HI I can't help with your question but wondered if you have any George Griffiths who either married or had an how shall we say association with a Catherine ( Kate) Hughes he would have been born around 1860 1870 ish TIA Nik Hereford Names: Williams Davies Hughes Morris Harper www.fulstow.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Griffiths" <pam.griff1@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 08 October 2002 17:36 Subject: [HEF] GRIFFITHS > Can anyone please help me to find my Griffiths family in 1891? > > I believe they may have been in Abergavenny then. They are: > John Griffiths, born about 1860 at Kingsland, Hereford > Mary, wife, born about 1865 in Ebbw Vale > Ernest John Griffiths, son, born about 1888 at Abergavenny. > > John was a railway labourer in 1881, and may have worked on the railways at Abergavenny. > > Thanks, > Pam. > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Can anyone please help me to find my Griffiths family in 1891? I believe they may have been in Abergavenny then. They are: John Griffiths, born about 1860 at Kingsland, Hereford Mary, wife, born about 1865 in Ebbw Vale Ernest John Griffiths, son, born about 1888 at Abergavenny. John was a railway labourer in 1881, and may have worked on the railways at Abergavenny. Thanks, Pam.

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Dear Lister, I can't answer your question directly, but I have an indirect connection with William Phillips, shoemaker, Bye St., Hfd City (1851 Census) who m. Elizabeth GRAINGER in 1818. Happy to share info if you think there's any link to your research. Bert Pemberton in Blackpool, Lancs. >From: "James Evans" <Blorenge@btopenworld.com> >To: ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HEF] Lydia Phillips >Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 16:39:08 +0100 > >Dear List, > >Could someone please tell me if there is a Lydia Phillips anywhere on the >1851 census index for Herefordshire? > >Best wishes >James > > >==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== >. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Dear List, Can anyon help me with my three requests concerning the PEARSON family? #1 Can some one look up the 1851 census for Stoke Lacy. I am looking for the DAVI(E)S family. James Davis married to Hannah Pearson. They were there at the time of Hannah's father's death in June 1851. His name James Pearson. It says both of Bromyard in the burial notice but I know James was in Stoke Lacy in the 1851 census. I didn't know he had a daughter Hannah when I ordered the census film from the LDS centre and didn't know of the Davis name in the family tree. I would really appreciate a listing of the family dynamics and wondered if she was born in Yorkshire like her brothers. #2 Does anyone know of a marriage for CLARA AUGUSTA PEARSON, born April 10, 1862 in Mansell Gamage, Herefordshire? She would be the granddaughter of the above James Pearson.I couldn't find her on the rootsweb BMD website. #3 Does anybody know anything about brothers Martin and Percy Pearson who owned "The Cattle Market Hotel" in Hereford in 1832? I belive their father was Richard Martin Pearson. I would be so grateful if somebody could help on any of these issues. Val

Seeking SMITH Baptisms, Marriages & Burials Llanveynoe and Crasswall, Hfd Generally they were farming at Olchon Court & Cwm Steppes, Crasswall and Triloch-ddu Farm, Llanveynoe. between 1800 & 1900, and part of the family moved to Cwmyoy, Mon. Does anyone recognise them? Can someone tell me if there are any indexes for these parishes available please? Kind Regards...Hazel

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Hello James, There's 2. Chris PHILLIPS Lydia 51 Clehonger 1977 131b PHILLIPS Lydia 6M Newent 1960 142a --- James Evans <Blorenge@btopenworld.com> wrote: > Dear List, > > Could someone please tell me if there is a Lydia > Phillips anywhere on the 1851 census index for > Herefordshire? > > Best wishes > James > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

Hello James, Would either of these fit the bill. If yes, let me know off list which one and I send you the rest on details. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Evans" <Blorenge@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: [HEF] Lydia Phillips > Dear List, > > Could someone please tell me if there is a Lydia Phillips anywhere on the 1851 census index for Herefordshire? > > Best wishes > James

I am interested in hearing from any person who has links with the BALLINGER family of WHITCHURCH / SYMONDS YAT Herefordshire Adrian

Dear List, Could someone please tell me if there is a Lydia Phillips anywhere on the 1851 census index for Herefordshire? Best wishes James

A very good friend of mine in England came up with this translation. I believe the stone is authentic: Renee, I suspect the "experts" were American speakers not English ones :-) Points:   Menage is not many . It is (still in modern french)  the household. (Menage a trois eg. ) She is talking about the people in the outfit who came off the ship  together with 24 indians. fain means reluctant surely? Try this. Is there a date? Was this the Roanoke colony in Va.? I thought that nothing had been found there? It's a good step from Hereford mind ;-)) Bryan Dad, soon after you set off for England,we moved here. It has been only misery and fighting for two years now. In less than two years after your departure more than half  had died of  disease. You will remember that there  were twenty-four indians together with our group from the ship. Soon , the indians became  frightened that their gods would punish  them ( for befriending the white heathens maybe ?) and deserted us would you believe? But they then  decided to appease their gods by returning and  killing us . They murdered all but eleven of us including my child Ananias. Grief stricken though we were we survivors gave them all a decent burial on a hill top four miles east along the river from here. We inscribed all their names on a stone and I will leave this message with it for you. I have bribed an indian with the promise of a huge reward to show you this message .... Original text: "Father soone After yov goe for Englande we cam hither/ onlie misarie & > warre-tow yeare/ Above halfe DeaDe ere tow yeere moore from sickenes > beine > fovre & twentie/ salvage with menage of shipp vnto vs/ smal space of > time > they affrite of revenge rann al awaye/ wee bleeve yt nott you/ soone > after > ye salvages faine spirts angrie/ suddiane mvrther al save leaven/ mine > childe-ananias to slaine wth mvch misarie-/bvrie al neere fovre myles > easte > this river vppon smal hil/ names writ al ther on rocke/pvtt this ther > alsoe/ > salvage shew this vnto yov & hither wee promise yov to give greate > plentie > presents E W D > > The bars in the text represent conjectural sen-tence divisions.

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Hello can anyone please tell me if there is a 1851 census available for Herefordshire to buy or someone to look up a name for me? Thankyou In case there is I am looking for William LONG born c1806 his occ should be Colt breaker. He may be in the Aston Ingham area if not then he has gone forever. his was not in the 1851 census with his wife Caroline who was living in Oxenhall in Glos at the time and not in the 1851 Glos census as Caroline was born in Aston Ingham I thought maybe he was working over the border somewhere. I know clutching straws! But he was alive as he fathered a child in 1853. Crossing my figures some one can help. Jill Morley (nee ARNOLD) in South Australia. Email: morley@yp-connect.net My ARNOLD family (of Dorset and Tasmania) web page: http://www.geocities.com/jmorleyau/Arnold.htm My DEAN family (of Buckinghamshire and Queensland) web page: http://www.geocities.com/jmorleyau/Dean.htm My LONG family (of Gloucestershire and Queensland) web page: http://www.geocities.com/jmorleyau/Long.htm

Hello James, Could this be them in 1881 Chris Dwelling: Lane Farm Census Place: Sutton, Hereford, England Source: FHL Film 1341624 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2592 Folio 68 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Richard PHILLIPS M 70 M Plymouth (Sutton St Michael), Devon, England Rel: Head Occ: Ag Lab Elizabeth PHILLIPS M 68 F City, Hereford, England Rel: Wife Emma CONSTABLE M 33 F Sutton, Hereford, England Rel: Daur Edwin PHILLIPS U 22 M Sutton, Hereford, England Rel: Son Occ: Shoemaker Thomas PHILLIPS 14 M Sutton, Hereford, England Rel: Grandson Occ: Schollar --- James Evans <Blorenge@btopenworld.com> wrote: > Dear List, > > My ancestor Richard Phillips (of Marden) was married > to Elizabeth DUGGON in Marden parish church in 1833. > On the 1851 census of Marden, she is shown as aged > 38 and was said to have been born in the parish of > St. Peter in Hereford City. Does anyone have any > record of her baptism? She might still have been > alive at the time of the 1881 census. Could anyone > who has the 1881 census index tell me if Elizabeth > Phillips is to be found on it? She would have been > aged about 68 and probably living in the Marden > area. What birthplace is given for her in 1881? Her > husband Richard Phillips was born in Marden in about > 1811 so would have been aged about 70 in 1881 if > still alive. Thanks in advance! > > Best wishes > James Phillips-Evans > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

Jill, No William LONG aged between 42 and 49 appears on the HEF FHSoc 1851 census index. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&J Morley" <morley@yp-connect.net> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 10:16 PM Subject: [HEF] 1851 census > Hello can anyone please tell me if there is a 1851 census available for > Herefordshire to buy or someone to look up a name for me? > Thankyou > > In case there is I am looking for William LONG born c1806 his occ should be > Colt breaker. He may be in the Aston Ingham area if not then he has gone > forever. > his was not in the 1851 census with his wife Caroline who was living in > Oxenhall in Glos at the time and not in the 1851 Glos census as Caroline was > born in Aston Ingham I thought maybe he was working over the border > somewhere. > I know clutching straws! > But he was alive as he fathered a child in 1853.

Hazel, First the 1851 HEF FHSoc census index has: Surname Fore Name Age Parish Piece Folio District SMITH ann 03 Llanveynoe 1978 671b Hereford SMITH Vere 07W Llanveynoe 1978 671b Hereford SMITH John 09 Llanveynoe 1978 671b Hereford SMITH James 34 Llanveynoe 1978 671b Hereford SMITH Pheobe 35 Llanveynoe 1978 671b Hereford So Vere did just make it. In 1891 as a follow up to the 18881 information you supplied Surname Christian Name Age Parish Born County Parish Found Piece No Folio SMITH VEAR 5 CRASWALL HEF CRASWALL RG12/2066/2 78B SMITH JAMES 10 CRASWALL HEF CRASWALL RG12/2066/2 78B SMITH ALFRED 12 CRASWALL HEF CRASWALL RG12/2066/2 78B SMITH ELIZABETH 33 CRASWALL HEF CRASWALL RG12/2066/2 78B SMITH VEAR? 40 LLANVEYNOE HEF CRASWALL RG12/2066/2 78B Also in 1891 there is another Vere SMITH aged 7 Surname Christian Name Age Parish Born County Parish Found Piece No Folio SMITH MARY JANE 6 LLANVEYNOE HEF LLANVEYNOE RG12/2066/2 55A SMITH VERE 7 LLANVEYNOE HEF LLANVEYNOE RG12/2066/2 55A SMITH PHOEBE 7 LLANVEYNOE HEF LLANVEYNOE RG12/2066/2 55A SMITH BLANCH 8 LLANVEYNOE HEF LLANVEYNOE RG12/2066/2 55A SMITH JAMES 9 LLANVEYNOE HEF LLANVEYNOE RG12/2066/2 55A SMITH JOHN 10 LLANVEYNOE HEF LLANVEYNOE RG12/2066/2 55A SMITH MARY 39 LLANVEYNOE HEF LLANVEYNOE RG12/2066/2 55A SMITH JAMES 37 LLANVEYNOE HEF LLANVEYNOE RG12/2066/2 55A Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: <SWLady123@aol.com> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: [HEF] SMITH-Crasswell 1891 Look-up please > I was hoping there may be a very kind person who may look up this family in > 1891 census please. Apparently there were at least 8 children, so we may > find the other 6. > > Also, without sounding too greedy, The SMITH family at Llanveynoe, Hereford, > in 1851 would also be very useful please. Vear SMITH may have just made it > on to 1851 census. A long line of Vear, so maybe the Father will also be > Vear. > > Best Wishes....Hazel

Dear List, My ancestor Richard Phillips (of Marden) was married to Elizabeth DUGGON in Marden parish church in 1833. On the 1851 census of Marden, she is shown as aged 38 and was said to have been born in the parish of St. Peter in Hereford City. Does anyone have any record of her baptism? She might still have been alive at the time of the 1881 census. Could anyone who has the 1881 census index tell me if Elizabeth Phillips is to be found on it? She would have been aged about 68 and probably living in the Marden area. What birthplace is given for her in 1881? Her husband Richard Phillips was born in Marden in about 1811 so would have been aged about 70 in 1881 if still alive. Thanks in advance! Best wishes James Phillips-Evans

You are very kind on this list. I have one more query please. I have John SMITH b. 1842 Llanveynoe appearing on 1851. Then he disappears, is not on 1881 census, but I have a Mary SMITH (widow) b. 1840. Do you have 1861 or 1871 census please, to see if they appear together. Many thanks....Hazel