My ancestor WILLIAM HARTLAND was christened at Bodenham 28 May 1749 and I have from IGI his parents as being JOHN HARTLAND and ELIZABETH. Again from IGI it seems likely that William has siblings ANNE 1737; MARY 1739; MATHEW 1742 and JOHN 1745 - all christened Bodenham, plus a possible THOMAS 1735 at Pencombe pre-dating the others. Marriages on IGI again include to ELIZ. JONES Hereford 1738 (discounted as obvious progeny in Hereford) and ELIZ. BYTHELL 1743 Wellington (geographically OK but seems too late to be likely though not of course impossible). This leaves the most likely candidate as ELIZABETH ROWBERRY married 1 Sep 1729 either at Wacton or Edvin Ralph. This could fit with the 1735 birth at Pencombe (only just across the Bromyard/Leominster road.). Any help would be appreciated especially from Polly, as my lady may be one of yours ? Thanks in anticipation JOHN RICHARDSON ex HEF now 31 years in NZ (fine and sunny).

Polly, Thanks for the offer. I realized most of the Bromyard records are already in the IGI and found no DREW there on familysearch.org....so I guess that is not the correct Linton. "never mind"....as the teenagers say here! Connie Nelmes Beattie Delaware US ----- Original Message ----- From: "Polly Rubery" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [HEF] Two Lintons in Herefordshire > Hi Connie > > Yes it seems that most people give Linton, rather than Bromyard as their > place of birth in the census. > > Who are you looking for and what date, and I will check the registers on > Monday. > Regards > Polly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cnb46" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:02 AM > Subject: Re: [HEF] Two Lintons in Herefordshire > > > I have some DREWS who on most censuses state they were born in Linton, > Herefordshire. Until today I assumed that was the Linton parish near > Ross, > since the father was born in Kempley, also near Ross. > Now I wonder about the Linton township that is part of Bromyard parish. > When asked for birthplace, would someone born there have said "Linton" or > "Bromyard"? Should I be looking at the Bromyard PR after having no luck > with the Linton near Ross PR? > Connie Beattie > Delaware, US > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Polly Rubery" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:08 AM > Subject: Re: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford > > >> Hi Stephen >> >> Leigh Sinton is part of the parish of Leigh, Worcestershire. >> >> There is a Linton parish near Ross in Herefordshire, and a township of >> Bromyard parish also called Linton. As L and S are easily mistaken for >> one >> another, this was why I wondered if it could have been Linton? >> Polly >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stephen Kelsey" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:35 PM >> Subject: RE: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford >> >> >> As to places, it could be Linton near Bromyard or also Leigh Sinton which >> could be in Cradley, Herefordshire; Mathon, Worcestershire, or Great >> Malvern, Worcestershire. >> Steve Kelsy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sylvia morgan [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:23 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford >> >> Hi Has anyone any information to give me of a Margaret JONES born 1818 at >> Sinton(Hereford) thank you Sylvia >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors >> at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta >> rgetid=5429 >> >> >> ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== >> . >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== >> . >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Kelly's directory of Herefordshire & Shropshire 1913. (mine on fiche). Peterchurch, Herefordshire. Includes : Carmichael Edgar H., farmer, New Enclosure. The Genuki Peterchurch pages gives the 1885 resident of New Enclosure. Cheers, Jo. Shropshire.

Hi John Just to add to the confusion the HFHS Marriage index also gives a marriage of a John HARTLAND to an Elizabeth HOPTON on 30 Jun 1741 at Ashperton! As to the others that you mention the JH who married E JONES is from Haywood and the marriage was by Licence; and the one who married E BYTHELL was from Hereford St John. The one who married E ROWBERRY was according to the Wacton PR from Thornbury, and it is possible that his bride was baptised there in 1700 and it is also interesting to note that her half brother Stephen married in Bodenham in 1741. However I have a possible death for this Elizabeth at Thornbury in 1714 and of course a birth in 1749 would be a little late for her. Nonetheless it does seem likely on geographical and date grounds at least that this is the marriage that you are seeking - better datewise would be the Elizabeth R baptised in 1705 at Bishops Frome - her parents had married at Pencombe, so not impossible that she would have found employment in that area. Tell me more about what you know of John & Elizabeth HARTLAND's children, and if you have found any wills for the family or know what their occupations were. That might give some more clues. Kind regards Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN RICHARDSON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: [HEF] HARTLAND My ancestor WILLIAM HARTLAND was christened at Bodenham 28 May 1749 and I have from IGI his parents as being JOHN HARTLAND and ELIZABETH. Again from IGI it seems likely that William has siblings ANNE 1737; MARY 1739; MATHEW 1742 and JOHN 1745 - all christened Bodenham, plus a possible THOMAS 1735 at Pencombe pre-dating the others. Marriages on IGI again include to ELIZ. JONES Hereford 1738 (discounted as obvious progeny in Hereford) and ELIZ. BYTHELL 1743 Wellington (geographically OK but seems too late to be likely though not of course impossible). This leaves the most likely candidate as ELIZABETH ROWBERRY married 1 Sep 1729 either at Wacton or Edvin Ralph. This could fit with the 1735 birth at Pencombe (only just across the Bromyard/Leominster road.). Any help would be appreciated especially from Polly, as my lady may be one of yours ? Thanks in anticipation JOHN RICHARDSON ex HEF now 31 years in NZ (fine and sunny). ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== . ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Hi Connie Yes it seems that most people give Linton, rather than Bromyard as their place of birth in the census. Who are you looking for and what date, and I will check the registers on Monday. Regards Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "cnb46" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [HEF] Two Lintons in Herefordshire I have some DREWS who on most censuses state they were born in Linton, Herefordshire. Until today I assumed that was the Linton parish near Ross, since the father was born in Kempley, also near Ross. Now I wonder about the Linton township that is part of Bromyard parish. When asked for birthplace, would someone born there have said "Linton" or "Bromyard"? Should I be looking at the Bromyard PR after having no luck with the Linton near Ross PR? Connie Beattie Delaware, US ----- Original Message ----- From: "Polly Rubery" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford > Hi Stephen > > Leigh Sinton is part of the parish of Leigh, Worcestershire. > > There is a Linton parish near Ross in Herefordshire, and a township of > Bromyard parish also called Linton. As L and S are easily mistaken for > one > another, this was why I wondered if it could have been Linton? > Polly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Kelsey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:35 PM > Subject: RE: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford > > > As to places, it could be Linton near Bromyard or also Leigh Sinton which > could be in Cradley, Herefordshire; Mathon, Worcestershire, or Great > Malvern, Worcestershire. > Steve Kelsy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sylvia morgan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford > > Hi Has anyone any information to give me of a Margaret JONES born 1818 at > Sinton(Hereford) thank you Sylvia > > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== . ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Does anyone have information on an Edgar Hynford Carmichael of Peterchurch Herfordshire. His wife was Eva May Connop. They had at least two boys John Harley Hyndford born April 25 1911 and emigrated to Canada in the 1930's. His birth certificate lists Edgar's occupation as of Independent means. John's passport issued in the 1930's lists him as a farmer. I do know he came to Canada on a sheep boat. There was a brother by the name of Paul. He lived at Kidderminster for years. Any information on the above mentioned people would be greatly appreciated as I am Johns son.

I have some DREWS who on most censuses state they were born in Linton, Herefordshire. Until today I assumed that was the Linton parish near Ross, since the father was born in Kempley, also near Ross. Now I wonder about the Linton township that is part of Bromyard parish. When asked for birthplace, would someone born there have said "Linton" or "Bromyard"? Should I be looking at the Bromyard PR after having no luck with the Linton near Ross PR? Connie Beattie Delaware, US ----- Original Message ----- From: "Polly Rubery" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford > Hi Stephen > > Leigh Sinton is part of the parish of Leigh, Worcestershire. > > There is a Linton parish near Ross in Herefordshire, and a township of > Bromyard parish also called Linton. As L and S are easily mistaken for > one > another, this was why I wondered if it could have been Linton? > Polly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Kelsey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:35 PM > Subject: RE: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford > > > As to places, it could be Linton near Bromyard or also Leigh Sinton which > could be in Cradley, Herefordshire; Mathon, Worcestershire, or Great > Malvern, Worcestershire. > Steve Kelsy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sylvia morgan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford > > Hi Has anyone any information to give me of a Margaret JONES born 1818 at > Sinton(Hereford) thank you Sylvia > > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Does someone do research at the library for information that one is seeking or is it possible to search an index of any kind? What kinds of information might we expect from the Hereford Journal? Thanks, Kathy

Hi List, A while back I posted asking about Coroner's reports, and some people contacted me off-list to ask if I'd pass on what I found out from Herefordshire archives. I received this reply on 30/03/2006: "Thank you for your enquiry received 24 March 2006. Unfortunately we have a large gap in our Coroner's Records from 1835-1929, where no records have survived. The only alternative is whether the inquest was reported in the local paper. We only hold The Hereford Journal until 1858 so you will need to contact The City Library who hold back issues of The Hereford Times. Contact details are as follows:- Broad Street Hereford HR4 9AU Tel: 01432 272456 Fax: 01432 359668 Email: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] " So, I'll email the City Library & cross my fingers... regards, Ellie

In Lascelles History & Topography of Herefordshire, 1858 no entry for William Powell as miller but son George still at Dog Inn. Not there in 1863 Post Office Directory for Herefordshire Hope this helps Barbara Haner

Hello Roy, Have had a look at Hereford Gaol on 1871 Herefordshire census.They only put initials for Christian Name and a prisoner number down. On RG 10 2698 ,their is a prisoner number 72,Sentence was under condition, who looks to have the initials JS age was ?2,he was a Dyer,place of birth looks to be Langmasden,Yorkshire, Best Wishes, Malcolm in Wales

Hello Roy, Not sure where Blackmarsden is so cannot try to help with that sorry.Their are 40 people with BURFORD surname on the 1851 Herefordshire Census index,done by Herefordshire Family History Society. Again off the 1851 index are the following SPIER names:- Ann SPIERS,10,Lyonshall,Ref 2492,348a Elizabeth ,10,Lyonshall,2492,348a Sarah Anne ,50,Lyonshall,2492,348a William ,12,Lyonshall,2492,348a Charles ,47,Upleadon,1960,244b Ester , 9,Upleadon,1960,244b Nancy ,53,Upleadon,1960,244b Elizabeth ,54,Dymock,1960,287b Richard ,31,Dymock,1960,287b Sarah E ,16,Kington,2492,278a Could not see any DRING or PARKER-DRING names on the index, Best Wishes, Malcolm Brinkworth

Hi Stephen Leigh Sinton is part of the parish of Leigh, Worcestershire. There is a Linton parish near Ross in Herefordshire, and a township of Bromyard parish also called Linton. As L and S are easily mistaken for one another, this was why I wondered if it could have been Linton? Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Kelsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: RE: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford As to places, it could be Linton near Bromyard or also Leigh Sinton which could be in Cradley, Herefordshire; Mathon, Worcestershire, or Great Malvern, Worcestershire. Steve Kelsy -----Original Message----- From: sylvia morgan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford Hi Has anyone any information to give me of a Margaret JONES born 1818 at Sinton(Hereford) thank you Sylvia ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== . ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Thanks to Polly and Stephen for their replies I am looking for my 2x grt grandmother on the 1851 census She was Margaret JONES born 1818 Kempley Glos but the only one of that name was a Margaret JONES born 1818 at Sinton(Linton) Hereford Sylvia

Hi Sylvia Do you think that could be Linton? Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "sylvia morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford Hi Has anyone any information to give me of a Margaret JONES born 1818 at Sinton(Hereford) thank you Sylvia ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== . ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Hi Has anyone any information to give me of a Margaret JONES born 1818 at Sinton(Hereford) thank you Sylvia

Polly, although that is true, many of my family come from that area which seems to also be called, the North Hill, Cradley; West Malvern(which is in Mathon), and Leigh Sinton. Christenings, marriages, and burials seem to be divided between the Cradley, Herefs; Mathon; and Leigh registers and you never know which one it might be in--yet they seem to stay residing in the same place. This was very confusing to me when I started many years ago as the Worcestershire records were available and the Herefordshire were not. My family (at least) seem to be back and forth between any of these 3 parishes. Steve Kelsey -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Kelsey [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford As to places, it could be Linton near Bromyard or also Leigh Sinton which could be in Cradley, Herefordshire; Mathon, Worcestershire, or Great Malvern, Worcestershire. Steve Kelsy -----Original Message----- From: sylvia morgan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford Hi Has anyone any information to give me of a Margaret JONES born 1818 at Sinton(Hereford) thank you Sylvia ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

As to places, it could be Linton near Bromyard or also Leigh Sinton which could be in Cradley, Herefordshire; Mathon, Worcestershire, or Great Malvern, Worcestershire. Steve Kelsy -----Original Message----- From: sylvia morgan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HEF] Margaret JONES Sinton Hereford Hi Has anyone any information to give me of a Margaret JONES born 1818 at Sinton(Hereford) thank you Sylvia ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

G'day all, I'm new to this list my research interests are around Blackmarsden, and the names; PARKER-DRING or DRING, and BURFORD 1850s the families eventually finished up in Redmarley Gloucestershire 1900 via Eldersfield in Worcestershire 1875. The other name interest is Hubert Thomas SPIERS possibly in Hereford Gaol 1875. Thanks Roy Tranter Canowindra NSW AUS.

Wednesday, March 29, 2006, 5:52:20 PM Hi Roger, In the 1841 census of Abbey Dore there is a John Powell aged 24 living with Richard aged 50 and Mary aged 45, also in the family there is William age 12 Richard age 9 Thomas aged 5 and Elizabeth 9 months Do these sound like your group ? Tony in Bright, Victoria. OZ R> Sorry I am new to this should have said Allensmore ,Madley , Abbeydore R> areas for census lookup R> R> Regards Roger R> ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== R> . R> ============================== R> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the R> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx R> ______________________________________________ R> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence R> http://www.netintelligence.com/email -- Regards, Tony