Hi There, The only SAVERY's in the 1851 census index for Kingsclere are :- John 40 266 184 born Withington Glos. Caroline 29 412 184 born Henly on Thames, Oxfordshire Ann Rebecca 14 001 184 born Kingsclere John J 2m 001 184 " There were SAVERY's in the 1891 census Henry Thomas and Eliza with children, would you like me to send you the index details for them? GODDARD's in the 1851 census index for Kingsclere :- Hannah 22 173 160 born Swallowfield Brks ----- Henry 51 001 168 born Kingsclere Ann 42 172 168 born Sulliamsland Bks (?Sulhampstead) William 14 001 168 born Kingsclere Jane 11 001 168 " George 8 001 168 " ------- Ann 61 001 187 " ---- Eliza 40 001 201 " ---- Thomas 64 001 224 " Mehetable 56 153 224 born Midgham ---- William 70 001 241 born Kingsclere Sarah 67 072 241 born Tadley ----- Mary 73 083 261 born Wolverton ------ Plus in Hannington Joseph GODDARD 29 030 269 born Wootton St Lawrence Hope this helps, Regards, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lewis" <jayell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Savery, Goddard, > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 03:35:05 EDT > VPickard1@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I think you will find that none of the people you mention were > actually born in Kingsclere > > > My gt grandmother Ann Savery was born in Kingsclere in > > 1843. Her father Joseph may have died in 1845. On the > > 1851 census she, aged 7 is > > The census index gives Ann's birth place as Ollif Shipton, Glos > > > living with grandfather James Savery 71, & uncle Henry > > James was born in Withington, Glos and whilst Henry is said to > have been born in Kingsclere if he is the same person recorded in > 1881 as born in North Oakley then this is a fairly common error. > North Oakley is part of Hannington parish which part of > Kingsclere Registration district. There are no Savery baptisms in > Kingsclere around the 1820s > > > 25. I think that Henry may be the same Henry Savery who > > served as Parish Clerk > > The Henry who was recorded as Surveyor Land Measurer & Parish > Clerk in the 1881 Census was born in North Oakley at which time > he was married to Mary A. ? age 69 born Sezincote, Glos. > Sezincote and Withington are not very far apart which suggests > Henry too may be linked to James through his father also called > James, a gamekeeper according to marriage entry. This James is > not recorded as deceased so may be found in the 1881 census. > > Mary Ann Savery was buried at St. Mary on 29 Jan 1887 and Henry > married Louisa Young a widow, formerly Butler on 2 Jul 1888, she > was 21 years younger than him. There do not seem to any children > of this marriage. > > A witness at the wedding was Henry Thomas Savery, a son of John > Savery. John was variously shoemaker parish clerk, sexton and > clock cleaner in Kingsclere, he was born ca 1809 in Withington so > is possibly a son of James. > > Henry Thomas had married in 1880, Eliza Butler, one of Louisa's > sisters. Louisa Young as she was then was a witness at this > wedding. > > > in Kingsclere from the 1870's to about 1910. > > Ann's mother had been Hannah Goddard. Where was she in > > 1851? I would be grateful for any help with this > > family. Valerie > > I can find no evidence that the Hannah Goddard born ca April 1825 > to John and Elizabeth (Dorman) married a Joseph Savery in > Kingsclere, but she could have married elsewhere, Hannington, for > example, as it is only a couple of miles away. I don't have > Hannington fiche to check this. > > Sorry to have to take away the Kingsclere link but hope the other > facts will be of use. > > --- > John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. > using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software > > Main Family Names in HAM are: > Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, > SMITH > Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) > > Main Family Names in GLA are: > GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS > and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >