Cliff, the message you post on the lists gets sent to all on the list, which of course includes the sender (you), which is why you get your own message sent to you. A couple of things which might help you; Maybe the Leeds Wor was meant to be Leigh Wor, certainly sounds similar. (Pronounced LEE) Sometimes when asked where born it might be stated Hereford, if near to the location this may actually mean Hereford City, but when a long way off in America, just maybe this means Herefordshire. Leigh is just over the border into Worcestershire, just maybe they considered it to be in Herefordshire in the 1840's ?? Just something to think about. Emma does not appear to be in either the Herefordshire or Gloucestershire 1851 census indexes by the way. Phil Bufton Vice Chairman Herefordshire FHS www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lien" <cjl@interbaun.com> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: Fw: [HEF] Please help me find poor Emma Newson's lost Daddy and Mommy.... > This post came back to me this morning. Not sure why? > > > My GG grandmother was Emma Marie Newson, born 19 Dec. 1842. (date from a letter written by her daughter) > > I have her marriage certificate, which gives her father as Thomas Newson, farmer. > > Her marker in Toronto, Canada and the 1881 Canadian census support her birthdate as 1842. > > The marriage certificate gives her age as 21 in 1861. > > > > On 21 Feb. 1861 in London, Emma married John Gough Brick, (b. 28 Mar. 1836 in Upton upon Severn, Wor.) > > Emma's address was 55 Edward Street, Regent Park - John's was 3 High Street, Hereford > > I have no idea what John was doing in London. > > > > Their first son, John Gough Brick (2) was born All Saints, Hereford in 1862 according to 1881 census for King's Pyon, > Her. > > > > John (1) and Emma emigrated to Canada about 1865. John (2) stayed with his grand-aunt to finish his education. > > > > A story by one of John and Emma's sons states "My mother was born in Hereford, England" > > An old family tree drawn by one of their nieces gives Emma's birthplace as "Leeds, WOR" ??? (Maybe should have been > Yorkshire?) > > > > I can't find Emma Marie in the IGI and with no location, I can't find a Thomas Newson either. > > (John and Emma were married in a Primitive Methodist church. > > If she was baptized PM, there may be no parish record which made it into the IGI) > > > > Could someone help me find either: > > Emma Marie Newson, with father Thomas, age about 9 in the 1851 census, location unknown. > > or Emma Marie Brick, with husband John Brick, almost certainly in Hereford, age about 19 or 21, in the 1861 census? > > > > If I could find a birthplace, I might be able to track down her family. > > > > I've struggled with this for a long time. It would be a great Christmas present to locate her family. > > > > Thanks and Merry Christmas to all, > > Cliff Lien > > Alberta, Canada > > cjl@interbaun.com > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >