Hello Sue, Settlement Certificate. 1765 John SPICER, wife Ann & Sons James age 5 and daughter Sarah age 3 from Hannington. 1800 William SPICER of Overton served 3 years with Farmer SMALL of Mapledurwell who he left 5 years ago; Michaelmas 1795 hire by the Bailiff to the Prince of Wales for 7s (shillings) and 8d (pence) a week and a guinea (£1.1shilling) at Michaelmas, and remained in Kempshott under that agreement till Christmas when he moved with other servants to the Grange and hence to Critchill (Somerset or Critchell, Dorset) and then returning to the Grange where he remained for a year and 3 months for increased wages. Parish Removal Order to Kingsclere 1756. Cornelius SPICER, wife Sarah and children John 15/16 and Mary 11. from Romsey Extra Removal Orders from Kingsclere 1812 Daniel Spicer, wife Letitia and children John 3 and a half years and William 1 year, to Tilehurst, Berks. PR Vagrancy Passes and Examinations 1773 Cornelius SPICER, labourer apprehended as a rogue and vagabond at North Waltham, says that he was sent to Kingsclere by a Removal Order about 15 years ago and that he has not since gained legal settlement elsewhere. Vagrancy pass to convey him to Kingsclere 4 October 1773. Apprenticeship Indentures 1638 Apprentice John Fincent to John SPICER Yeoman trade Husbandry Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Matthews" <susan.matthews1@ntlworld.com> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk>; <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: RE: Kingsclere Research | Barbara | | Could you please look up Daniel and Letita ( Lydia) Spicer and their 2 | children John and William who had a removal order served on them 10/7/1812 | from Kingsclere to Tilehurst, I just wonder if there was anything else i.e. | did they get sent back. As Daniel was born in Hannington and Tilehurst was | Lydia's home parish. | | | Sue Matthews | Abingdon, Oxon | wiblin@one-name.org | | -----Original Message----- | From: Barbara Mallyon [mailto:BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk] | Sent: 07 March 2003 11:50 | To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: Kingsclere Research | | Hello All, | | If anyone has hit a brick wall about their Kingsclere and villages | ancestors, I now have the complete Parish Register for Kingsclere, | Kingsclere Woodlands and Headley. | Baptisms, Marriage Banns, Marriages and Burials all on microfiche. | | Please put your look-up requests on the Kingsclere List, your ancestor | could be linked into others family trees, as many of you have found out, | and the answers may help them. There is now the ability for some of you to | get your family trees back to the 1500s and 1600s, you only have to ask. | | Also I now have the Kingsclere Parish Records of Settlement Certificates, | Settlement Examinations, | Removal Orders to Kingsclere, | Removal Orders from Kingsclere, | Vagrancy Passes and Examinations, | Bastardy Examinations, | Warrants to Apprehend the Father of Bastards | Orders for the Maintenance of Bastards | Bastardy Bonds | Bastardy Documents | Apprenticeship Indentures | | The above photocopy information came from the Hampshire Record Office, | Winchester at 10p per page if anyone is interested. | | It is now up to you, we now have the information we need for our family | tree, let us use it. | | Regards | | Barbara Mallyon | Basingstoke, Hants, UK | BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk | Listowner | | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go | to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Thank you Barbara I think there all the same family except for William 1800. Daniel's born 1780 a Hannington parents were John and Ann, but I hadn't found any older children because the Hannington Registers are either unreadable or haven't survived John I had calculated was born c1740 from his age at death in 1817 just right for John mentioned on Cornelius's removal order. If it is not to much trouble could you look up the baptism' s for John 1740 Sarah 1741 and Mary 1745 and the marriage of Cornelius and Sarah possibly late 1730's and John and Ann late 1750's, just in case they where at Kingsclere. Thanks again Sue Matthews Abingdon, Oxon wiblin@one-name.org -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Mallyon [mailto:BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk] Sent: 07 March 2003 23:02 To: Sue Matthews; ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Kingsclere Research Hello Sue, Settlement Certificate. 1765 John SPICER, wife Ann & Sons James age 5 and daughter Sarah age 3 from Hannington. 1800 William SPICER of Overton served 3 years with Farmer SMALL of Mapledurwell who he left 5 years ago; Michaelmas 1795 hire by the Bailiff to the Prince of Wales for 7s (shillings) and 8d (pence) a week and a guinea (£1.1shilling) at Michaelmas, and remained in Kempshott under that agreement till Christmas when he moved with other servants to the Grange and hence to Critchill (Somerset or Critchell, Dorset) and then returning to the Grange where he remained for a year and 3 months for increased wages. Parish Removal Order to Kingsclere 1756. Cornelius SPICER, wife Sarah and children John 15/16 and Mary 11. from Romsey Extra Removal Orders from Kingsclere 1812 Daniel Spicer, wife Letitia and children John 3 and a half years and William 1 year, to Tilehurst, Berks. PR Vagrancy Passes and Examinations 1773 Cornelius SPICER, labourer apprehended as a rogue and vagabond at North Waltham, says that he was sent to Kingsclere by a Removal Order about 15 years ago and that he has not since gained legal settlement elsewhere. Vagrancy pass to convey him to Kingsclere 4 October 1773. Apprenticeship Indentures 1638 Apprentice John Fincent to John SPICER Yeoman trade Husbandry Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Matthews" <susan.matthews1@ntlworld.com> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk>; <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: RE: Kingsclere Research | Barbara | | Could you please look up Daniel and Letita ( Lydia) Spicer and their 2 | children John and William who had a removal order served on them 10/7/1812 | from Kingsclere to Tilehurst, I just wonder if there was anything else i.e. | did they get sent back. As Daniel was born in Hannington and Tilehurst was | Lydia's home parish. | | | Sue Matthews | Abingdon, Oxon | wiblin@one-name.org |