This could be the right Alice, although the age is significantly different, also I think this George died in 1899 (FreeBMD has a George dying in Kingsclere Sept 1899 aged 55). FreeBMD records Albert Daniel GIRDLER as marrying June Qtr 1897 but his is the only name transcribed for that index page so far, which leaves open the possibility that he may have been a widower when he married Alice SEYMOUR if his first wife died shortly after marriage. One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access to it, according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR together with at least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 and hopefully the mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children were born Headley. If Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again point to the 1888 marriage being the right one. Regards Colin On Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:19 PM, John Lewis wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:42:46 +0100 > Colin Harris wrote: > > > Hello all > > > > Does anyone have any connections to the Alice SEYMOUR who married > > Albert Daniel GIRDLER in 1897? > > Colin > > I have recorded > > Alice Hussey, Born about 1858 - Woodlands > Parents John Hussey & ? ? > Married on 26 June 1888, St. Paul, Woodlands, to George Seymour ca > 1844 > (witnesses: Walter Seymour, Caroline Seymour 1867) > > Does she fit the other details you have > -- > John Lewis --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003

Hello Colin, Details of the Marriage Certificate for George SEYMOUR and Alice Hafsey (HUSSEY) George SEYMOUR age 40 years widower labourer of Kingsclere, father Henry SEYMOUR labourer. Alice HUSSEY age 30 years spinster of Kingsclere, father John HAFSEY (HUSSEY) labourer. Witnesses are Walter and Caroline SEYMOUR. ( Georges brother and sister in law). Married at St. Paul's Church, Kingsclere Woodlands. I am still checking the information that I have about George and the children and will get back to you, all of the Seymour family are on my tree. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Harris" <colin.harris4@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: RE: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897 | This could be the right Alice, although the age is significantly different, | also I think this George died in 1899 (FreeBMD has a George dying in | Kingsclere Sept 1899 aged 55). | | FreeBMD records Albert Daniel GIRDLER as marrying June Qtr 1897 but his is | the only name transcribed for that index page so far, which leaves open the | possibility that he may have been a widower when he married Alice SEYMOUR | if his first wife died shortly after marriage. | | One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access to it, | according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR together with at | least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 and hopefully the | mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children were born Headley. If | Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again point to the 1888 marriage | being the right one. | | Regards | | Colin | | | | On Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:19 PM, John Lewis wrote: | > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:42:46 +0100 | > Colin Harris wrote: | > | > > Hello all | > > | > > Does anyone have any connections to the Alice SEYMOUR who married | > > Albert Daniel GIRDLER in 1897? | > | > Colin | > | > I have recorded | > | > Alice Hussey, Born about 1858 - Woodlands | > Parents John Hussey & ? ? | > Married on 26 June 1888, St. Paul, Woodlands, to George Seymour ca | > 1844 | > (witnesses: Walter Seymour, Caroline Seymour 1867) | > | > Does she fit the other details you have | > -- | > John Lewis | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:27:50 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Details of the Marriage Certificate for George SEYMOUR and Alice > Hafsey(HUSSEY) > > George SEYMOUR age 40 years widower labourer of Kingsclere, father > Henry SEYMOUR labourer. Alice HUSSEY age 30 years spinster of > Kingsclere, father John HAFSEY (HUSSEY) labourer. Witnesses are > Walter and Caroline SEYMOUR.( Georges brother and sister in law). > Married at St. Paul's Church, Kingsclere Woodlands. I am looking thro' the 1891 census for Colin and spotted Walter Seymour with wife Caroline, stepson Stephen Wilmot 10, Louise Seymour 6, Albert Seymour 3, living at Plastow Green. I looked in my data base for a Caroline Wilmot and found that a Caroline Girdler born Oct 1843 Headly Common, married James Wilmot(t) about Sept. 1869 in Newbury Berks (I have no other details, but the info possibly came via Colin's Girdler interests) -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:14:32 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access > to it, according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR > together with at least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 > and hopefully the mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children > were born Headley. If Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again > point to the 1888 marriage being the right one. The only child I can find baptised to George & Alice Seymour is Matilda at St. Peter, Headly on 2 Apr. 1893, abode given as nr. Tan House, father lab. I haven't found any burial entry for Matilda nor as yet found her in the 1891 census but will start looking at the CDs next. I wonder if they are among those 'pesky' Methodists for whom we don't have easy access to the records. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:14:32 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access > to it, according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR > together with at least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 > and hopefully the mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children > were born Headley. If Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again > point to the 1888 marriage being the right one. tracked them down at Holly Lane, Headly George Seymour, head, 48?, general labourer born Kingsclere Alice, wife 28 -"- Elizabeth, dau, 6 scholar -"- Rose, dau, 4 -"- Henry ?, son, 1 -"- George's age has the usual line thro it which makes it hard to decipher and there is something written after Henry which may be another initial. Elizabeth is neither 5 nor 8 ?? -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:14:32 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access > to it, according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR > together with at least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 > and hopefully the mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children > were born Headley. If Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again > point to the 1888 marriage being the right one. HGS index to the 1891 census has George as 48, Alice as 28 which confirms what I thought and has Henry Geo. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software