Re-posting my interests. Edward Yarranton (Yarrington) b 1776 Withington Edward Yarrington b. 1735 Pudlestone, m. 1775 Withington, d. poss. Humber - Spouse Elizabeth South ?? John Yarranton b. 1707 Grendon Bishop, m. 1735 Pudlestone, d. Poss 1753 Burford Salop - Spouse Margaret James ?? Jon Yarranton b. Abt. 1669 Grendon Bishop, m. Abt 1695 Grendon Bishop, d Abt 1712 Grendon Bishop - Spouse Esther ?? John Errington b ??, m. ??, d. 1710 Grendon Bishop - Spouse Joyce ?? Mick Gurling Proud to be working on the FREECEN Project see our website at http://freecen.rootsweb.com All E-Mail sent is scanned for viruses before sending.

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I am looking for a photograph or drawing or any other information of Wilmastone Cottage, Peterchurch, (there is a mention on the SMR record 5105)if anyone can help I would be very grateful. My great-grandparents lived there - late 1800's up to late 1930's? I have them on the 1901 census. Joseph J Pearce and Mary A Barnes married in June 1894. my GGF was a stockman. In the churchyard at Peterchurch the gravestone says Joseph James Pearce late of Wilmastone Estate.(1936) I have found Joseph's family on the 1881 Census at Wilmastone but cannot find any more details of Mary A Barnes or family, so not sure which district she came from. Can anyone help? Val.

I hope it is OK to discuss this on the list but we really would like other peoples opinion. We have Generations but it has ceased production we hear - bought out- and there will be no more support or updates. We have tried Family Tree Maker but preferred Generations. What to go to next? Does anyone have experience of Custodian ?- we like the look of it as it seems good for more complex information but it is expensive. It also seems to link into that marvellous 1901 Census data extractor site www.leedsindexers.co.uk <www.leedsindexers.co.uk> Sandra

Hi I'm researching the Perkins family that lived in Hereford from about 1848 to 1900. My research goes from my Frank Perkins born in Edgar Street, Hereford in1881 was the son of John Perkins (c 1848) born in Bodenham, Hereford and Harriet Tyler b.1875 in Yarkhill, Hereford. They had several children, George b 1876, Edith b 1877, Chas Jno b. 1879 and Jack born after Frank (Jack married a French lady called Marie) Is anyone else researching this family? I know Jack's son was into family history but the family has lost touch with him. Look forward to hearing from anyone with information. Sue Perkins Picton, New Zealand

Dear List, Having posted my recent enquiry as to family tree software with excellent charting capability to more than one list, I was rather inundated with replies. A huge thank you to all who took the trouble to respond. You certainly speak with one voice. There is no doubt that Family Tree Maker is the out and out favourite being recommended by over 90% of respondents - almost unanimous! In second place was Genopro Gold which apparently also has an excellent graphical interface. The basic version of the program can be downloaded at: http://www.genopro.com/ As its my birthday shortly, I now know what to ask for. Thank you. David M in Hull, UK

Hi Listers, I wonder if anyone can help me with my Jones family as there appear to be a number of people researching various Jones's. maybe someone has come across my family. WILLIAM JONES was born c 1828/8 in Marden or Yarkhill, son of WILLIAM and ELLEN JONES ( no baptism found c 1828/9). He married MARY CATHERINE HANCON on 7 Sep 1854 at All Saints, Hereford. William is described as a coachbuilder. Their first child ANNIE JONES was born at Widemarsh Gate, Hereford and baptised on 17 June 1855 at All Saints, Hereford. Their second child SUSAN ELLEN JONES was born at Widemarsh Gate, Hereford and baptised 26 June 1857 at St John Baptist, Hereford. Thier third child WILLIAM JONES was born at Ivy Cottage, St Johns, Hereford and baptised 30 July 1856 at St John Baptist, Hereford. William Jones the father is described as a Journeyman coachbuilder and the birth was registered by an Ann Collier, occupier of Ivy Cottage and the mother's name is given as Kate Jones formerly Hancon. Between 1856 - 1869 the family disappear, probably because William moved around for his work and I would love to hear if anyone has found them on the 1861 census. William Jones would be a coach builder, Mary Catherine his wife was sometimes called Catherine Mary or Kate, and their known children were Annie born 1855, William (if he survived infancy) born 1856 and Susan Ellen born 1857 and any other children born after 1857. Mary Catherine Jones died in Cheetham, Manchester in 1869 and was brought back to All Saints, Hereford for burial. Her daughter Susan Ellen was living with her aunt Rebecca Rowe in Widemarsh Street, Hereford on the 1871 Census but I do not know what happened to William and the other children and where they were on the 1871 Census, has anyone seen them? So I would be grateful for any information about this family on the 1861 or 1871 Census. Ros Dunnico in wet and cloudy Leigh-on-Sea, Essex.

Thomas PRICE was a younger brother to my great-grandfather Charles. According to the VRI, Thomas was baptised at Pembridge on 8.4.l858, s/o Thomas and Mary PRICE. I have also found reference on the VRI to the baptism of a Margaret PRICE, d/o Thomas and Mary PRICE at Pembridge on 29.8.l858...only four months later. On future censuses I can find no mention of any young Thomas or Margaret so perhaps they died in infancy? If anyone happens to be searching the baptism register for Pembridge in the coming weeks, could I please ask you to check to see whether the above entries are likely to be for the same Thomas and Mary PRICE? Grateful thanks Diane Johansen

Chris In Outlook Express, go to Tools/Options/Security and untick the box "Do not allow attachments......". Remember to go back and tick it again afterwatds, though, just to be on the safe side. Regards Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Castell" <chriscastell@rogers.com> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:49 PM Subject: [HEF] Kinsey > Hi Viv, > > I'm so sorry but the attachments aren't coming through. The message I keep getting is ; > OE removed access to the following unsafe attachments in your mail ! > > Not sure what's going on. Thanks for trying. > > Regards - Chris > > > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

<DMatthewsathome@aol.com> wrote The program is easy to use but it won't > produce charts that show all the individuals with all the dates and sources > etc. The program is easy to use but it won't > produce charts that show all the individuals with all the dates and sources Hi David. There are only 3 programs that I know of that will show everybody in the file on one chart, Family Tree Maker, Genbox and GenoPro. MY preferred option is FTM. Kind regards, Ron O'Neill www.genealogyprinters.com

Thank you all for your help and time sorting out my little security problem. Now I know what OE is !!! 1851 details received and being digested. Thanks to all of you for your patience and guidance. Chris

Hi Viv, I'm so sorry but the attachments aren't coming through. The message I keep getting is ; OE removed access to the following unsafe attachments in your mail ! Not sure what's going on. Thanks for trying. Regards - Chris

I have been carrying out a one name study over the last two years and have been storing the information as a huge family tree chart rather than in traditional genealogy software (I am an architect with access to CAD software and huge plotters so these big charts were a relatively easy thing to do). Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) the tree is now so huge that it covers an entire wall. Nonetheless, I am very attached to having a comprehensive chart to look at - I find it much easier to keep track of so many individuals (nearly 1000) if I can see it in pictorial form. I have a copy of the Generations Grande Suite with Easytree and I have begun transferring my research into this form (not least so that it can be shared as GEDCOM and published on the net). The program is easy to use but it won't produce charts that show all the individuals with all the dates and sources etc. which is annoying when I can print at anything up to six feet across. Whilst realising that it may be frowned upon to discuss or appraise commercial products on the list, could I ask list members to share their experiences of genealogy software so I don't have to buy the entire shelf of programs to find the one with the best graphical output (off-list if appropriate). Many thanks, David Matthews

Hi Viv, Sorry I didn't get any message. Thanks for the try. Chris

I accidently deleted a letter this morning - I once came across a letter bank showing copies of letters sent to the rootsweb site. Does someone out there know the site I am talking about, if so tell me how to find it again please? Joan. Sydney. Australia.

Joseph Bowen PROSSER was a first cousin to my g.g.grandmother, Susannah PRICE. He was born in Weobley in l8l7, illeg. s/o Jane PROSSER (later ARCHER). He married Eliza JONES in Weobley in l840 and they had three known daughters: Ann, b. l84l/2 Hampton Bishop, Hef. Eliza, b. l843/4 Weobley, Hef. Thirza, b. l850 Weobley, Hef. I have found the family on the l85l Census living in Weobley where Joseph was a master shoemaker and Eliza a milliner/dressmaker. I would love to find Joseph and Eliza on the l84l Census - either at Weobley or Hampton Bishop. Otherwise, perhaps they are on the l86l or l87l Census still at Weobley?? Their daughter, Thirza, was known as "Mabel Thirza" and she emigrated to Australia.We know that Joseph Bowen PROSSER became a missionary although where and when we are unsure. If anyone can help us locate Joseph and Eliza on earlier or later censuses then that would be a wonderful help. Thank you Diane Johansen

Many thanks to all who responded. Following the first reply I received, I have now found Howton Grove Farm on the modern 1:50000 map. Incidentally, the person involved was a 'Richard COURTEEN'. I think he was born in Tyberton and married in Monnington-on-Wye in 1775. In the licence he is described as 'Timber merchant' but in the deed dated 1778 as 'Gentleman'. I don't know if this is the same person, but the surname is uncommon and he could well be. Any help would be appreciated. Michael -----Original Message----- From: philbufton [mailto:philbufton@whsmithnet.co.uk] Sent: 27 February 2003 00:13 To: Michael Williamson Cc: ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HEF] Hender Church Michael, that will probably be Kenderchurch Phil Bufton Vice Chairman Herefordshire FHS www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Williamson" <mijan@zetnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: [HEF] Hender Church > I have found in a deed reference to 'Howton Grove in the Parish of Hender > Church in the County of Hereford'. I cannot find Hender Church anywhere. Can > anyone help, please. > > Michael Williamson > mijan@zetnet.co.uk > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hallo Vicky, Apologies if I have sent you this before. Martha EMBRY Grainger was baptised at Hereford St Owen on 20 March 1783. Her parents were John Grainger (corn miller) and Joyce, nee Hiatt/Hyatt. Although she is not a direct ancestor, I would be glad if you would let me know if you are aware of any connection between the Embry and Grainger families. Kind regards, Bert Pemberton (HFHS 1838). >From: Michael & Vicky Harding <mharding@ihug.co.nz> >To: ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HEF] EMBREY >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:24:03 +1300 > >Dear Elizabeth, >Coincidentally I have just being writing to another EMBREY researcher who >was connected through my ADDISS's so had this all at hand . >Two ADDISS's married an EMBREY > > >1871 census for Kilpeck >Middle Ridgeway dwelling >Edwin ROWBREE head Mar 33 Farmer of 97 acres employing 1 man born >Orocp in 1891 census he called himself ROWBERRY >Harriot " wife Mar 30 farmers wife > Kentchurch >Charles EMBRY servant U 21 Farm bib? > Monmouthshire Grosmont > This above entry is very very clear and no doubt as to Charles spelling >of EMBRY > >1871 Vowchurch >Catharine EMBREY head widow 70 Preston on Wye > >1871Grosmont >William EMBRY head 73 retired farmer Garway > >1871 >Garway Hill area of Orcop just to show a family of HANBURY's with the >same names as the EMBREY family. >Elizabeth HANBURY head widow 41 farmer of 15 acres little Dewchurch >John " son U 17 Kilpeck >Charles son 11 scholar Garway >Emma daur 5 scholar St Weonards >Elizabeth daur 3 St >Weonards >George son 9 months >Orcop > > >Orcop >Church dwelling >Thos EMBREE head widow 55 labourer Much dewchurch >John EMBREE son U 25 lab Much Dewchurch >Maria JAY sister Widow 61 annuitant " >Thos JAY nephew U 25 Imbecile " >Augusta JAY niece 13 " > > >looking into 1851 notes I have >Treewadoe? Orcop >David EMBRY 40 farmer >and his family sorry didn't note them down. > >1851Village Vowchurch >William TURNER wid 67 deaf Glos Breakup? >Catherine EMBRY sister in law wid 50 Preston on Wye.** see her again in >1861 > >I have a few pages of census 's at home, I printed them off the film's I >hired at LDS . >I found another interesting one : >Orcop 1851 >Moat Mange? >Samuel EMBRY head 35 Much Dewchurch >Ann EMBRY wife 48 Orcop > >And on the IGI >Maria EMBREY married William JAY 14 Dec 1826 Dew Church which matches up >with the family I gave you above:. >Hope these will help fill a gap in your tree. >Regards Vicky in New Zealand. > > >==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== >. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________

Hello Michael According to my 1934 Kelly's Directory of Herefordshire HOWTON was an alternative name for KENDERCHURCH. It's shown on modern OS maps, about 2 miles north-west of Pontrilas, on the A465 road from Abergavenny to Hereford. Regards Gordon Evans Herefordshire UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Williamson" <mijan@zetnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-HEREFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: [HEF] Hender Church > I have found in a deed reference to 'Howton Grove in the Parish of Hender > Church in the County of Hereford'. I cannot find Hender Church anywhere. Can > anyone help, please. > > Michael Williamson > mijan@zetnet.co.uk > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >