Mandy, Welcome back. I think I'm right in saying that in 1841 census counties matched the county boundaries. After that they didn't. These are the POWELL in Staunton on Arrow in 1851 and as you will see they are in the Presteigne census district within Radnorshire. Surname Fore Name Age Parish Piece Folio District Census County POWELL Thomas 67 Staunton on Arrow 2492 416b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Susan 67 Staunton on Arrow 2492 416b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Edward 50 Staunton on Arrow 2492 416b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Mary 53 Staunton on Arrow 2492 417a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Thomas 65 Staunton on Arrow 2492 420a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Mary 33 Staunton on Arrow 2492 420a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Thomas 28 Staunton on Arrow 2492 420a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Maria 16 Staunton on Arrow 2492 420b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL James 68 Staunton on Arrow 2492 421b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Ann 68 Staunton on Arrow 2492 421b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Joseph 30 Staunton on Arrow 2492 421b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL James 12 Staunton on Arrow 2492 421b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Ann 08 Staunton on Arrow 2492 422a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL John 67 Staunton on Arrow 2492 423b Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL James 62 Staunton on Arrow 2492 424a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Mehala 29 Staunton on Arrow 2492 424a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL William 21 Staunton on Arrow 2492 424a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Annis 09 Staunton on Arrow 2492 424a Presteigne Radnorshire POWELL Ollive 03 Staunton on Arrow 2492 424a Presteigne Radnorshire Source: 1851 Census index by HEF FHS. I haven't checked if these appear on Ancestry but I suspect not, and if not, then it will mean looking at the census elsewhere. These don't appear on the S&N 1851 HEF Census CD that I have here. I don't have ready access to the PR's I'm afraid. Hope that helps a little. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: Mandy Whitham [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HEF] Staunton on Arrow Questions - Powell Hello List <snip> I have two questions about Staunton on (or upon) Arrow - I wonder if anyone can help. Firstly, I cannot find Staunton on the 1851 (found it on the 41 no probs but.) I've tried looking under nearby villages of Titley, Marston, Shobdon but none seem to cover Staunton. Did it get missed completely or am I looking in the wrong place altogether? Secondly, I have a lot of Powells born in Staunton on Arrow (yes, I know Powell is like SMITH to the rest of the country) but I wondered if anyone had access to the PRs for Staunton who might be able to help me sort out a few conundrums. Fingers crossed Mandy

Hello Mandy, Staunton on Arrow was an "Ancient Parish" - and was in Kington Registration District. Unfortunately I don't have the 1851 Piece Number readily to hand... I'd also mention that it was divided between Stretford and Wigmore Hundreds, and so is likely to've been listed in 2 places in the 1841. HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandy Whitham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:53 AM Subject: [HEF] Staunton on Arrow Questions - Powell Hello List After an absence of a couple of months (partially due to my pc crashing and having lost all my e-mail files, research folders and address book!) I am now almost back to normal - well at least enough to start researching again and asking questions. I have two questions about Staunton on (or upon) Arrow - I wonder if anyone can help. Firstly, I cannot find Staunton on the 1851 (found it on the 41 no probs but.) I've tried looking under nearby villages of Titley, Marston, Shobdon but none seem to cover Staunton. Did it get missed completely or am I looking in the wrong place altogether? Secondly, I have a lot of Powells born in Staunton on Arrow (yes, I know Powell is like SMITH to the rest of the country) but I wondered if anyone had access to the PRs for Staunton who might be able to help me sort out a few conundrums. Fingers crossed Mandy Mandy Whitham Office Assistance from a Distance Visit my webiste to see just what Virtually By Your Side can offer you or your business. www.virtuallybyyourside.co.uk ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== . ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I've found one additional question re Staunton - the village appears on the 1861 census as one page of 13 entries listed as Stanton on Arrow - the page is actually supposed to be a description of the area covered but no such luck. Any suggestions as to where I might find the inhabitants - or not at all? Mandy Mandy Whitham Office Assistance from a Distance Visit my webiste to see just what Virtually By Your Side can offer you or your business. www.virtuallybyyourside.co.uk

Hello List After an absence of a couple of months (partially due to my pc crashing and having lost all my e-mail files, research folders and address book!) I am now almost back to normal - well at least enough to start researching again and asking questions. I have two questions about Staunton on (or upon) Arrow - I wonder if anyone can help. Firstly, I cannot find Staunton on the 1851 (found it on the 41 no probs but.) I've tried looking under nearby villages of Titley, Marston, Shobdon but none seem to cover Staunton. Did it get missed completely or am I looking in the wrong place altogether? Secondly, I have a lot of Powells born in Staunton on Arrow (yes, I know Powell is like SMITH to the rest of the country) but I wondered if anyone had access to the PRs for Staunton who might be able to help me sort out a few conundrums. Fingers crossed Mandy Mandy Whitham Office Assistance from a Distance Visit my webiste to see just what Virtually By Your Side can offer you or your business. www.virtuallybyyourside.co.uk

Hello good Listers, On my GGgrandmother's marriage certificate, it is almost certain that the witness is her sister, CHARLOTTE [WICKS/WICKES] WHEELER. Charlotte is the first of the five girls born to Jonathon Somerset Wicks and Margaret Trotman in Tetbury, Gloucester. 1] Charlotte Wicks chr 6 Nov 1799-1888 did she marry John WHEELER in 1828 ? 2] Ann Wicks chr 7 Nov 1800-1896 Became Mormon, married George Grove Edward TAYLOR. First husband William Black of Ireland. Her husband George committed polygamy when he married Jane Baxter in 1851. Ann & George's son JOSEPH EDWARD TAYLOR became a Patriarch of the Mormon church in Salt Lake in 1904. Many wives & children. All this family ended up in Salt Lake City. 3] Mary Wicks chr 18 Mar 1803 ***my GGgrandmother --died 1845, after fourth birth 4] Margaret Wicks chr 1804-1810 died 6 years old 5] Eliza Wicks chr 17 Dec 1806-1843 did she marry a James Hodges in London ? As interesting as Ann Wicks Taylor is, it is CHARLOTTE WHEELER I am interested in at the moment. Can anyone see where she is in any census? In 1881 census, she is living at Hardwick Cottage No. 1 in CLIFFORD, Hereford --an 80 year old annuitant widow. A lodger organist is boarding. Just two houses away from the schoolhouse, and close to the Friary. Strangely, Charlotte's sister Mary who died in 1845 had married the schoolmaster of Clifford in 1838. JOSEPH ALLBUT left Clifford in the mid 1850s. I wonder why Charlotte is still there? So between 1838 and 1881 I know nothing about Charlotte Wicks Wheeler. Can anyone fill in the blank ?? Any thoughts much appreciated. Regards, Kitty PS. The name 'Allbut' is almost always mistranscribed. Sometimes 'Allbert'.

Hello List, I am a new member hoping to contact ........ a Margaret Longley who was researching Baggs. Unfortunately the email address given on this list is not working. I believe JAMES BAGGS b. Marstow m. ANN HALL was the sister of William Hall. My other Herefordshire interests are: Kings Caple: Oakley Hodges Terry Powell Hentland/Longhope Glos Brisland Jones Marstow/Goodrich Dangerfield James St Weonards/Welsh Newton Hall Stretton Sugwas Lawford Hoping to hear from anyone researching any of these lines. Regards, Patsy Witchell

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Hello List Have joined in case someone can help me. I would like to find the ancestors of Mary Ann Jones (yes, I know, common name!) - details below 1841 Mary Ann, 6, living in Michaelchurch Escley with mother Elizabeth and siblings. 1851 Not found - possible a servant 1861 Mary Ann Jones living in Michaelchurch Escley, age 30, single, with daughter Elizabeth, 2 (named after her mother?) Later in 1861 she married Henry Hall in Michaelchurch Escley, father given as John Jones Farmer, Witnesses James Jones (relation?) and Mary Ann Pritchard (Innkeeper's wife, living next to Mary in the 1861 census). In 1862 they had a daughter Sarah, and in 1867 a son James. Mary seems to have died in the same year as James was born. I have tried to find Elizabeth, her daughter b 1859 and also tried to find an appropriate James Jones, and found the following - James Jones 83, b Madley, his wife Sarah 78, b Much Marcle and Elizabeth, granddaughter 12, born Tupsley, all living in Tupsley. Did Mary name her later children after this James and Sarah? Her father John cannot be found. Sorry, this is so long - you have probably given up by now. Any ideas gratefully received. Joyce Weeks

I have found a member's submission on the IGI site for a marriage of my 3x great grandfather. If anyone has the PR's for the period 17th June 1830 in LEA would you be kind enough to confirm the marriage and date and details for me please!!! WILLIAM LAWRENCE AND MARY MEEK. Thank you Joan

Sophia Davies, my great grandmother, was a 4 year old in Kington workhouse with her 5/6 year old sister, Mary Ann Davies,in 1861. They were not in the workhouse in 1871 but probably in domestic service. On leaving there they both took their father's surname, Heritage. Both were born in Garnfach, Monmouthshire, not far from Brynmawr which was then in Breconshire. Can anyone please tell me the whereabouts of these girls in 1871? By 1881 Sophia was in Abergavenny, unmarried. Mary Ann was married to George Russell and living in Pershore, Worcestershire with an illegitimate daughter Elizabeth Ann Heritage, Marion Lambert born in Kington around 1868 ,and a son John Russell aged 2. Any help gratefully received.

An idea for Angela: Freebmd gives death for person Harriet Maddy in March quarter of 1839, at Hay. No age stated in the early indexes. Jo.

Hi Angie, I have looked on Ancestry and there are few Harriett MADDY. The one closest in age is in Cheetham in Manchester aged 20. Not born in LAN. She is a domestic servant working for the LODGE family. HO107/579/10 Folio 12 Page 17 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Cheetham 1841 rounds down ages for adults to the nearest 5 years and doesn't provide birthplace details Gerald -----Original Message----- From: Angela Jones [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HEF] HARRIET MADDY 1841 Census Hi list,I am trying to find out the whereabouts of Harriet Maddy born in 1816 in the Glasbury/Hay area.Is there anyone out there with access to the 1841 census for Herefordshire who could possibly have a look to see if she is listed there please? Her mother was possibly called Mary too. She does not show up in the Radnor or Brecon census for 1841 so I am hoping that she was 'just over the border'! Many thanks Happy hunting Angie

Hi list,I am trying to find out the whereabouts of Harriet Maddy born in 1816 in the Glasbury/Hay area.Is there anyone out there with access to the 1841 census for Herefordshire who could possibly have a look to see if she is listed there please? Her mother was possibly called Mary too. She does not show up in the Radnor or Brecon census for 1841 so I am hoping that she was 'just over the border'! Many thanks Happy hunting Angie _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d

Apologies if you have received this before can you please change my email address to [email protected] thanks Shirley Tyler

Many thanks to Alec, David and Phil on my place names query. Steve Kelsey -----Original Message----- From: Alec Whitfield [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HEF] Place Names There are two Ridge Hills on the 1:50,000 Ordnance Survey maps covering Herefordshire. The one David Meredith spotted is in square 5035. The other is midway between Much Marcle and Sollers Hope at square 6233. There is no Nestor Brook on the OS, but there is a Norton Brook Farm also in square 5035. The list of place and feature names on the Herefordshire 1:50,000 OS maps is on http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/alecwhitfield >From the home page, click on Hereford indexes. Regards, Alec Whitfield from North Herefordshire UK [email protected] ==== ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ==== ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

There are two Ridge Hills on the 1:50,000 Ordnance Survey maps covering Herefordshire. The one David Meredith spotted is in square 5035. The other is midway between Much Marcle and Sollers Hope at square 6233. There is no Nestor Brook on the OS, but there is a Norton Brook Farm also in square 5035. The list of place and feature names on the Herefordshire 1:50,000 OS maps is on http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/alecwhitfield From the home page, click on Hereford indexes. Regards, Alec Whitfield from North Herefordshire UK [email protected]

Stephen, Try www.multimap.co.uk and pop Ridge Hill in the search box. It returns Ridge Hill, an area just above callow. Have a play with the zoom facility for this area which should reveal 'Norton Brook'. Referring back to the 1901 census Mary Bishop's entry appears to read Nerton Brook... bet it should read Norton David Meredith Nottingham > What parish these are in and where they are? > Mary Bishop wife age 29 born Nestor Brook Hereford > Arvey Holmes son age 4 born Ridge hill do

Is anyone researching the Woolley family in Leominster / Docklow area Post 1800. Particularily interested in Isaac or Mary Woolley Phil Bufton

Hi. I am looking for the Kyte family. Sophia Kyte was born in 1781 and died before 1881. I don't know her husbands name but he died before 1841. She was born in Brobury. Their son was Edward was born in 1804 and died between 1871 and 1881. He was married to Margaret Maddy and was born in Staunton on Wye His son was Thomas born 1827 in Brecon. and was married to Harriett Lousia Howard. Thanks for your help, (hopefully!) Tom Kyte