Hi I was wondering if SKS could look up the marriage of Thomas AUSTIN to Sarah ??? I believe that Thomas may have married twice as there is such a large gap in the ages of the children. ie. His son James was born c1792 (I have not yet found his baptism). However, his daughter Sarah (my ancestor) was baptised in Tedstone Wafer in 1804 with parents listed as Thomas and Sarah Austin. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Regards Eveline

Kevin , Last year I needed the same. The Hereford RO did the research - with name date and parish given - for £3 and provided a photocopy for £0.30. They said it could take 15 days but was in fact it was just over a week. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: kevin mccormack To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: [HEF] Records Office Hi, Is there a researcher here who lives in Hereford? I will pay if someone can make it to the R.O. as i require a couple of photocopies. I have parish and dates.I will be going to R.O next year but I am famous for my impatience. Replies off list please. Best regards,Kevin. K.McCormack Co Cork,Ireland ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kevin I will be going - not quite sure when at the moment! Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin mccormack" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: [HEF] Records Office Hi, Is there a researcher here who lives in Hereford? I will pay if someone can make it to the R.O. as i require a couple of photocopies. I have parish and dates.I will be going to R.O next year but I am famous for my impatience. Replies off list please. Best regards,Kevin. K.McCormack Co Cork,Ireland ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Is there a researcher here who lives in Hereford? I will pay if someone can make it to the R.O. as i require a couple of photocopies. I have parish and dates.I will be going to R.O next year but I am famous for my impatience. Replies off list please. Best regards,Kevin. K.McCormack Co Cork,Ireland ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

While looking at the 1881 census of England I noticed for one of my ancestors children, the designation of "son" was in brackets. Why would this be?

Hallo Barbara, I saw this e-mail about Pencombe and wondered if you could have a look in your documents for John GRAINGER who married Elizabeth GITTOES at Pencombe on 2 Dec 1746. He is not a direct ancestor: my Graingers were millers in Hereford at this time, but I have been wondering if he is related to them, because they did move about quite a lot. Two got married in Pershore, Worcs. during the 18th c. (they were still described in the Register as "of Hereford St. Owen"), and others in London. I can't see John's christening in the IGI: a possible christening for Elizabeth is at Hope under Dinmore, Herefs., on 9 Dec 1722, and John and Elizabeth had a son John christened at Pencombe on 15 June 1748. Looking forward to hearing from you. Kind regards, Bert Pemberton (HFHS 1838)

Thank you Fiona and Polly for accurately locating the old Hazle Mill for me (on Hazel Farm of course). I would love to hear from anyone who knows of that particular (miller) Davis family. There is a very substantial heap of Davis and Davies people in Ledbury in the mid 19th century Thanks David

Many thanks Fiona, But the kind of thing that bothers me (as a foreigner) is that on the Historic Herefordshire site it says NGR SO 7026 3596 On the photo you have so kindly found it says SO 73 I don't know how close that makes the two places. Do you? I will go further into the English Heritage site now. Many thanks David on 2/9/06 9:49 PM, Fiona Banford at [email protected] wrote: > Hello David > I think I have found the mill - English Heritage have images of all listed > buildings up to a certain date. I have found HAZEL Farmhouse, a grade II > listed Granary on the following webpage > > http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/search/details.aspx?pid=1&id=152497 > > It may be worth searching the site in case there are any other images > > hope this helps > > regards > Fiona > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Daniell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:25 AM > Subject: [HEF] DAVIS family HAZLE MILL nr Ledbury early 19th century > > >> Hello Listers, >> >> Can anyone help me with the more recent history of Hazle Mill near >> Ledbury. >> It was a corn mill. Mentioned in the Domesday Book. >> >> I know the river Leadon has been diverted. I know that it is a historic >> site listed in Historic Herefordshire On Line. >> >> But is there still any building, weir, wheel etc left and how could I get >> a >> photo of it? >> >> My G G Grandmother was left a young widow in March 1824 with three small >> children, 7, 5 & 2 perhaps then living in Pauntley (not sure), husband's >> burial was in Redmarley where they came from. >> >> Enquiring because I think she just might have become Mrs Davis the >> miller's >> wife. I'm equally unsure but I think the 5 yr old above became in due >> course the wife of her stepbrother William Davis - is that permitted? >> >> David >> in springlike Auckland NZ >> >> ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, Can anyone help me with the more recent history of Hazle Mill near Ledbury. It was a corn mill. Mentioned in the Domesday Book. I know the river Leadon has been diverted. I know that it is a historic site listed in Historic Herefordshire On Line. But is there still any building, weir, wheel etc left and how could I get a photo of it? My G G Grandmother was left a young widow in March 1824 with three small children, 7, 5 & 2 perhaps then living in Pauntley (not sure), husband's burial was in Redmarley where they came from. Enquiring because I think she just might have become Mrs Davis the miller's wife. I'm equally unsure but I think the 5 yr old above became in due course the wife of her stepbrother William Davis - is that permitted? David in springlike Auckland NZ

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Hi David I've come late to your query and you seem to have had quite a few replies. If you are still looking for an up to date picture, my new house is "just around the corner" so I would be happy to try and get one for you. Kind regards Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Daniell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: [HEF] DAVIS family HAZLE MILL nr Ledbury early 19th century Hello Listers, Can anyone help me with the more recent history of Hazle Mill near Ledbury. It was a corn mill. Mentioned in the Domesday Book. I know the river Leadon has been diverted. I know that it is a historic site listed in Historic Herefordshire On Line. But is there still any building, weir, wheel etc left and how could I get a photo of it? My G G Grandmother was left a young widow in March 1824 with three small children, 7, 5 & 2 perhaps then living in Pauntley (not sure), husband's burial was in Redmarley where they came from. Enquiring because I think she just might have become Mrs Davis the miller's wife. I'm equally unsure but I think the 5 yr old above became in due course the wife of her stepbrother William Davis - is that permitted? David in springlike Auckland NZ ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David I'm not sure unless there are records elsewhere Fiona ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Daniell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [HEF] DAVIS family HAZLE MILL nr Ledbury early 19th century Many thanks Fiona, But the kind of thing that bothers me (as a foreigner) is that on the Historic Herefordshire site it says NGR SO 7026 3596 On the photo you have so kindly found it says SO 73 I don't know how close that makes the two places. Do you? I will go further into the English Heritage site now. Many thanks David on 2/9/06 9:49 PM, Fiona Banford at [email protected] wrote: > Hello David > I think I have found the mill - English Heritage have images of all listed > buildings up to a certain date. I have found HAZEL Farmhouse, a grade II > listed Granary on the following webpage > > http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/search/details.aspx?pid=1&id=152497 > > It may be worth searching the site in case there are any other images > > hope this helps > > regards > Fiona > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Daniell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:25 AM > Subject: [HEF] DAVIS family HAZLE MILL nr Ledbury early 19th century > > >> Hello Listers, >> >> Can anyone help me with the more recent history of Hazle Mill near >> Ledbury. >> It was a corn mill. Mentioned in the Domesday Book. >> >> I know the river Leadon has been diverted. I know that it is a historic >> site listed in Historic Herefordshire On Line. >> >> But is there still any building, weir, wheel etc left and how could I get >> a >> photo of it? >> >> My G G Grandmother was left a young widow in March 1824 with three small >> children, 7, 5 & 2 perhaps then living in Pauntley (not sure), husband's >> burial was in Redmarley where they came from. >> >> Enquiring because I think she just might have become Mrs Davis the >> miller's >> wife. I'm equally unsure but I think the 5 yr old above became in due >> course the wife of her stepbrother William Davis - is that permitted? >> >> David >> in springlike Auckland NZ >> >> ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello David I think I have found the mill - English Heritage have images of all listed buildings up to a certain date. I have found HAZEL Farmhouse, a grade II listed Granary on the following webpage http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/search/details.aspx?pid=1&id=152497 It may be worth searching the site in case there are any other images hope this helps regards Fiona ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Daniell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: [HEF] DAVIS family HAZLE MILL nr Ledbury early 19th century > Hello Listers, > > Can anyone help me with the more recent history of Hazle Mill near > Ledbury. > It was a corn mill. Mentioned in the Domesday Book. > > I know the river Leadon has been diverted. I know that it is a historic > site listed in Historic Herefordshire On Line. > > But is there still any building, weir, wheel etc left and how could I get > a > photo of it? > > My G G Grandmother was left a young widow in March 1824 with three small > children, 7, 5 & 2 perhaps then living in Pauntley (not sure), husband's > burial was in Redmarley where they came from. > > Enquiring because I think she just might have become Mrs Davis the > miller's > wife. I'm equally unsure but I think the 5 yr old above became in due > course the wife of her stepbrother William Davis - is that permitted? > > David > in springlike Auckland NZ > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fiona A very small world. Samuel Banford and then his son Thomas owned two properties in Pencombe - Bank House and Bank Cottage. I own Bank cottage and I have been tracking the people who have either owned or lived in the cottage and also Bank House sometimes called The Bank in the census as there are three properties in Pencombe with Bank in them - The Bank - Bank Cottage - Bank House and all got mixed up. One reason why I created a census schedule for the whole of Pencombe village covering 1841-1901 census entries and can help anyone with Pencombe queries for this time period. In the 1890s after Thomas Banford his son died, it was bought by the Bishop family and continued to be the Post Office for the village of Pencombe until 2002. I have quite a large file on the Banfords and also the wife of Samuel Banford, Elizabeth Kinsey and her background and connections to Thomas Kinsey who was the curate at Wacton from 1768. I have put this information on the list as there might be other people interested in the information but could you reply directly to me. Please excuse me if I do not reply instantly as I have just returned to the USA after 5 months in the UK in Pencombe and I am a little behind in linking up to everything. Kindest regards Barbara Haner [email protected] No photos or paintings exist of Court farm as the original was demolished by the Arkwright family c1863 except for the medieval stone barn which has a dovecote built into the front wall and hence is a listed building and was preserved by the Arkwrights >Today's Topics: > #1 Banford connections ["Fiona Banford" ><[email protected]] >X-Message: #1 >Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:52:18 +0100 >From: "Fiona Banford" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Banford connections >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi > >I'm new to the list and my main surname interest is BANFORD. > >The BANFORD's originated in Mathon then moved to Pencombe. > >Samuel BANFORD b.1788 Mathon, d.1853 Pencombe? >he was a carpenter and Wheelwright and is mentioned in the various >directories. > >His two sons Thomas BANFORD b.1819 Pencombe and John BANFORD b.1825 >Pencombe took over the wheelwrights business in Pencombe. > >The family lived at Court Farm, Pencombe and then at Bank House Pencombe. > >Apparently Court Farm was rebuilt in 1863. Is anyone aware of any old >photos/images of the farm? > >Any information on the Banford's would be welcome. > >Thanks > >Fiona

Nancy, Many thanks. I must certainly give it a try. Alec - It's raining!

Alec There is a Rootsweb List that would help with this question. They are a very friendly, helpful group who love to solve this type of puzzle. It's the "Old English" list, and here's how to access it: Topic: A mailing list for deciphering and interpreting documents from the British Isles, from earliest times to about 1900. This list is Intended for genealogists, family and local historians, etc. Subscribing. Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join OLD-ENGLISH-L, send mail to [email protected] with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. It's a great resource for all of us who are stuck on words or phrases from wills or census transcriptions and such. Good luck. Nancy in sunny Michigan, U S of A > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alec Whitfield" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:34 PM > Subject: [HEF] Presteigne streeet name. > > Hi! > > I have peroblem with a will of 1750. There is a reference to a street in > Presteigne. The word 'Street' is clear enough but the actual name is > unclear. It is short, probably four letters. The only possible on the > web > Multimap is 'High Street'. However the last letter has a curved descender > and so is 'g' or less probably 'y'. The penultimate letter is a small > circle and so 'a', 'e' or 'o'. > > Any suggestions are very welcome. I can then see if there is a fit with > the > remains of the first letter or two. > > Thanks in advance, Alec Whitfield from North Herefordshire UK > [email protected]

Sandra, Polly & Kevin. Thank for replys. Ford is the right length, but not shape. Definitely not s or f as there is no ascender (if that is the right word!). I will send you a scan Polly as soon as I can pull myself together. Regards to all. Alec W

Hello Alec, I have a street map and index of Presteigne and have been looking through it. Here are all the "Streets" of Presteigne: Broad Street, Ford Street Hereford Street High Street St Davids Steet Scottleton Street I also have ancestors from Presteigne so am very interested in the town. My maternal ancestors are all from around this area of North Herefordshire/Shropshire and Presteigne, so we have visited on a few occasions to search out more information. If you would be interested I could scan the map of Presteigne and send you. Best wishes Sandra Lee in Cambridge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alec Whitfield" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: [HEF] Presteigne streeet name. > Hi! > > I have peroblem with a will of 1750. There is a reference to a street in > Presteigne. The word 'Street' is clear enough but the actual name is > unclear. It is short, probably four letters. The only possible on the > web > Multimap is 'High Street'. However the last letter has a curved descender > and so is 'g' or less probably 'y'. The penultimate letter is a small > circle and so 'a', 'e' or 'o'. > > Any suggestions are very welcome. I can then see if there is a fit with > the > remains of the first letter or two. > > Thanks in advance, Alec Whitfield from North Herefordshire UK > [email protected] > > ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Alec If you can send me a scan or a photocopy I'll have a look. It is very hard to guess without seeing it! Regards Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alec Whitfield" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: [HEF] Presteigne streeet name. Hi! I have peroblem with a will of 1750. There is a reference to a street in Presteigne. The word 'Street' is clear enough but the actual name is unclear. It is short, probably four letters. The only possible on the web Multimap is 'High Street'. However the last letter has a curved descender and so is 'g' or less probably 'y'. The penultimate letter is a small circle and so 'a', 'e' or 'o'. Any suggestions are very welcome. I can then see if there is a fit with the remains of the first letter or two. Thanks in advance, Alec Whitfield from North Herefordshire UK [email protected] ---- ENG-HEREFORD Mailing List ---- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message