Hi Tony, I was christened in 1936 at Bartestree Convent and knew several of the Nuns during my youth. Two of my grandparents and I believe, a great grandparent are buried in the tiny cemetery (Warning Go with your antihistamine at the ready). My father and grandfather Andrew and Walter Richardson were the local Tarrington butchers and they supplied meat to the Convent over many years. To the best of my knowledge the nuns took into their care young women who had got into trouble (all sorts), and I am not aware that they actually had their children there or indeed looked after them there. Post war I am fairly sure they did not. They ran an extremely efficient Laundry Service, which we used for many years for the butcher's aprons etc. This presumably helped pay for the keep of the "girls" (all ages I think). John RICHARDSON in Waikato New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 27 May 2006 6:23 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [HEF] CONVENT OF OUR LADY OF CHARITY AND REFUGE, BARTESTREE, HEREFORDSHIRE Hi everyone, greetings from Sydney, Australia. My great aunt, Catherine Elizabeth Latham appears in the 1901 census at the Convent of Our Lady of Charity and Refuge. Beside the Nuns, there were a large number of young women recorded there as "inmates". Am I right in assuming that this was a place for unmarried mothers to go and have their babies? Catherine died in 1923 and although my grandmother (her sister) mentioned Elizabeth to me many years ago, she did seem a bit offhand about her. My grandmother died way back in 1967. Is there any way to find out more about the convent and its records? Here's hoping. Tony Smith [email protected] ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== . ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Would someone look for Jemima Cooper age 40 years with children in Parish Ross Piece No 1976. Folio 165b please. Best Regards Dorothy Crowshaw

Just so you know that I have posted the 1851 information as requested by Dorothy directly to her. Pauline Denmark

Hi I`m looking for a Catherine POWELL on the 1881 census. She was born Madley HERE. in 1854 father william(1827), sister Caroline(1856) and brother William(1863) I`ve looked in Ancestry and LDS but cant find her She had probably married by 1881 but I dont know her married name Sylvia

Tony, Thanks for the 1881 census information and possible death of Thomas John Meredith. This MEREDITH family is indeed proving challenging as they move from one county to another! I can see (not only with Thomas, but also his siblings) that I need to become more familiar with the details of geography in that part of the country and civil areas so I know when a place looks like a possibility. It seems that the Thomas MEREDITH and Elizabeth you have shared had no children. This makes finding out more about him even more difficult. But each additional clue seems to indicate he is indeed the one that was son of James MEREDITH and Elizabeth PITT. I had not considered looking south nor looking for Elizabeth and Elvira without Thomas. Appreciate your help from so far away. Needing to depend primarily for online sources is sometimes frustrating. But a reply like yours is most welcome. Thanks again. Ruth Ann ***************** On Mon, 29 May 2006 15:17:10 +1000 Tony <[email protected]> writes: Hi Ruth, As I told you in my earlier contact, my GGmother worked for the Merediths, here she is during 1881 census with the widowed Elizabeth Meredith. Elizabeth Meredith abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Head Aberystruth Monmouthshire Elvira Watkins abt 1858 Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales Servant Aberystruth Monmouthshire Very soon after the census was taken Elvira Watkins married and then left Elizabeth's service. Regards, Tony in Australia. mailto:[email protected] PS Perhaps this is Thomas, Deaths Mar 1879 Meredith Thomas John 50 Bedwelty 11a 62 Found FreeBMD ***************** Monday, May 29, 2006, 1:57:49 PM, you wrote: Thanks to Tony of Australia for his replies to recent message about Thomas John MEREDITH, christened/baptized in December 1828 in Clodock, Herefordshire, England. The clues he provided may prove helpful in continuing research on this family. Just wish individuals (or the informants) would give consistent details from one census to another! It appears to me that some of the records below may refer to the same individual, but each time a different place of birth is given! Because of this, do you have suggestions of additional things to do to determine if any of these are indeed the individual I am seeking? Plus, do you have details on any of these that could eliminate them from consideration? (details of censuses can be found on mailing list archives of the entire earlier message) Ruth Ann Baker United States

Thanks to Tony of Australia for his replies to recent message about Thomas John MEREDITH, christened/baptized in December 1828 in Clodock, Herefordshire, England. The clues he provided may prove helpful in continuing research on this family. Just wish individuals (or the informants) would give consistent details from one census to another! It appears to me that some of the records below may refer to the same individual, but each time a different place of birth is given! Because of this, do you have suggestions of additional things to do to determine if any of these are indeed the individual I am seeking? Plus, do you have details on any of these that could eliminate them from consideration? 1841 census-- a. His parents and some siblings were at Clyro, Radnorshire, Wales. b. A deceased brother had been living in Hay, Breconshire, Wales with his family. c. Another brother was living in Glamorganshire, Wales with his wife and young daughters. d. Do not know where Thomas John MEREDITH was at this time, but he would have been about 12 or 13 years old. 1851 census a. Llangattock, Breconshire, Wales shows a Thomas MEREDITH, lodger, age 3, (born about 1848) at Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales. Might this be a son of Thomas John MEREDITH (who had one brother born in Abergavenny)? b. Have not yet found Thomas John MEREDITH, about 22 or 23 years old, on this census. Have not yet been successful in finding a marriage record for Thomas John MEREDITH. 1861 census a. Ystraddyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales shows a Thomas MEREDITH, age 33, (born about 1828) at Hay, Breconshire, Wales. b. Llangattock, Breconshire, Wales shows a Thomas MEREDITH, born about 1829 at Llanvens, Herefordshire, England; his wife Elizabeth MEREDITH, born about 1824 in Berkley, Gloucestershire, England; a lodger Edmond MEREDITH, born about 1821 in Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales (have not yet come upon an Edmond MEREDITH in our family of ancestors); a nephew Lewis MEREDITH, born about 1840 in Bremen, Llanelly. 1871 census--on Mill Street, Llangattock, Breconshire, Wales shows a Thomas MEREDITH, born about 1828 in Cluddock, Herefordshire, Wales with wife Elizabeth MEREDITH, born about 1826 in Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England, and a servant girl. 1881 census--at number 10 Woodside Road in Civil Parish Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England, was a Thomas MEREDITH, beerhouse keeper, age 51, (born about 1830) at Littledean Hill (East Dean), Gloucestershire, England; wife Elizth. MEREDITH, born about 1824 in Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England; and a granddaughter, Jane Stephens, born about 1868 in Littldean Hill, Gloucestershire, England. Ruth Ann Baker United States

Thanks to Alec and Dennis for their replies to recent message about daughters of James MEREDITH and Elizabeth PITT. The clues they provided are most helpful as research of this family continues. Ruth Ann Baker United States

Hello: Does anyone know where I might write for a search for either a birth or a marriage record in Leominster in the time period 1789 - 1805? Thanks very much, Bonnie in Canada

Tony, See this TNA site. Phil Bufton Vice Chairman Herefordshire FHS http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/sidocs.asp?SIR=O53095 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 7:22 AM Subject: [HEF] CONVENT OF OUR LADY OF CHARITY AND REFUGE, BARTESTREE, HEREFORDSHIRE > Hi everyone, greetings from Sydney, Australia. > > My great aunt, Catherine Elizabeth Latham appears in the 1901 census at the Convent of Our Lady of Charity and Refuge. Beside the Nuns, there were a large number of young women recorded there as "inmates". > > Am I right in assuming that this was a place for unmarried mothers to go and have their babies? > > Catherine died in 1923 and although my grandmother (her sister) mentioned Elizabeth to me many years ago, she did seem a bit offhand about her. My grandmother died way back in 1967. > > Is there any way to find out more about the convent and its records? > > Here's hoping. > > > Tony Smith > [email protected] > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi everyone, greetings from Sydney, Australia. My great aunt, Catherine Elizabeth Latham appears in the 1901 census at the Convent of Our Lady of Charity and Refuge. Beside the Nuns, there were a large number of young women recorded there as "inmates". Am I right in assuming that this was a place for unmarried mothers to go and have their babies? Catherine died in 1923 and although my grandmother (her sister) mentioned Elizabeth to me many years ago, she did seem a bit offhand about her. My grandmother died way back in 1967. Is there any way to find out more about the convent and its records? Here's hoping. Tony Smith [email protected]

Hi All Like Phil I too will be on Duty on Bank Holiday Monday, but in my case 12 noon to 2pm on the Bromyard and District Local History Society stand at Lower Brockhampton House, where we are joining in their 60th Anniversary celebrations. There is also a Plant, Produce and Craft Fair, so plenty to interest all! The exhibition is also there over the weekend, on Saturday and Sunday (12 - 4), but I'm afraid that normal admission prices to the property (which is National Trust) apply on all days. Hope to see some of you there! Polly

Anyone who might be in Herefordshire this bank holiday, i will be doing a duty in the Weobley LHS Museum this Bank Holiday Monday from 11-30am till 4-30pm. See website for details of Weobley LHS www.weobleyhistory.info Phil Bufton

This event is taking place next Saturday 27th at the Pavilion Gardens, St. Johns Road, Buxton, Derbyshire, SK17 6XN. Best Wishes Carol O'Neill www.genealogyprinters.com

Try looking at this site http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/index.html Phil Bufton ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: [HEF] Ross Unon Workhouse > > > Hi, looking for information on Ross Union Workhouse where my Grandfather and his sister were born about 1880s. Any info. > Thanks, Cherry. > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information > > > ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== > . > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

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Does anyone know of a website or a map that shows the parish boundaries of Hereford city? I've never been there, and so I'm having trouble working out what are adjacent parishes and distances between parishes. The time period I'm looking for is late 1820s to early 1850s. Any help will be appreciated Thanks Sandra

Dear Sandra Apparently you can buy a Parish Map from the Hereford Record Office for £4.50. Here is the link to their publications page: http://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/2963.asp Liz

Hello Sandra You'll find a rough parish map at :- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genmaps/genfiles/COU_files/ENG/HEF/creighton_hereford_1835.html Regards Gordon Evans Wirral UK >Does anyone know of a website or a map that shows the parish >boundaries of >Hereford city? I've never been there, and so I'm having trouble >working >out >what are adjacent parishes and distances between parishes. >The time period >I'm looking for is late 1820s to early 1850s. >Any help will be appreciated >Thanks >Sandra

Hi Can anyone do a lookup please for my Gt Grandfather Enoch Smith son of Ephraim of Ross. Enoch age 19 was living at Brampton. Croft Cottage 1851 census with the Rice Family and would like to know the ages of Maria and William Tingle who was with them at the time as Daughter and Son in law.I think. Regards Dorothy Crowshaw.

In a message dated 5/21/06 5:03:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hello to all on the list; this is my first post. My 3xG.Grandparents were William Perks and Elizabeth Godsall who lived in Wellington from the mid 1850's. They had at least 4 children, Edward (my 2xG.Grandfather), William, Elizabeth & Fanny. I have been struggling big-time to trace William & Elizabeth's origins partly because I can find no reference to their marriage in the GRO indices and therefore no idea who their fathers were. Based on early census records, there were 2 possible Elizabeth Godsalls, both born in Wellington; Elizabeth Godsall, I am also descended from the Perks of Herefordshire, namely Benjamin George Perks thru his daughter Rachel May Perks. Have you any information on them? Sincerely, Renee L. Waring Owner Operator The Center for Waring Family History "We live as long as we are remembered." F = Luther Perks Waring m. Leah Jane Vaughn Clearfield Co., PA, USA GF = Edmund Luther Waring m. Eva Ruth Breth Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGF = Franklin Bowman Waring m. Florence Curley Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGF = Thomas Waring m. Margery Beers 1836 Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGGF = William Waring (Grandfather of William Griffith Waring) m. Gynnllian Hancorn 1793 Herefordshire, Engl. GGGGGF = Edmund Waring m. Anne Cooke 1748 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGF = William Waring m. Margery Barley (Barloe) 1719 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring (1665 - ) m. Ann Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring m .Margaret Hays 1662 Shropshire, England GGGGGGGGGF = Henry Waring m. Joanne Pierce 1639 Shropshire, England