Dear Polly, The family were non-conformist [Welsh Cavinist Methodists] and no doubt would have had their children baptised, but it may not have been at Wellington Church. Can make enquiries though. WENDY

Dear Polly, Thanks for your help. I am helping a 3rd cousin who lives in Anglesey [never met him] and I will enquire as to whether his granfhather served in WW1. John's wife, Mary, is known to have worked on farms in Llanfabon, Glamorgan, before her marriage, and I think your suggestion of seasonal or farm work by her may well have solved the mystery. It was Mary [nee DEERE] who was my own relative, and she was a Glamorgan girl like myself. They were tough old birds in those days, but I don't like to think of her heavily pregnant and with a toddler in tow, toiling in the fields. I have sent off an enquiry to Wellington Primary School to see if they hae any record of th older children, who probably attended there. I will suggest to my cousin that he obtains a copy birth certificate for the child born in 1917, this could solve it once and for all. Might I add that I love Herefordshire, having visisted on a few occasions, stunning countryside. There was another member of the family who lived there for a time in the 1800s but I will enquire about him separately. Thanks again, WENDY

Dear Polly, Yes we thought it was strange. The man in question, JOHN HUGHES, was a coal miner in Glamorgan before moving to Wellington. From the reply to my previous enquiry on the ilst he was a coal miner at the birth of his daugher in 1917, Wellington, and a farmer on the birth certificate of his next child, Rowland, born Wellington 1921. 2. Annie May [HUGHES] NIXON born Wellington, Hereford, 1916 Father’s occupation, coal miner. Died at Basingstoke 24 Dec. 1966 3. Rowland John HUGHES, born Wellington, Hereford, 1921 Father’s occupation, a farmer. [I suspect farm worker] Taken prisoner of war and died from injuries aged 22 in March 1945. No known grave, memorial plaque in Holland John came from a rural background on Anglesey and must have given up mining when he moved to Wellington. The family's first language was [and stil is] Welsh but they were bilingual. They had two other children who were not born in Herefordshire. Thanks very much for the reply, it is a great help and I think confirms that he had given up coal mining. Best regards, WENDY

Could anyone give me the name and location of any coal mines in the Wellington area 1920s? Thanks, WENDYY

The following appeared at the beginning of the Register of Baptisms and Burials 1795-1812 for Walford parish (microfilm MX 250 at Hereford Archives). State of the population of this parish in 1801 Taken by order of Parliament Inhabited houses 152 Uninhabited Houses 5 Persons employ'd in Agriculture 403 Persons employ'd in Trade 21 Of no occupation (including children) 304 Total if persons in p[ar]ish 728 Males 382 Females 346 Children 258 A.H. Beeston Minister At a similar census taken in 1811 the Numbers were in Walford Males 425 Females 463 Total 888 in Walford N.B. The total No. in Ruerdean was 732 -- Best regards, Linda Hansen Researching GOMERY/GOMORY/GOMORI and GUMERY/GUMMERE/GUMMERY worldwide. GOMERY One-Name Study (GOONS #3034) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gomery/

The following letter was tucked inside the front of the Walford parish Register of Baptisms and Burials 1795-1812 90 Burnell Avenue Welling Kent 21 Oct '24 Rev. R.D.R. GREENE "The Vicarage" Walford-on-Wye Ross Dear Sir, I beg to acknowledge your letter of 18th. The Selina THORNEY mentioned therein must be a member of another branch of our family. My grandfather, grandmother, mother and second Brother are all buried in your Churchyard. I am the eldest son of George and Sophia THORNEY born at Sharman in your parish in the year 1854 or 5. I believe the first is correct but am not sure. The property then owned by my Father is now owned by Eyre COLLINS of Whittle, in your parish. It is 50 years since I was at my birthplace. I have lost all touch and nearly all remembrance of the locality. I may add that Sharman is about 1/2 way between Coulton and Owlhill. I cannot think of anything else that would be likely to help. I am Rev Sir Yours Ob[edient]ly C THORNEY Born 16 June 1854-5 Charles THORNEY -------------------------------------------------------- According to the Walford baptisms Charles THORNEY was baptised 23 Sep 1855 son of George and Sophia THORNEY, Farmer of Sharmans Lane, Walford. NOTE:- Whittle = Wythall, owned by the COLLINS family. Coulton = Coughton Owlhill = Howle Hill -- Best regards, Linda Hansen Researching GOMERY/GOMORY/GOMORI and GUMERY/GUMMERE/GUMMERY worldwide. GOMERY One-Name Study (GOONS #3034) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gomery/

Hi Sorry I can't help you . Vicki tucker -------------------------------------------------- From: <BuddugH@aol.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:53 PM To: <ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com> Subject: [HEF] Thomas A Barton/Catherine Milbourne > Hi . > Amongst my ancestros I have a Thomas A Barton and Catherine Milburn who > married in the mid 1400's .Catherine came form Tillington and I have her > line > going back quite a bit .However,Thomas Barton came from Weobly , I have > nothing > on him .Anyone with any knowledge of the Barton clan around the years > mentioned . Any information will be appreciated . > regards, > Buddug Hollett > > > > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

o.k thanks Buddug Hollett

Hi . Amongst my ancestros I have a Thomas A Barton and Catherine Milburn who married in the mid 1400's .Catherine came form Tillington and I have her line going back quite a bit .However,Thomas Barton came from Weobly , I have nothing on him .Anyone with any knowledge of the Barton clan around the years mentioned . Any information will be appreciated . regards, Buddug Hollett

I will check Pencombe to see if we have shoemaker wills. I do have a relative whose family were shoemakers for several generations in Poughill, Devon. In the later 1850s he an his family went to New Zealand for the gold mining around Queenstown and then moved on to the Gold Country of California where they were based in Nevada City. They did very well as miners always need new shoes and shoe repairs. A good trade to be in. Barbara Haner > 1. Shoemakers of Ewyas Harold (M Robinson)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:34:48 +1000> From: "M Robinson" <bamp@webone.com.au>> Subject: [HEF] Shoemakers of Ewyas Harold> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <00a601c8ce12$a70931f0$2953fea9@user45st810jtn>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > In studying the wills of five shoemakers of Ewyas Harold who died between 1685 and 1810, I was rather surprised to see how well off they seemed to be. The inventories listed platters, plates, porringers and pewter tankards, tablecloths and table napkins, numerous cooking vessels, cupboards, and feather beds, as well as tools of trade, and for some a few farm animals.> > I was wondering if these shoemakers had wills because they were unusually well off, or whether shoemakers in those times enjoyed a relatively high status in a village. Has anyone else looked at shoemakers in 18th century?> > Maureen Robinson.> > ------------------------------> > To contact the ENG-HEREFORD list administrator, send an email to> ENG-HEREFORD-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the ENG-HEREFORD mailing list, send an email to ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of ENG-HEREFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 139> ********************************************

In studying the wills of five shoemakers of Ewyas Harold who died between 1685 and 1810, I was rather surprised to see how well off they seemed to be. The inventories listed platters, plates, porringers and pewter tankards, tablecloths and table napkins, numerous cooking vessels, cupboards, and feather beds, as well as tools of trade, and for some a few farm animals. I was wondering if these shoemakers had wills because they were unusually well off, or whether shoemakers in those times enjoyed a relatively high status in a village. Has anyone else looked at shoemakers in 18th century? Maureen Robinson.

Y'all - if you have access to Ancestry.com (most libraries have free access), take a look at the above. On the page - "Statement of the names & addresses of all the relatives of the above-named deceased soldier" It lists all living relatives down to nephews & nieces, which gave unknown relatives of my uncle's brother who died in 1918. The records also includes a letter from his mother-in-law and the telegrams related to his death in Rouen. In another record (not deceased) I found my grt. uncle had listed his only son as his next of kin, because his wife had been committed to a mental institution - I already about my grt. aunt, but their son was not listed in the 1901 census. So I now have another 2nd cousin, and two 3rd cousins (still tracking those two down). Regards - Terry ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The above married 17 mar 1816 St Clement, Worcester, England. Where do I go to try and find their birth records? If any exist The Farlou is also spelt as Farlow on some documents Lee Smith - Australia

Hi Lee Civil Registration did not begin in England and Wales until 1 Jul 1837, so you will not be able to find a birth record for this couple. However prior to the introduction of civil registration, most vital events were recorded in parish registers of baptisms, marriages (as you have already found) and burials. So if your couple were still alive in 1841, or 1851 or later, you need to check the census to see if you can find out where they *claim* to have been born, and then start checking the parish registers for their baptisms. HTH Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Smith" <Lee.Smith@oss.wa.gov.au> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:32 AM Subject: [HEF] Thomas Smith and Emma Farlou The above married 17 mar 1816 St Clement, Worcester, England. Where do I go to try and find their birth records? If any exist The Farlou is also spelt as Farlow on some documents Lee Smith - Australia ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pauline I would be very pleased if I could get a copy of the Hereford Photographic Societies picture which includes Alfred Watkins. As well as looking after the Forest of Dean Family History Web site I also do the same for the Watkins Family History Society <http://www.watkinsfhs.net/ > and the picture would make a nice addition to our collection. There is a very interesting article on Alfred Watkins on the Hereford Web Pages. ALFRED WATKINS 1855-1935 Pioneer Photographer and Antiquarian http://www.herefordwebpages.co.uk/watkins.shtml Have a Good Day! Dave Watkins

G'day Pauline. Are you connected by any chance to Sir Thomas Robinson my grandmother was in service to the Robinson family ? Pothole ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Andersons" <keitha@ripnet.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: [HEF] Hereford Photographic Society > Whle going through some old photos today I came across a packet of stuff > dating back to the early 20th century taken in Hereford mostly of my > ancestors. One thing I came across was a photo from the Hereford Times > showing the Hereford Photographic Society on a visit to Hampton Court, > near Leominster in 1903 and I wondered if anybody was researching any of > these people. They are listed as Mr. Gus Edwards (furrier), Mr. W. > "Bogey" Williams (gunsmith), Mr. E.J. Paynter (Adams printers), Mr. W.E. > Haines (chemist, High Town), Mr. Quintin Miller (dentist), Mr. W.W.W. > Robinson (architect, King Street), Mr. A. Kast, Mr. Archie Slatter > (grocer), Mr. Johnny Marshall (organist and music shop), Mr George Davies > (draper, High Street), the Rev. Mr. McLauchlin, Mr. John H. Arkwright, Mr. > Alfred Watkins and Mr. W. Roberts (baker). > William Robinson and Archie Slatter are my relatives. From what I have > read Alfred Watkins was quite well known in Hereford at that time for his > photographic work and my cousin donated quite a bit about him to the > museum. John Arkwright appears to be well known as well. If anybody > would like a scan of the picture I would be happy to send it. > There is also a Tariff and Souvenir of the Green Dragon Hotel, Hereford > with a lot of advertising in it and there again I could scan the images. > There is no date, but I would think possibly 1920's. > Lastly, there is a picture of Archie Slatter with a John Parker sitting in > some old stocks. Does anybody have a connection to John Parker or know > where the stocks were and if they are still there? > I hope this isn't too off topic. > Pauline > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pothole, Nothing so grand. Walter William Robinson was born in 1849 in Malvern, Worcestershire and married Margaret Mary Garstone in Hereford. One of their daughters, Annie, married Archie Slatter in 1902. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Royston J Tranter" <pyewaket@westnet.com.au> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [HEF] Hereford Photographic Society > G'day Pauline. > > Are you connected by any chance to Sir Thomas Robinson > my grandmother was in service to the Robinson family ? > > Pothole > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Andersons" <keitha@ripnet.com> > To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:35 PM > Subject: [HEF] Hereford Photographic Society > > >> Whle going through some old photos today I came across a packet of stuff >> dating back to the early 20th century taken in Hereford mostly of my >> ancestors. One thing I came across was a photo from the Hereford Times >> showing the Hereford Photographic Society on a visit to Hampton Court, >> near Leominster in 1903 and I wondered if anybody was researching any of >> these people. They are listed as Mr. Gus Edwards (furrier), Mr. W. >> "Bogey" Williams (gunsmith), Mr. E.J. Paynter (Adams printers), Mr. W.E. >> Haines (chemist, High Town), Mr. Quintin Miller (dentist), Mr. W.W.W. >> Robinson (architect, King Street), Mr. A. Kast, Mr. Archie Slatter >> (grocer), Mr. Johnny Marshall (organist and music shop), Mr George Davies >> (draper, High Street), the Rev. Mr. McLauchlin, Mr. John H. Arkwright, >> Mr. >> Alfred Watkins and Mr. W. Roberts (baker). >> William Robinson and Archie Slatter are my relatives. From what I have >> read Alfred Watkins was quite well known in Hereford at that time for his >> photographic work and my cousin donated quite a bit about him to the >> museum. John Arkwright appears to be well known as well. If anybody >> would like a scan of the picture I would be happy to send it. >> There is also a Tariff and Souvenir of the Green Dragon Hotel, Hereford >> with a lot of advertising in it and there again I could scan the images. >> There is no date, but I would think possibly 1920's. >> Lastly, there is a picture of Archie Slatter with a John Parker sitting >> in >> some old stocks. Does anybody have a connection to John Parker or know >> where the stocks were and if they are still there? >> I hope this isn't too off topic. >> Pauline >> ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- >> A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Whle going through some old photos today I came across a packet of stuff dating back to the early 20th century taken in Hereford mostly of my ancestors. One thing I came across was a photo from the Hereford Times showing the Hereford Photographic Society on a visit to Hampton Court, near Leominster in 1903 and I wondered if anybody was researching any of these people. They are listed as Mr. Gus Edwards (furrier), Mr. W. "Bogey" Williams (gunsmith), Mr. E.J. Paynter (Adams printers), Mr. W.E. Haines (chemist, High Town), Mr. Quintin Miller (dentist), Mr. W.W.W. Robinson (architect, King Street), Mr. A. Kast, Mr. Archie Slatter (grocer), Mr. Johnny Marshall (organist and music shop), Mr George Davies (draper, High Street), the Rev. Mr. McLauchlin, Mr. John H. Arkwright, Mr. Alfred Watkins and Mr. W. Roberts (baker). William Robinson and Archie Slatter are my relatives. From what I have read Alfred Watkins was quite well known in Hereford at that time for his photographic work and my cousin donated quite a bit about him to the museum. John Arkwright appears to be well known as well. If anybody would like a scan of the picture I would be happy to send it. There is also a Tariff and Souvenir of the Green Dragon Hotel, Hereford with a lot of advertising in it and there again I could scan the images. There is no date, but I would think possibly 1920's. Lastly, there is a picture of Archie Slatter with a John Parker sitting in some old stocks. Does anybody have a connection to John Parker or know where the stocks were and if they are still there? I hope this isn't too off topic. Pauline

Lee Smith -----Original Message----- From: Lee Smith Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 10:38 AM To: 'eng-hereford@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: ENG-HEREFORD Digest, Vol 3, Issue 134 Hi all, Thanks for all your comments. My great great uncle George Sydney Smith was born 23/7/1875 in Victoria Australia, and states that his father, John Smith was 46yrs at that time and his birth place was Muchmarcle?( cant understand the writing) Herefordshire England. John Smith married a Jessie Erskine in New Zealand on 4/4/1865 and left New Zealand to immigrate to Australia. I have been able to locate Jessie's death certificate and states she was a widow at her death. John Smith has fallen off the planet. Their marriage cert does not name their parents. Lee Smith- Australia

Dear Srephen, Could you please forward the message below to the Herefordshire List? Many, many thanks. My computer (I live in New York City) will not send any e-mail that has the word "Rootsweb" in the address..I don't know why. Here's my message: To the Herefordshire List Members:. I'm researching PHILLIPS in Herefordshire in the 1600s and early 1700s, and I'd be grateful for any help. Mary Jane PHILLIPS----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J. Kelsey" <sjkelsey@msn.com> To: <eng-hereford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [HEF] FW: Welcome to the "ENG-HEREFORD" mailing list (Digestmode) > We would of course need more details than this. When and why did he > emigrate or did he? > Where to? > Did he marry in England? Were all his children born elsewhere or in > Engl? >>From what you Much Marcle is possible. > Steve Kelsey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lee Smith > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:07 PM > To: ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HEF] FW: Welcome to the "ENG-HEREFORD" mailing list (Digest > mode) > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to locate the birth details for a John Smith who was born > abt 1829 in Herefordshire. The birth certificates of his children, my > great great grandfather, state Herefordshire as his birth place. There > is a mention on his sons birth cert that John was born in ?march..... > Herefordshire. I cant make out the spelling. > > > > Hoping you can help me. > > > > thanks > > > Lee Smith > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hereford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > eng-hereford-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 7:03 AM > To: Lee Smith > Subject: Welcome to the "ENG-HEREFORD" mailing list (Digest mode) > > Welcome to the ENG-HEREFORD mailing list! > > > To post a message to this list, send your email to: > > ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com > > Please note that all messages posted to this mailing list are also > added to the list archives on RootsWeb.com > > General information about the mailing list, including links to the > list archives, can be found at: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-HEREFORD.html > > To unsubscribe from the list, including the list digest, please send > an email to ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject and the body of the email with no > additional text. > > Sincerely, > > The ENG-HEREFORD List Administrator > ENG-HEREFORD-admin@rootsweb.com > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HEREFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >