David - I used to go "hop-picking" from 1-6 years of age, at Leaks' farm - Withington, Herfs. I would have thought if someone from Worestershire had a notice in a London paper, they would have married the daughter of a landowner/farmer of hops, not a ag. Lab planting hops. Terry (Ohio) -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Daniell Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:18 AM To: Herefordshire Rootsweb Subject: [HEF] Hops Can anyone tell me the correct description in the old censuses of people whose main occupation was growing hops? Or was this perforce a seasonal occupation? (so at census time they would not have been doing that?) Would they have been classes as ag-labs or would it have required enough skill to be regarded as a separate 'trade'? I notice in a recent message someone is described as a hop-planter. Might this have been someone who owned a plantation as distinct from an employee who planted them and trained them onto sticks etc? Thanks for any advice, David "14th October 1793, Sun Newspaper, London A few days since, at St. John's Worcester, Mr ROLLASON, Printer & Bookseller, Coventry, married to Miss OVEN, daughter of the late Mr James OVEN, Hop-planter and Grazier, Dilwyn Herefordshire Diane J." ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Terry, I'd agree but I still need to know if any particular name was given to people with the necessary expertise to look after the plants - or was / is it a simple and straightforward crop - like peas or beans or whatever. You know, you plant them, prop them up, harvest them then clear away the mess (or burn or dig it in?). I suspect some of my / our family may have done just that. Was hoping for some clues. Cheers David On 30/05/2008, at 1:00 AM, TERRY DIPPLE wrote: > David - I used to go "hop-picking" from 1-6 years of age, at Leaks' > farm - > Withington, Herfs. I would have thought if someone from > Worestershire had a > notice in a London paper, they would have married the daughter of a > landowner/farmer of hops, not a ag. Lab planting hops. > Terry (Ohio) > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Daniell > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:18 AM > To: Herefordshire Rootsweb > Subject: [HEF] Hops > > Can anyone tell me the correct description in the old censuses of > people whose main occupation was growing hops? > Or was this perforce a seasonal occupation? > (so at census time they would not have been doing that?) > Would they have been classes as ag-labs or would it have required > enough skill to be regarded as a separate 'trade'? > > I notice in a recent message someone is described as a hop-planter. > Might this have been someone who owned a plantation as distinct from > an employee who planted them and trained them onto sticks etc? > > Thanks for any advice, > David > > "14th October 1793, Sun Newspaper, London > A few days since, at St. John's Worcester, Mr ROLLASON, Printer & > Bookseller, Coventry, married to Miss OVEN, daughter of the late Mr > James > OVEN, Hop-planter and Grazier, Dilwyn Herefordshire > Diane J." > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

David - by the time we got there, they were already flowering (late Aug/Sep). They grew in long rows about 100/200 yds up strings about 6/7' high attached to wires, forming "binds" (like grape-vines) which had sharp bristles. Pole-pullers (like my father, taking a long holiday from coal-mining) would cut them down using a sharp hook on the end of a long pole. They would be thrown into a "crib" made from sacking, and the women and girls would pick the hops (no leaves) off the binds (I played the gipsy twins). Twice a day a "busheler" would come and "bushelem up", and we would get paid/bushel. They would then be taken into the oast houses to dry. The only chemical I can remember being used was Sulphur (probably for killing some bugs). There is a book on hop-picking you can buy from Bromyard FHS. Regards - Terry -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Daniell Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:24 AM To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HEF] Hops Hi Terry, I'd agree but I still need to know if any particular name was given to people with the necessary expertise to look after the plants - or was / is it a simple and straightforward crop - like peas or beans or whatever. You know, you plant them, prop them up, harvest them then clear away the mess (or burn or dig it in?). I suspect some of my / our family may have done just that. Was hoping for some clues. Cheers David On 30/05/2008, at 1:00 AM, TERRY DIPPLE wrote: > David - I used to go "hop-picking" from 1-6 years of age, at Leaks' > farm - > Withington, Herfs. I would have thought if someone from > Worestershire had a > notice in a London paper, they would have married the daughter of a > landowner/farmer of hops, not a ag. Lab planting hops. > Terry (Ohio) > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Daniell > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:18 AM > To: Herefordshire Rootsweb > Subject: [HEF] Hops > > Can anyone tell me the correct description in the old censuses of > people whose main occupation was growing hops? > Or was this perforce a seasonal occupation? > (so at census time they would not have been doing that?) > Would they have been classes as ag-labs or would it have required > enough skill to be regarded as a separate 'trade'? > > I notice in a recent message someone is described as a hop-planter. > Might this have been someone who owned a plantation as distinct from > an employee who planted them and trained them onto sticks etc? > > Thanks for any advice, > David > > "14th October 1793, Sun Newspaper, London > A few days since, at St. John's Worcester, Mr ROLLASON, Printer & > Bookseller, Coventry, married to Miss OVEN, daughter of the late Mr > James > OVEN, Hop-planter and Grazier, Dilwyn Herefordshire > Diane J." > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message