Barbara If you don't get too inundated with requests I would be most grateful if you could have a look at the various Kingsclere bastardy papers to see if you can find any reference to my great great great grandmother Mary Ann Tidbury and her four illegitimate children. I did in fact e-mail the Hampshire Record Office to ask about the poor law papers for Sydmonton and they told me that nothing had survived! I have posted Mary Ann's details to the list before but I'll just briefly give a resume of the most recent information that I have: Mary Ann Tidbury was born on 29th March 1832 in Sydmonton, the daughter of David and Phoebe Tidbury. She had at least four illegitimate children: 1. Ellen Jane Tidbury, born on 18th July 1850 in Sydmonton [new info from birth certificate], baptised on 18th August 1850 at St Lawrence, Ecchinswell 2. George Napoleon Frederick William Tidbury, born on 30th May 1856 in Sydmonton, baptised on 17th July 1860 at St Lawrence (minus the Napoleon and Frederick) 3. Mary Ann Tidbury, born in the January quarter of 1863 in Kingsclere. The 1871 census for Greenham shows her place of birth as Ecchinswell. [New info from 1871 census: Mary Ann Tidbury, 38, dressmaker, living in Bishops Green, Greenham Common, with Mary Ann Tidbury, daughter, scholar, aged 8, and Matilda L Tidbury, aged 1. Mary Ann senior was shown as unmarried but this was crossed out and the word widow inserted instead. Mary Ann junior was listed as illegitimate but this too was also crossed out. There was also a ditto under the word illegitimate for Matilda but this wasn't crossed out!] 4.Matilda Lavinia Christiana Tidbury, born in the June quarter of 1869 in Sydmonton, baptised as an adult on 21st April 1889. I would also be interested to know if you can find the baptism of Mary Ann junior in 1863. The family had moved to Greenham Common by 1871 but they still seem to have been in Sydmonton or Ecchinswell in 1863. Thank you in advance for your help. Best wishes Debbie Kennett Researching: TIDBURY Greenham, Ecchinswell, Sydmonton, Alverstoke, London SAUNDERS Brockenhurst and London CRUWYS anywhere and everywhere CRUSE, BOUNDY, SQUIRE, DILLON, SYMONS, EASTMOND North Devon WIGGINS, RATT(E)Y, TRASK London and Middlesex WO(O)LFENDEN, BODGER, BERRYMAN, WALKER, UNDERWOOD Cambs/Hunts KENNETT All England (any with hunting connections)

Hello Debbie, Sorry no sign of the TILBURY family in any of the papers, the parents could have had a Contract Marriage that I mentioned about in a message a few days ago. There is no sign of the baptism for Mary Ann TILBURY.If Mary Ann's birth was registered in Kingsclere, she could have been baptised any where, at any time of the life, if she was baptised. I have looked for 10 years in Kingsclere and in Kingsclere Woodlands. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Kingsclere Research | Barbara | | If you don't get too inundated with requests I would be most grateful if you | could have a look at the various Kingsclere bastardy papers to see if you can | find any reference to my great great great grandmother Mary Ann Tidbury and | her four illegitimate children. I did in fact e-mail the Hampshire Record | Office to ask about the poor law papers for Sydmonton and they told me that | nothing had survived! I have posted Mary Ann's details to the list before but | I'll just briefly give a resume of the most recent information that I have: | | Mary Ann Tidbury was born on 29th March 1832 in Sydmonton, the daughter of | David and Phoebe Tidbury. She had at least four illegitimate children: | | 1. Ellen Jane Tidbury, born on 18th July 1850 in Sydmonton [new info from | birth certificate], baptised on 18th August 1850 at St Lawrence, Ecchinswell | | 2. George Napoleon Frederick William Tidbury, born on 30th May 1856 in | Sydmonton, baptised on 17th July 1860 at St Lawrence (minus the Napoleon and | Frederick) | | 3. Mary Ann Tidbury, born in the January quarter of 1863 in Kingsclere. The | 1871 census for Greenham shows her place of birth as Ecchinswell. [New info | from 1871 census: Mary Ann Tidbury, 38, dressmaker, living in Bishops Green, | Greenham Common, with Mary Ann Tidbury, daughter, scholar, aged 8, and | Matilda L Tidbury, aged 1. Mary Ann senior was shown as unmarried but this | was crossed out and the word widow inserted instead. Mary Ann junior was | listed as illegitimate but this too was also crossed out. There was also a | ditto under the word illegitimate for Matilda but this wasn't crossed out!] | | 4.Matilda Lavinia Christiana Tidbury, born in the June quarter of 1869 in | Sydmonton, baptised as an adult on 21st April 1889. | | I would also be interested to know if you can find the baptism of Mary Ann | junior in 1863. The family had moved to Greenham Common by 1871 but they | still seem to have been in Sydmonton or Ecchinswell in 1863. | | Thank you in advance for your help. | | Best wishes | | Debbie Kennett | Researching: | TIDBURY Greenham, Ecchinswell, Sydmonton, Alverstoke, London | SAUNDERS Brockenhurst and London | CRUWYS anywhere and everywhere | CRUSE, BOUNDY, SQUIRE, DILLON, SYMONS, EASTMOND North Devon | WIGGINS, RATT(E)Y, TRASK London and Middlesex | WO(O)LFENDEN, BODGER, BERRYMAN, WALKER, UNDERWOOD Cambs/Hunts | KENNETT All England (any with hunting connections) | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |