florida ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Steve, Thank you very much for your interest in WATHEN. I know very little about a Thomas WATHEN, but there are reports that a Thos. WATHEN/WARTHEN, settled in what is now northern Virginia ca. 1634. If you would like more info on him I'll find what I can, just let me know. Also, and just as important, if not more so, is my lucky acquaintance with a wonderful lady in South Bend, Indiana, Carol Collins who has been researching the WATHEN name for years, long before the days of the I-net. Whatever info she has you can best take to the bank. I have not met Carol face to face, I hope to some day, but she and I have been corresponding via email for several years. Carol is a wonderful source of information, especially relating to the WATHENS who came to our shores. All for now. Best regards, Bill Wathen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [HEF] WATHEN Family in Heref. >I am very interested in this. I have a will of Elizabeth, wife of Thomas > Wathen of Bodenham,i.e. > will of Eliabeth Wathen of Bowley,Bodenham,widow, dated 29 Jan 1667 proved > 1 > Feb 1667 > my daur Elizabeth wife of Richard Hatch; my daur Joyce wife of Thomas > Badham; my son in lawe William Baddam; my daur Ursula nowe wife unto > Mathew > Turner; my daur Anne wife of James Winton; James Baddam and Johan Badham > son > and daur of William Badam & Margery his wife nowe of Balingham; my > grandson > Thomas Beddoes; instruments and other tools of my late husband Thomas > Wathen > deceased used for surveying and measuring land; my grandchild Mary > Beddoes; > my daur Mary Beddoes now wife unto Thomas Beddoes; my son in law Thomas > Beddoes and Mary his wife; wit Wm Morris, James Beddows, Anne Nott, Thomas > Beddoes, jr. > FHL#91588 > I also have a very detailed indenture which mentions a large number of > their > children and grandchildren. These are my 10th great grandparents. Note: > they have no surviving MALE > Issue-all female. Tracing Thomas Wathen ancestry would be of great > interest > to me. > > Steve Kelsey > www.geocities.com/sjkelsey2000 > www.woodyatt.bravehost.com > www.geocities.com/herefpr > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bill waathen > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:26 AM > To: MIDMARCH@rootsweb.com > Cc: ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HEF] WATHEN Family in Heref. > > Hello, > > I'm looking for information on a James Wathen family of possibly Abbey > Dore > or Allensmore, Kingstone, Heref., who reportedly had a will executed in > 1667, naming his five sons in his will. One of his heirs, John WATHEN, or > John B. WATHEN, or John Barton WATHEN, is, I believe, my direct ancestor. > Anyone to help? > > Bill Wathen > Florida > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1618 - Release Date: 8/18/2008 > 6:51 AM > > >

Can anyone tell me if there is a full list of the Hereford Diocese wills available online? Or is it only available at the Herefordshire Records Office? Incidentally, some list members may be interested in the following message I posted to the Monmouthshire lists recently: [Some group members will recall that a some months ago the Family Records Centre advertised several batches of microfilms for disposal. I am pleased to announce that I put in a bid and was successful in obtaining two batches: Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1383-1858 (PROB 11) This comprises approximately 1883 reels of microfilm. Miscellaneous Foreign Returns of birth, marriage and death, 1831-1969 (RG 32) Foreign Registers and Returns of birth, marriage and death, 1627-1960 (RG 33) Miscellaneous Foreign marriage returns, 1826-1921 (RG 34) Miscellaneous Foreign death returns, 1830-1921 (RG 35) Registers and Returns of births, marriages and deaths in the Protectorates etc of Africa and Asia, 1895-1965 (RG 36) Indexes to Miscellaneous Foreign Returns of births, marriages and deaths (RG 43) This comprises approximately 110 reels of microfilm. I have deposited all the microfilms at the Gwent Record Office and the GRO has now informed me that they are now available for public use. Since these microfilms came from The National Archives, there are some restrictions on their use, chiefly a prohibition on digitisation. The GRO has full details. Despite my best efforts, there are a few gaps in the PCC Wills, which we are trying to fill. Many thanks to Tony Hopkins, Acting County Archivist and the GRO staff for their co-operation throughout this project and their efforts in making the microfilms available quickly. Also, special thanks to the two members of staff who drove all the way to Essex and back, to collect the microfilms! I am sure that these new resources will be of great benefit to all of us researching Family History in Gwent.] Thanks, Peter Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [HEF] WATHEN Family in Heref. >I am very interested in this. I have a will of Elizabeth, wife of Thomas > Wathen of Bodenham,i.e. > will of Eliabeth Wathen of Bowley,Bodenham,widow, dated 29 Jan 1667 proved > 1 > Feb 1667 > my daur Elizabeth wife of Richard Hatch; my daur Joyce wife of Thomas > Badham; my son in lawe William Baddam; my daur Ursula nowe wife unto > Mathew > Turner; my daur Anne wife of James Winton; James Baddam and Johan Badham > son > and daur of William Badam & Margery his wife nowe of Balingham; my > grandson > Thomas Beddoes; instruments and other tools of my late husband Thomas > Wathen > deceased used for surveying and measuring land; my grandchild Mary > Beddoes; > my daur Mary Beddoes now wife unto Thomas Beddoes; my son in law Thomas > Beddoes and Mary his wife; wit Wm Morris, James Beddows, Anne Nott, Thomas > Beddoes, jr. > FHL#91588 > I also have a very detailed indenture which mentions a large number of > their > children and grandchildren. These are my 10th great grandparents. Note: > they have no surviving MALE > Issue-all female. Tracing Thomas Wathen ancestry would be of great > interest > to me. > > Steve Kelsey > www.geocities.com/sjkelsey2000 > www.woodyatt.bravehost.com > www.geocities.com/herefpr > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bill waathen > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:26 AM > To: MIDMARCH@rootsweb.com > Cc: ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HEF] WATHEN Family in Heref. > > Hello, > > I'm looking for information on a James Wathen family of possibly Abbey > Dore > or Allensmore, Kingstone, Heref., who reportedly had a will executed in > 1667, naming his five sons in his will. One of his heirs, John WATHEN, or > John B. WATHEN, or John Barton WATHEN, is, I believe, my direct ancestor. > Anyone to help? > > Bill Wathen > Florida > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There does not exist a full list of the Hereford Diocese wills(even at the Hereford Record Office as far as I know). One way this would be accomplished would be from extraction of the act books which go from 1662 to 1858(FHL film nos, 91622 through 91628), which for Hereford Diocese are all indexed(some at the front and some at the back). The other way(since the wills are all registered)each register has an index as well--except for a brief period near 1800. The actual admons for this period do not seem to be available so extraction from the act books would include the listing of the admons which would be very useful I did prepare a listing of the pre-act book (before 1662)wills(FHL film numbers 91631 through 91677) which is probably about 90% complete. This exists as a stack of paper about 2 reams high which is typewritten or handwritten. This 90+% complete index was filmed by the LDS and is available on the FHL or on microfilm through the family history centers. It is a listing of the wills in the order they appear on the microfilm. They are somewhat arranged by surname but a couple of films have wills in no set order(neither date nor surname arrangement). Stephen J. Kelsey -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Williams bcs Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:05 PM To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HEF] WATHEN Family in Heref. Can anyone tell me if there is a full list of the Hereford Diocese wills available online? Or is it only available at the Herefordshire Records Office? Incidentally, some list members may be interested in the following message I posted to the Monmouthshire lists recently: [Some group members will recall that a some months ago the Family Records Centre advertised several batches of microfilms for disposal. I am pleased to announce that I put in a bid and was successful in obtaining two batches: Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1383-1858 (PROB 11) This comprises approximately 1883 reels of microfilm. Miscellaneous Foreign Returns of birth, marriage and death, 1831-1969 (RG 32) Foreign Registers and Returns of birth, marriage and death, 1627-1960 (RG 33) Miscellaneous Foreign marriage returns, 1826-1921 (RG 34) Miscellaneous Foreign death returns, 1830-1921 (RG 35) Registers and Returns of births, marriages and deaths in the Protectorates etc of Africa and Asia, 1895-1965 (RG 36) Indexes to Miscellaneous Foreign Returns of births, marriages and deaths (RG 43) This comprises approximately 110 reels of microfilm. I have deposited all the microfilms at the Gwent Record Office and the GRO has now informed me that they are now available for public use. Since these microfilms came from The National Archives, there are some restrictions on their use, chiefly a prohibition on digitisation. The GRO has full details. Despite my best efforts, there are a few gaps in the PCC Wills, which we are trying to fill. Many thanks to Tony Hopkins, Acting County Archivist and the GRO staff for their co-operation throughout this project and their efforts in making the microfilms available quickly. Also, special thanks to the two members of staff who drove all the way to Essex and back, to collect the microfilms! I am sure that these new resources will be of great benefit to all of us researching Family History in Gwent.] Thanks, Peter Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [HEF] WATHEN Family in Heref. >I am very interested in this. I have a will of Elizabeth, wife of Thomas > Wathen of Bodenham,i.e. > will of Eliabeth Wathen of Bowley,Bodenham,widow, dated 29 Jan 1667 proved > 1 > Feb 1667 > my daur Elizabeth wife of Richard Hatch; my daur Joyce wife of Thomas > Badham; my son in lawe William Baddam; my daur Ursula nowe wife unto > Mathew > Turner; my daur Anne wife of James Winton; James Baddam and Johan Badham > son > and daur of William Badam & Margery his wife nowe of Balingham; my > grandson > Thomas Beddoes; instruments and other tools of my late husband Thomas > Wathen > deceased used for surveying and measuring land; my grandchild Mary > Beddoes; > my daur Mary Beddoes now wife unto Thomas Beddoes; my son in law Thomas > Beddoes and Mary his wife; wit Wm Morris, James Beddows, Anne Nott, Thomas > Beddoes, jr. > FHL#91588 > I also have a very detailed indenture which mentions a large number of > their > children and grandchildren. These are my 10th great grandparents. Note: > they have no surviving MALE > Issue-all female. Tracing Thomas Wathen ancestry would be of great > interest > to me. > > Steve Kelsey > www.geocities.com/sjkelsey2000 > www.woodyatt.bravehost.com > www.geocities.com/herefpr > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bill waathen > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:26 AM > To: MIDMARCH@rootsweb.com > Cc: ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HEF] WATHEN Family in Heref. > > Hello, > > I'm looking for information on a James Wathen family of possibly Abbey > Dore > or Allensmore, Kingstone, Heref., who reportedly had a will executed in > 1667, naming his five sons in his will. One of his heirs, John WATHEN, or > John B. WATHEN, or John Barton WATHEN, is, I believe, my direct ancestor. > Anyone to help? > > Bill Wathen > Florida > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message