David - I used to go "hop-picking" from 1-6 years of age, at Leaks' farm - Withington, Herfs. I would have thought if someone from Worestershire had a notice in a London paper, they would have married the daughter of a landowner/farmer of hops, not a ag. Lab planting hops. Terry (Ohio) -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Daniell Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:18 AM To: Herefordshire Rootsweb Subject: [HEF] Hops Can anyone tell me the correct description in the old censuses of people whose main occupation was growing hops? Or was this perforce a seasonal occupation? (so at census time they would not have been doing that?) Would they have been classes as ag-labs or would it have required enough skill to be regarded as a separate 'trade'? I notice in a recent message someone is described as a hop-planter. Might this have been someone who owned a plantation as distinct from an employee who planted them and trained them onto sticks etc? Thanks for any advice, David "14th October 1793, Sun Newspaper, London A few days since, at St. John's Worcester, Mr ROLLASON, Printer & Bookseller, Coventry, married to Miss OVEN, daughter of the late Mr James OVEN, Hop-planter and Grazier, Dilwyn Herefordshire Diane J." ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Weobley LHS are holding the 31st Annual day School at Weobley Village Hall on Saturday 7th June 2008 Entitled 'Castle, Church and Borough' Speakers include: Dr Georg Nash, archaeologist who was in charge of the archaeological digs in weobley. Joe Hillaby, local urban historian and writer Duncan James, architectural historian who has a lot of work on Herefordshire village buildings. Tickets for the whole day cost £12 For info and booking form contact Mrs P. Millington. pat.mill@btinternet.com
Hi Richard, The Harriet in your certificate is the right age. Could it be that the informant was confused, or confused the registrar? There are only two other possibilities in your timeframe (Harriet at Neath or Hannah at Whitechapel). I don't know what details may be available on the parish or cemetery records, but I think that it is worth trying to view them in case either record her husband as William. Sandra -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cudd, Richard Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 9:07 PM To: ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [HEF] Walters certificates Dear list, I have a few death certificates which I ordered but turned out not to be the right ones. If anyone would like them please let me know and I will happily send them: 17/2/1861 Harriett Walters, wife of Thomas Walters, died aged 48, Ledbury 25/1/1865 Henry Walters, son of Michael Walters, died aged 3, Ledbury 27/9/1882 William Walters, died aged 77, Brimfield (son George Walters) Also, if anyone has any information on the people I'm looking for, it would be most appreciated: Harriet or Hannah Walters, wife of William Walters, died between April 1860 (birth of daughter Agnes) and April 1861 (census). Family lived in Homend St., Ledbury. Born Harriet Smith ca. 1811. Henry Walters, born ca. 1780 in Bishops Frome, married Mary Price in Avenbury in 1803. Died between Aril 1861 & April 1871, lived in Homend, Ledbury. Wife Mary also died between same dates. William Walters born ca. 1805 in Bromyard, married to Harriet as above, son of Henry & Mary as above. Living in Grendon Bishop with daughter Sarah Haskell in April 1881. Assumed died before April 1891. Best regards, Richard Cudd ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Sandra, I think you could be right; I've searched through the census records to try and find 'Thomas & Harriet' but they just do not appear to exist. The street where 'Thomas & Harriet' were living is given as Smoke Alley on Harriet's death certificate which I believe was off the Homend. This location coupled with Harriet's age leads me to agree with you that a mistake must have been made during registration, or William was using another name, perhaps to distinguish him from his eldest son, also called William, who was still living at home in 1861. Unfortunately I live down in Southampton so do not easy access to the registers but will be interested to check when I have the chance. Thanks, Richard -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Lewis Sent: 27 May 2008 08:34 To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HEF] Walters certificates Hi Richard, The Harriet in your certificate is the right age. Could it be that the informant was confused, or confused the registrar? There are only two other possibilities in your timeframe (Harriet at Neath or Hannah at Whitechapel). I don't know what details may be available on the parish or cemetery records, but I think that it is worth trying to view them in case either record her husband as William. Sandra -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cudd, Richard Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 9:07 PM To: ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [HEF] Walters certificates Dear list, I have a few death certificates which I ordered but turned out not to be the right ones. If anyone would like them please let me know and I will happily send them: 17/2/1861 Harriett Walters, wife of Thomas Walters, died aged 48, Ledbury 25/1/1865 Henry Walters, son of Michael Walters, died aged 3, Ledbury 27/9/1882 William Walters, died aged 77, Brimfield (son George Walters) Also, if anyone has any information on the people I'm looking for, it would be most appreciated: Harriet or Hannah Walters, wife of William Walters, died between April 1860 (birth of daughter Agnes) and April 1861 (census). Family lived in Homend St., Ledbury. Born Harriet Smith ca. 1811. Henry Walters, born ca. 1780 in Bishops Frome, married Mary Price in Avenbury in 1803. Died between Aril 1861 & April 1871, lived in Homend, Ledbury. Wife Mary also died between same dates. William Walters born ca. 1805 in Bromyard, married to Harriet as above, son of Henry & Mary as above. Living in Grendon Bishop with daughter Sarah Haskell in April 1881. Assumed died before April 1891. Best regards, Richard Cudd ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have been out of the frame on the Waring family for so long and maybe new records will come to light. Where the family were living is right on the Welsh border, so could have been in Wales. The borders have changed over the years. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: <Reneelwaring@aol.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [HEF] Waring family of Herefordshire > > In a message dated 5/24/08 1:15:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > patricia@waring274.wanadoo.co.uk writes: > > Several of the census give different places of birth including Furness, > Herefordshire. From my understanding there is no such place as Furness. > Unless > someone can suggest something different > > Hi Patricia. > > Did you ever check in Shropshire? I believe (I may be wrong) that at one > time the border was farther north and some births were registered in > Herefordshire but were in actually Shropshire. That would make a lot of > sense since there > are a lot of Waring's in Shropshire. > > Renee > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Dear Terry, Thank you very much for your help. I'll try the Website tomorrow, Sunday. In the meanwime, please know that I'm grateful. All good wishes, Mary Jane Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "TERRY DIPPLE" <tadip44@cinci.rr.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [HEF] ENG-HEREFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 115 > Mary J. - try this website - http://www.parishregisters.co.uk/- there are > some PHILLIPS born 1723 in Colwall > Regards - Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mimi's Email > Account > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:17 AM > To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HEF] ENG-HEREFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 115 > > I am researching PHILLIPS in Herefordshire in the 1700s. I'd be grateful > for > > any help.. > All good wishes, > Mary Jane Phillips > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MJen512444@aol.com> > To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:07 AM > Subject: Re: [HEF] ENG-HEREFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 115 > > >> Hello Heather, >> >> I am sorry, but I do not have the details in front of me now, but I will >> work from memory as much as possible. >> >> I have a Beavan connection. It was a Thomas Beavan of Skynlas in >> Glasbury >> and he was a cousin of my Thomas Pugh of Llandeilo Graban. There is a >> will >> that tells this. The time element is right too. >> >> I did some searching some years ago, and found a few Beavan marriages. >> One >> married a Hargest. >> >> I cannot recall a Lewis at present though. My lot married by licence. >> >> If there are any clues in there for starters, then do get in touch. >> >> I have just checked your name, and I should tell you that I also have >> Smith >> who married my Pugh. >> >> My Smith family started in Kington, Hereford in 1755 with a Jonas Smith. >> He >> firstly married a Catherine Clee, then she died in 1796 if memory serves >> me >> right, and he then married my ancestress in 1801 in Colva. >> >> All these surnames can become very complicated but they do seem to stick >> in >> the mind. >> >> Sorry if I have not been very much help at present. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Maureen >> Rhondda >> >> >> >> >> ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- >> A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
After some absense from this site am trying to get through my "wall" My 3 x grandfather was John Waring born November 1803 Several of the census give different places of birth including Furness, Herefordshire. From my understanding there is no such place as Furness. Unless someone can suggest something different The familysearch.org site has had this name placed on it and also his alleged father married to his wife, Catherine Carver. His father has been given the name John also, which is totally unproven. My father came from Dorstone, Herefordshire. At the time John Waring was born there was a Waring family at Kinnersley, which isn't far to walk I understand, across the fields, but cannot link my grandfather x to this particular family. Could anyone kindly make any suggestions as to where I can search to find his background. He was an ag lab and wonder if he could be a nephew of the family but I keep hitting brick walls. I have even had a local researcher on the trail back in 2000/2001 but nothing. Are there any of the local church records for that area in Herefordshire record office that are not on the family search site. Any help greatly appreciated. many thanks Patricia Waring
In a message dated 5/24/08 1:15:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patricia@waring274.wanadoo.co.uk writes: Several of the census give different places of birth including Furness, Herefordshire. From my understanding there is no such place as Furness. Unless someone can suggest something different Hi Patricia. Did you ever check in Shropshire? I believe (I may be wrong) that at one time the border was farther north and some births were registered in Herefordshire but were in actually Shropshire. That would make a lot of sense since there are a lot of Waring's in Shropshire. Renee **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
Mary J. - try this website - http://www.parishregisters.co.uk/- there are some PHILLIPS born 1723 in Colwall Regards - Terry -----Original Message----- From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mimi's Email Account Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:17 AM To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HEF] ENG-HEREFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 115 I am researching PHILLIPS in Herefordshire in the 1700s. I'd be grateful for any help.. All good wishes, Mary Jane Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJen512444@aol.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [HEF] ENG-HEREFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 115 > Hello Heather, > > I am sorry, but I do not have the details in front of me now, but I will > work from memory as much as possible. > > I have a Beavan connection. It was a Thomas Beavan of Skynlas in > Glasbury > and he was a cousin of my Thomas Pugh of Llandeilo Graban. There is a > will > that tells this. The time element is right too. > > I did some searching some years ago, and found a few Beavan marriages. > One > married a Hargest. > > I cannot recall a Lewis at present though. My lot married by licence. > > If there are any clues in there for starters, then do get in touch. > > I have just checked your name, and I should tell you that I also have > Smith > who married my Pugh. > > My Smith family started in Kington, Hereford in 1755 with a Jonas Smith. > He > firstly married a Catherine Clee, then she died in 1796 if memory serves > me > right, and he then married my ancestress in 1801 in Colva. > > All these surnames can become very complicated but they do seem to stick > in > the mind. > > Sorry if I have not been very much help at present. > > Best wishes, > > Maureen > Rhondda > > > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am researching PHILLIPS in Herefordshire in the 1700s. I'd be grateful for any help.. All good wishes, Mary Jane Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: <MJen512444@aol.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [HEF] ENG-HEREFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 115 > Hello Heather, > > I am sorry, but I do not have the details in front of me now, but I will > work from memory as much as possible. > > I have a Beavan connection. It was a Thomas Beavan of Skynlas in > Glasbury > and he was a cousin of my Thomas Pugh of Llandeilo Graban. There is a > will > that tells this. The time element is right too. > > I did some searching some years ago, and found a few Beavan marriages. > One > married a Hargest. > > I cannot recall a Lewis at present though. My lot married by licence. > > If there are any clues in there for starters, then do get in touch. > > I have just checked your name, and I should tell you that I also have > Smith > who married my Pugh. > > My Smith family started in Kington, Hereford in 1755 with a Jonas Smith. > He > firstly married a Catherine Clee, then she died in 1796 if memory serves > me > right, and he then married my ancestress in 1801 in Colva. > > All these surnames can become very complicated but they do seem to stick > in > the mind. > > Sorry if I have not been very much help at present. > > Best wishes, > > Maureen > Rhondda > > > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello Heather, I am sorry, but I do not have the details in front of me now, but I will work from memory as much as possible. I have a Beavan connection. It was a Thomas Beavan of Skynlas in Glasbury and he was a cousin of my Thomas Pugh of Llandeilo Graban. There is a will that tells this. The time element is right too. I did some searching some years ago, and found a few Beavan marriages. One married a Hargest. I cannot recall a Lewis at present though. My lot married by licence. If there are any clues in there for starters, then do get in touch. I have just checked your name, and I should tell you that I also have Smith who married my Pugh. My Smith family started in Kington, Hereford in 1755 with a Jonas Smith. He firstly married a Catherine Clee, then she died in 1796 if memory serves me right, and he then married my ancestress in 1801 in Colva. All these surnames can become very complicated but they do seem to stick in the mind. Sorry if I have not been very much help at present. Best wishes, Maureen Rhondda
Article found in Ipswich Journal (Suffolk) for Sat. 31st December 1870 In the rural district of Garway, near Hereford, a labouring man this week attempted to murder a young woman, and thereafter committed suicide. It appears that Mr J. EMBREY had in his service at the Church Farm, a waggoner named Amos MORRIS, and a young woman engaged as servant in the house. MORRIS made advances to the girl, which she objected. She favoured another suitor. MORRIS, however, persisted in his attentions, and as she continued obdurate he threatened suicide. On Sunday last the banns were published in the parish church for the marriage of the young woman to another man named Thomas CLARK, a carpenter. On the following day, shortly after the girl had gone to an outhouse among the farm buildings, MORRIS entered his master's house and told him that she was lying in the outhouse and "could not get from there". Mr EMBREY proceded to the spot, and found the girl lying on the ground insensible. She had been severely injured and still lies in a critical state. As the girl was being carried into the house a gunshot was heard and it was found that MORRIS had shot himself. He was quite dead. Diane Johansen LEWIS of Holmer, PRICE of Lyonshall Researching none of the above.
Dear list, I have a few death certificates which I ordered but turned out not to be the right ones. If anyone would like them please let me know and I will happily send them: 17/2/1861 Harriett Walters, wife of Thomas Walters, died aged 48, Ledbury 25/1/1865 Henry Walters, son of Michael Walters, died aged 3, Ledbury 27/9/1882 William Walters, died aged 77, Brimfield (son George Walters) Also, if anyone has any information on the people I'm looking for, it would be most appreciated: Harriet or Hannah Walters, wife of William Walters, died between April 1860 (birth of daughter Agnes) and April 1861 (census). Family lived in Homend St., Ledbury. Born Harriet Smith ca. 1811. Henry Walters, born ca. 1780 in Bishops Frome, married Mary Price in Avenbury in 1803. Died between Aril 1861 & April 1871, lived in Homend, Ledbury. Wife Mary also died between same dates. William Walters born ca. 1805 in Bromyard, married to Harriet as above, son of Henry & Mary as above. Living in Grendon Bishop with daughter Sarah Haskell in April 1881. Assumed died before April 1891. Best regards, Richard Cudd
Dear Heather, I am related to the BEAVAN/ BEVAN's of Orcop and were around that area you mention. They had been there since 1500's so lots of relies . I will write to you off list .regards Vicky Harding, New Zealand
Hello List Can anyone assist me with my brickwall with my Beavan/Bevan family, please? Is anyone related to my Beavan or Lewis families, please? I know for certain that my Howell Lewis married a Sarah Bevan at Boughrood Parish Church Radnorshire on the 18 August 1824. A daughter of John and Sarah Beavan was baptised at Glasbury Parish Church Breconshire on 20 September 1801. Glasbury Church is just across the other side of the Wye River from Boughrood. The river divides the two counties. There are no other baptism's of any other children for John and Sarah Beavan at either churches. The only marriage that may relate to John and Sarah Beavan is one that took place at Cloddock and Longtown Parish Hereford by licence on 16 July 1801. This church is not too far away. John Beavan a farmer recorded that he was from Allansmore and Sarah was from Cloddock her maiden name was Lewis. In the Allansmore baptisms John is recorded as the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Beavan baptised 4 February 1775. Now comes the problem there are in total seven Thomas Beavan's marriages between 1771 and 1775 The one that looks most likely is 9 September 1768. Thomas Bevan to Elizabeth Lewis of Eaton Bishop. This Thomas Bevan is from Allensmore. Does any of the above tie in with any of your families, please? Do you know if I am on the right track? All the best Heather
Hi Steve Sorry to ask another question but how can I access the immigration records? Sylvia > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:29:10 +1000 > From: steven.sims.e@comcen.com.au > To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HEF] POWELL emigration to Australia 1873 > > Hi Sylvia, > > Yes, the immigration records should give everyone's birthplace, names of > their parents, and lots of other info - but only on the original record, > not in the online index (which just gives age). > > Regards > Steve > > sylvia morgan wrote: >> Hi StevenMany thanks for your help. I found that the POWELL family (went on the Tim Whiffler) on the Queensland assisted passage web-site you gave.Can I use the reference nos that was allocated to them to check if they came from the parish of Madely? >> Thanks again >> Sylvia----------------------------------------> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:16:42 +1000> From: steven.sims.e@comcen.com.au> To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HEF] POWELL emigration to Australia 1873>> Hi Sylvia,>> By 1873 all the current Australian states were separate colonies, with> separate record-keeping; so where to look depends on what port they went> to - do you have any info on this?>> Also, do you know if they were assisted immigrants, or self funded?> (most likely assisted, unless they were wealthy.) For self-funded,> shipping lists are about the best you can hope for. For assisted> immigrants there is a much better paper trail; the basic arrival records> usually have birthplace, age, religion, read/write, parents names and> residence, etc. Then there are land grant records and so on.>> I had a quick look at the New South Wales indexes which are online at> http:! > 7;! >> /www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp>> However they had no assisted POWELL to Sydney in years 1870-75.>> There are some in the Queensland assisted indexes for 1873:> http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/indexes.asp>> POWELL names in the Qld index include the following who travelled in> 1873 (date is arrival):> "Great Queensland" 2 Sep 1873: Annie 24> "Landsborough" 24 Oct 1873: William H 18> "Gauntlet" 15 Nov 1873: William 44, Frank 22, Catherine 20, Mary Ann 20,> Ann Elizabeth 18, Caroline 18, Emily 16> "Tim Whiffler" 26 Jan 1874: William 43, Caroline 38, William 13, Charles> 9, Emily 7, Agnes 3>> Other state archives may have similar indexes online - for Victoria I> seem to recall there is; Western Australia, South Australia, Tasmania> I'm not so sure, but they all will have some sort of info online. There> are also many online shippin! > g ! >> records about the place, but I have always> found the immigration rec >> ords the best starting point.>> Cheers> Steve>> sylvia morgan wrote:> > Hi> > Has anyone any knowledge of the emigration of a POWELL family to Australia in 1873 or can tell me where I could research it?> > Sylvia> >>> ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ----> A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford>> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ >> ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- >> A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Be a Hero and Win with Iron Man http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000009ukm/direct/01/
Hi Sylvia I am going into "Genie" shed today and will check to see if we have that film and what info is on it for you. Kathy, Bundaberg Queensland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Sims" <steven.sims.e@comcen.com.au> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [HEF] POWELL emigration to Australia 1873 > Hi Sylvia, > > Yes, the immigration records should give everyone's birthplace, names of > their parents, and lots of other info - but only on the original record, > not in the online index (which just gives age). > > Regards > Steve > > sylvia morgan wrote: >> Hi StevenMany thanks for your help. I found that the POWELL family (went >> on the Tim Whiffler) on the Queensland assisted passage web-site you >> gave.Can I use the reference nos that was allocated to them to check if >> they came from the parish of Madely? >> Thanks again >> Sylvia----------------------------------------> Date: Mon, 12 May >> 2008 20:16:42 +1000> From: >> steven.sims.e@comcen.com.au> To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [HEF] POWELL emigration to Australia 1873> > >> Hi Sylvia,> > By 1873 all the current Australian states were separate >> colonies, with > separate record-keeping; so where to look depends on >> what port they went > to - do you have any info on this?> > Also, do >> you know if they were assisted immigrants, or self funded? > >> (most likely assisted, unless they were wealthy.) For >> self-funded, > shipping lists are about the best you can hope for. For >> assisted > immigrants there is a much better paper trail; the basic >> arrival records > usually have birthplace, age, religion, read/write, >> parents names and > residence, etc. Then there are land grant records and >> so on.> > I had a quick look at the New South Wales indexes which are >> online at> http:! > 7;! >> /www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp> > >> However they had no assisted POWELL to Sydney in years 1870-75.> > There >> are some in the Queensland assisted indexes for 1873:> >> http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/indexes.asp> >> > POWELL names in the Qld index include the following who travelled in > >> 1873 (date is arrival):> "Great Queensland" 2 Sep >> 1873: Annie 24> "Landsborough" 24 Oct 1873: William H 18> >> "Gauntlet" 15 Nov 1873: William 44, Frank 22, Catherine 20, >> Mary Ann 20, > Ann Elizabeth 18, Caroline 18, Emily 16> "Tim >> Whiffler" 26 Jan 1874: William 43, Caroline 38, William 13, >> Charles > 9, Emily 7, Agnes 3> > Other state archives may have similar >> indexes online - for Victoria I > seem to recall there is; Western >> Australia, South Australia, Tasmania > I'm not so sure, but they all >> will have some sort of info online. There > are also many online shippin! > g ! >> records about the place, but I have always > found the immigration rec >> ords the best starting point.> > Cheers> Steve> > sylvia morgan >> wrote:> > Hi> > Has anyone any knowledge of the emigration of >> a POWELL family to Australia in 1873 or can tell me where I could >> research it?> > Sylvia> > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing >> List ----> A genealogy and local history list covering the County of >> Hereford> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the >> list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the message >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win >> on eBay today! >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ >> ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- >> A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1427 - Release Date: > 11/05/2008 1:08 PM >
Hi Sylvia, Yes, the immigration records should give everyone's birthplace, names of their parents, and lots of other info - but only on the original record, not in the online index (which just gives age). Regards Steve sylvia morgan wrote: > Hi StevenMany thanks for your help. I found that the POWELL family (went on the Tim Whiffler) on the Queensland assisted passage web-site you gave.Can I use the reference nos that was allocated to them to check if they came from the parish of Madely? > Thanks again > Sylvia----------------------------------------> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:16:42 +1000> From: steven.sims.e@comcen.com.au> To: eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HEF] POWELL emigration to Australia 1873> > Hi Sylvia,> > By 1873 all the current Australian states were separate colonies, with > separate record-keeping; so where to look depends on what port they went > to - do you have any info on this?> > Also, do you know if they were assisted immigrants, or self funded? > (most likely assisted, unless they were wealthy.) For self-funded, > shipping lists are about the best you can hope for. For assisted > immigrants there is a much better paper trail; the basic arrival records > usually have birthplace, age, religion, read/write, parents names and > residence, etc. Then there are land grant records and so on.> > I had a quick look at the New South Wales indexes which are online at> http:! 7;! > /www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp> > However they had no assisted POWELL to Sydney in years 1870-75.> > There are some in the Queensland assisted indexes for 1873:> http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/indexes.asp> > POWELL names in the Qld index include the following who travelled in > 1873 (date is arrival):> "Great Queensland" 2 Sep 1873: Annie 24> "Landsborough" 24 Oct 1873: William H 18> "Gauntlet" 15 Nov 1873: William 44, Frank 22, Catherine 20, Mary Ann 20, > Ann Elizabeth 18, Caroline 18, Emily 16> "Tim Whiffler" 26 Jan 1874: William 43, Caroline 38, William 13, Charles > 9, Emily 7, Agnes 3> > Other state archives may have similar indexes online - for Victoria I > seem to recall there is; Western Australia, South Australia, Tasmania > I'm not so sure, but they all will have some sort of info online. There > are also many online shippin! g ! > records about the place, but I have always > found the immigration rec > ords the best starting point.> > Cheers> Steve> > sylvia morgan wrote:> > Hi> > Has anyone any knowledge of the emigration of a POWELL family to Australia in 1873 or can tell me where I could research it?> > Sylvia> > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ----> A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Hi Manaia, We are of one mind. I'd love to see some statistics though. cheers David On 12 May 2008, at 23:33, Manaia Alofa wrote: > HI David: > > My ancestors emigrants of Scotland, Ireland, and > England, though not "wealthy" according to standards > of today were able to pay passage to Australia as > unassisted passengers before 1830s because they were > on a mission to start anew. > > I never saw the word "wealthy" to mean advantageous, > affluent, lucrative, etc., for my ancestors or for > unassisted passengers of yesteryear. I think people of > yesteryear knew who were the "wealthy" ones - > Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie. And they had money > equal to Bill Gates of today! > > I like to think people of yesteryear were "wealthy" > insofaras skills, knowledge, ambition, etc., because > they all came with a drive to Live. At least for my > ancestors, and their descents are living proof of that > desire of yesterday. > > Kind Regards, > --Manaia > > ++++ > > --- David Daniell <ddaniell@woosh.co.nz> wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> Are there any published records that (effectively) >> show the ratio of >> assisted to unassisted immigration? >> Asking because I am surprised that you say the >> unassisted would have >> been "wealthy". >> David >> Auckland > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
Sorry to be churlish, but am I the only one who is getting all these messages flagged as potential 'phishing messages'.............? I think it is the long streams of 'html' or whatever it is in the body of the message that aren't being clipped by subsequent responders. Please could all contributers make sure that this is cropped out of their responses. Thankyou, Adele