Hi Bob I might not have sufficient information to be able to claim the $20 reward, but I spent quite a lot of time this summer researching the precise family you mention. If these people are your ancestors then I can almost certainly put you in touch with a "cousin" in Canada if you'd care to contact me off-list. Regards Gordon Evans Herefordshire UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Alan Rudd" <ruddfam@acr.net.au> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:24 PM Subject: [HEF] Super Sleuths Solicited > And a reward of a donation to the charity of your choice in Australia of $20 > for the most likely and also the most imaginative solutions to the following > complicated conundrum.Whilst it took place in HEF it could have been > anywhere rural so read on, please > > Saturday Aug 10th 1850 Thomas Lippett was born at The Pound, Grendon Bishop, > Father John Lippett of that address, Mother Eliza Lippett formerly Baugh. > > SUNDAY (sic) 11th Aug 1850 The birth was registered by the Father, details > as above. > > Friday Aug 16th 1850 an unnamed child was privately christened at Grendon > Bishop - no father - Mother Eliza Baugh - Singlewoman of the parish. > > Tuesday Aug 20th 1850 John Lippett's sister Ann lent their father 16 pounds > (which she had presumably gained as part of a settlement for an illegitimate > child she had born 4 years previously) > > Saturday Aug 24th 1850 the father made a Will mentioning the 16 Pounds. > > SUNDAY (sic) Sep 8th 1850 John Lippett of full age (he was 28) Batchelor and > Eliza Baugh Spinster, a Minor (she was 18), both of the parish, were married > by Banns This is entered in the Grendon Bishop parish register but it is > written that it took place in the Parish of Hatfield (next door). This is > the first of several entries made by a new curate or incumbent so it could > be that he just made an error but!! > > 8th January 1851 John son of Emma Baugh (sister of Eliza and aged 20) > Singlewoman of the Parish of Grendon Bishop was christened at Bodenham (her > parents parish). Birth Certificate not inspected. > > 1851 Census has John and Eliza Lippett moved up the hill to Little Hegdon in > the West of Pencombe Parish with their son Thomas AND staying at John's > parents' cottage (delightfully named Bigfield Green) just down the road is > Emma Baugh with her son John as visitors!!!! (Emma never married, John is > last heard of unmarried as a Tramp aged 50 in the Police lock up at Seaham > in Durham in 1901 so is unlikely to have married and been able to give his > father's name if he knew it). > > Whilst it would appear from the timing that the loan of 16 pounds relates to > this complex situation and I understand that a common settlement for > bastardy was 30 pounds being made up of 16 pounds for the lying in and a > pound a year for 14 years (any comments), it must be mentioned that John > Lippett's long widowed grandmother had died in April 1850 so it could > possibly have had to do with a property related settlement as the family > either owned or leased Bigfield Green (on tithe list for 1837) and he did > have a younger brother. > > Note. Careful checking has established that there was only one John Lippett, > one Eliza Baugh and one Emma Baugh available to take part in this mess. > > Any and all suggestions welcomed as to who did what when and how and to > whom. I have some ideas of course but the overall situation is so complex > that I'd like yours. > > Bob Rudd in a very dry and dangerous NSW - so far no fires in our area. > > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >