Dear Listers I'm writing to offer you some info about Shobdon Court and Lord Bateman. In the Hereford RO there is a group of documents presented in 1949 by Gre(n)ville Phillips, file reference P6. Document 6/22/7 is "An account of the meeting of the tenantry and tradesmen of Lord Batemen [sic] for the purpose of presenting Mr SMITH, late of Shobdon Court, with a piece of plate with tea service as a mark of their esteem and respect. Contains transcript of speeches given. 22 February 1838." Document 6/22/8 is a list of subscribers to above plate. My interest was in some of the other docs. in the file (principally those relating to the GRAINGER family) so I didn't examine these two very closely: as I remember they were no more than hastily written notes. However, I thought I would offer these comments in case you want to follow them up. Kind regards, Bert Pemberton in Blackpool, Lancs. >From: "gordon evans" <gordonwevans@btinternet.com> >To: ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [HEF] Lady J BATEMAN?/WILLIAM SKINNER >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:04:11 +0100 > >Hello Fred > >I'm afraid that in the 1841 Census Shobdon Court, Herefordshire, was (like >your Bath address) occupied by just two man-servants - William TAYLOR, aged >30, and Richard WILLIAMS, aged 17. >I couldn't see anything in the Census which might have given a clue as to >who owned the property, but the BATEMAN family were certainly very >influential in the area >in the 18th and 19th centuries (the local pub is to this day called the >Bateman Arms). >Kellys 1934 Directory of Herefordshire mentions that when the ancient >Shobdon church (built 1141) was pulled down down in 1752 Lord BATEMAN >caused >the three principal arches to be re-erected in the park, where they still >remain. In the "new" church (erected 1753) there is a fine monument to >John, >last Viscount BATEMAN & Baron of Culmore, who died on 2 March 1802, and >another to William (HANBURY), 1st Baron BATEMAN, who died 22 July 1845. > >The fact that a birth at Shobdon Court to a Lady BATEMAN was reported in >the >Bath Chronicle would suggest that there was a family link between the two >places, but not being a native Herefordian I'm afraid I can't tell you what >that might have been. > >No doubt someone on this list with a better knowledge of local history than >I have will be able to point you in the right direction (if they haven't >already done so). > >Kind regards > >Gordon Evans > >--- Original Message ----- >From: <Skinneratdhobie@aol.com> >To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:04 PM >Subject: [HEF] Lady J BATEMAN?/WILLIAM SKINNER > > > > Hi Listers, > > I'm new to this list so here is my current brick wall. > > I am trying to establish the identity of a Lady J BATEMAN who in the >1851 > > census was at her address of 19, Marlborough Buildings, Bath in Somerset >with > > her butler, WILLIAM SKINNER my 2X Great Uncle. Her age is given as 80 >(place > > of birth not given) and his as 63 born Selworthy, Somerset. > > > > The 1841 census shows the address was in the possession of Lady >BATEMAN >but > > on the day of the census the house was only occupied by two servants. > > > > A check of Pigot's 1830 and 1842 Somerset Directories shows Lady >BATEMAN > > and Hon Lady BATEMAN at 19, Marlboro' Buildings respectively, at no time >is > > her first name used. > > > > An entry in the Bath Chronical dated 10.12.1840 states:- November 30 >at > > Shobden Court, Herefordshire, the Right Hon Lady BATEMAN, a daughter. >It >is > > hardly likely that the Lady J BATEMAN I am trying to identify would be >the > > mother of this little girl, but there is probably a connection >somewhere. > > > > In an effort to trace the movements and possible descendents of my 2X >Great > > Uncle I need to identify this elusive Lady J BATEMAN. > > > > Can anyone please help (1) to identify her; > > > > (2) if you have access to the 1841 >census > > for Herefordshire please look up Shobdon Court . > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > Fred Skinner. > > > >==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== >. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp