hi all I hope someone might be able to offer some answers to this problem.... My great grandmother was Daisy BEER (her married name), born in ross-on-Wye in 1897 (died 1978). I recently found her in the 1901 census as follows Frederick WILLIAM (S) (no s but may be an error) aged 29 born in Ross wife Sarah aged 28 (nee BULLOCK) bn in Ross Jack son aged 6 Daisy aged 4 I know that Daisy had a brother called Alan STEVENS (which i now assume to be a step brother). However I have just received some copies of certificates from a family member as follows Baptism of Daisy WILLIAMS born 27th March 1897, baptised 8th August 1903, parents Frederick and Sarah WILLIAMS. Also Daisy's marriage certificate 10th November 1918 in Newport, Monmouthshire Daisy STEPHENS father Frederick STEPHENS married Albert Henry BEER This has totally thrown me!! The family member said that there was confusion with the surname because Frederick had a stepfather and step brothers. Why would he change his surname (and his daughter's) after he'd married?? Where can i find an account of the name change?? And the difference in the STEPHENS/STEVENS surname. Could there be 2 Frederick's??? Any help will be greatly appreciated regards dave

Dear List I have been researching the GREENLY family of Titley and Staunton on Arrow for some time. I have the family well documented back to 1600 and almost enough to extend the tree back as far as 1400 but with many frustrating gaps. The GREENLY family has connections with many other families in the area and I have a collection of documents (leases, deeds, wills etc.) dating back to 1442 which I would be happy to share. As it is likely that these other families are also being researched, I would be very interested to hear from anyone looking at the following families - particularly if they have information from the 15th and 16th Centuries relating to the Staunton on Arrow area: PASSY (especially PASSY), HARLEY, BURCHER/BYRCHORE, CARPINTER, GODWYN/GODWIN, STAUNTON, STEDE/STEED, YAYDEN, WALSALL, BADLONDE/BADLAND, BYRD, FLETCHER, KYNNERSLEY, WODEHOUSE All are linked to the GREENLYS in some way. Most of the early information has been peiced together from wills and deeds so anything of this nature which might refer to the GREENLYS would be very appreciated. Even if you have no GREENLY information, please get in touch and I will pass on rlevant information in my possession. Thanks in advance. David Matthews

Further to my previous plea for help - I spent a profitable time yesterday on the 1901 and found several bits and pieces but the Matilda Care mystery continues. I am working from a photocopy of the original but for the sheer heck of it I tried to find Matilda on the 1901 site by asking for any female Cares born in Herefordshire - only one showed up and definitely not Matilda. I then managed to track down the Powell entry for St Margarets and there she was, large as life and definitely a Care born in Herefordshire. Strangely though the writing of the C of Care doesn't appear to match any other capital C's on the page - in fact it doesn't appear to be like any other letters at all, so I am totally stumped until I manage to trace her marriage. I shall plod on Mandy in Windermere

Evening List I was wondering whether anyone on the list had access to the PRs of St Margaret's (village of). I have recently received the 1901 image (not transcript) which contains the family of William Powell who was living at Crossway, St Margarets. With him were his wife, son, 2 daughters and 2 grandchildren. One of the daughters, Mary Matilda (born 1876 in Peterchurch), is now married and her name appears to be Care - the grandchildren (aged 5 and 3 months) are hers. Out of sheer curiosity I checked against the 1881 for Cares but didn't find any entries so I wondered whether the census could have been taken with the householder "saying" who was in the house and the enumerator writing down as spoken, in which case, the surname could read Kerr. I know its a long shot but I wondered whether her marriage might show up in St Margarets and confirm one way or the other. Mandy in Windermere

Hello again Mal The full LAWFORD family from the 1851 is as already notified to you by Gerald COOKE. They were living at Blackmarston, Hereford, and both George's (father and son) are shown as Sawyers. All family members were born in HEF St Martins. Regards Gordon (Glad to be able to help at last!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael and Vicky" <mharding@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 1:05 AM Subject: [HEF] LAWFORD look up > Could SKS look up any LAWFORD's in 1851 census in Hereford town itself. > It appears that my Gt Gt Aunty Edith BEVAN married Andrew LAWFORD in 1865 > the census entry would look like this.. I think : > > George LAWFORD Head > Sarah ?LAWFORD wife > Andrew LAWFORD son born 1844 so would be 7yrs old > > Andrew and Edith had a son George in 1867 and an Andrew in 1870 > Is there any body out there connected to these people? > thank you very much > Regards Vicky HARDING New Zealand. > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Chris wrote :- > If any one is looking through the parish records for Walford, >can you >please check this out for me. She was born June 13, 1897. > Chris - Mississauga - Canada Hello Chris The Herefordshire Records Office holds Walford Baptism registers only to 1871, the inference being that all after that date are still at the church. Regards Gordon Evans Herefordshire UK

Dear Gordon, Thanks for checking and observation on this. Regards - Chris

Thank you but it seems the records at EH for the period are incomplete, a professional researcher has tried HRO for me without success. I know who were the parents of Mary, it is Hugh who is the mystery. They were possibly first cousins but that is an inspired guess not a fact. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Janice Jones <jjones@autobahn.mb.ca> To: ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 10 September 2002 21:10 Subject: [HEF] Re:Re:My Phillips Family >Bryan > >I suggest if you send for the Marriage Record from Ewyas Harold (from the Hereford Records Office) - the record should give you at least Hugh's father's name, and Mary's father, and possibly where they resided at that time and their occupations.. > >Hope that helps. > >Janice >Canada > > >==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== >. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Bryan, Contrary to what Janice said, no pre-1837 marriages give the father's name, as I'm sure you'll know. However, a marriage of this date will say what parish he was of. If it was a parish different from that in which the marriage took place then that may be a clue to his parish of origin. However, it would certainly be worthwhile checking the baptism records of every adjoining parish as people then moved about far more than we today imagine. He might have originated only a mile away but in a totally different parish. Best wishes James

Thanks to those people who helped with the Old Gloucester Road problem!! seems obvious now. thanks phil for the Ross-on Wye link Regards Dave

Hi all One of my addresses transcribed from the 1901 census reads as Glost Road Old in Ross-on-Wye. I can't find it on streetmap so was wondering if anyone recognises it to be a transcript error?? Any help is greatly appreciated Regards Dave

Bryan I suggest if you send for the Marriage Record from Ewyas Harold (from the Hereford Records Office) - the record should give you at least Hugh's father's name, and Mary's father, and possibly where they resided at that time and their occupations.. Hope that helps. Janice Canada

Is anyone researching early Phillips families in Herefordshire? By 1726, mine were living in Virginia, but an old account says they came from Herefordshire. Thank you. Mary Jane Phillips-Matz

They seem to own half the county !! Which makes genealogy harder not easier...especially when they marry their name-sakes.... I hav had the same brick-wall for 3 years... I need to know anything that happened to Hugh Phillips before Feb. 1768 when he appeared at Ewyas Harold church (having just beamed down from an alien space-ship for all I know ) walked to the altar and married his girl-bride Mary Phillips from Llandisilio . I know all about what he did after that - mainly in Grosmont - but where he came from ,how and when, is a total mystery. I am his direct descendent and would like to know about the alien planet ;-)) Is anyone regularly in the RO at Aberystwyth? Bryan PHILLIPS - (in Brighton) -----Original Message----- From: Keith MERRICK <keith@merrick5191.fslife.co.uk> To: ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 09 September 2002 22:58 Subject: [HEF] My Phillips Family & parishes >there are a lot of Phillips in Herefordshire! if i can be of further help please get in contact, Keith. > > >==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== >. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

David, How about 'Old Gloucester Road' See http://www.wyenot.com/ross-on-wye/oldglosroad.htm for a view Phil Bufton Vice Chairman Herefordshire FHS www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs ----- Original Message ----- From: "David HALL" <dave@bishop69.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: [HEF] 1901 transcript problem > Hi all > One of my addresses transcribed from the 1901 census reads as Glost Road Old in Ross-on-Wye. I can't find it on streetmap so was wondering if anyone recognises it to be a transcript error?? > > Any help is greatly appreciated > Regards > Dave > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Mischa, as yet i have no record of members of my family emigrating to America, im still looking. I was told that some of them joined the Mormon church & went to live in Utah but i havent found out who. If you have mormon friends, try & get a copy of the church magazine called "ensign" in the march 1980 issue is an article called "the voyage of the Amazon" there is a reference to a Ishmael & Mary Phillips, i think he may have been a brother to 1 of my ancestors. Keith.

Hello Mary Jane in New York, Thankyou for getting in touch, i do not have much on the family its as follows, MARY JANE PHILLIPS (sound familiar!) born 1868, the riddle(a hamlet) the parish would be Eye. JAMES PHILLIPS father of above born Kings Pyon about 1838 married DINAH ? JOHN PHILLIPS father of above born Pembridge, about 1794 married BEATRICE/BEATRIX DAVIES 30 dec 1834 Kings Pyon his parents names were WILLIAM&ANN DAVIES no details on them yet Pembridge & Kings pyon are villages & parishes there are a lot of Phillips in Herefordshire! if i can be of further help please get in contact, Keith.

Family history can be very self absorbing but like anything else it should be kept in perspective. Others don't always recognise our objectives. Patience is needed with so many aspects of this study. Twenty years ago I interrupted the daily routine of a vicar at Linton, Heref, to ask for some information. He was obviously very busy, bustling in and out of rooms as though preparing for a Visitation. My 3 year old daughter and I waited some little time before he could attend to my inquiry. At first he said no, he had no registers or anything to guide my search. We chatted a few moments and as he came to realise we had travelled half way round the world to visit the little village, a light seemed to come on. He clicked his fingers and said he recalled a small cardboard box. A short pause - and he reappeared triumphant with the box. Inside, pencilled on small cards were the names of my ggg grandparents and their children and details of their baptism. I suppose I became quite em! otional and just wanted to sit their reading these cards. After a while he quietly interrupted my musings to say he needed the box back as he had to lock up and leave. I still have my handwritten notes, and often think of the courtesy that vicar displayed. Ian patch4@hotkey.net.au

>Dear Deb, I often look for your GOODE 's for you.I am sure I saw one when I had the 1871 , 1861,1851 census but I have given them back so can't do a look up for you, but there were a few in Abergavenny area which is not far from where you are looking and some have HERE connections. 1871 Castle St ,Abergavenny :Henry GOODE lodger 26 Plasterer journeyman St Mooks GLOS? 1871 Abergavenny Susan GOODE servant U 23 Housemaid Breconchire, Crickhowell 1871 Merthyr Rd Abergavenny; Thomas GOODE head 82 Super in Excise Off Herefordshire Elizabeth GOODE wife? 24 Herefordshire ( yes I am sure it said wife ) Hope this helps Regards Vicky HARDING nee EVANS from Abergavenny but in New Zealand . >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:46:37 +0100 >From: "Deb Preen" <debpreen@blueyonder.co.uk> >To: ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HEF] 1891 census lookup request please- surname GOODE >Could someone with access to the 1891 census lookup GOODE, address >Dinedor Hill, Bullinham Louis? Any information would be gratefully >received. Thank you in advance.Deborah

Hi The 1901 Census has given me a new lead to the birth of James HODGES in Hereford. Is this family of interest to anyone on the list? Descendants of Samuel HODGES: Samuel HODGES Sp: UNKNOWN James HODGES (b.Abt 1845-Hereford) Sp: Ellen FRENCH (c.26 Sep 1846-Leonard Stanley Gloucestershire; m.21 Oct 1866) Henry HODGES (b.Abt 1887-Newport Monmouthshire) Regards Maurice Keith French Huntly New Zealand maurice.french@xtra.co.nz