Good morning I am doing a bit of an exercise re the Bates/Matthews ,as follows ,I have sent a request to Berkshire for register copies of a number of marriages I already have a great many. Then I hope to set up somehow a list that shows these marriages and the witnesses. Nigel mentioned the Green name well I have 3 references to Green ,Ann Green m Peter Matthews at Hamstead Marshall 8th Oct 1758 George Matthews m Rose Green at Hamstead Marshall 19 Dec 1796 John Lewis lists a Mary Green Mother of Sophia Bates. John Bates /Elizabeth Matthews had the following children all at Kintbury Mary b1795 d 1797 John b 1797 Charles b 1799 Hannah b 1801 Sophia b 1803 Daniel b1805 Elizabeth b 1808 I will when I receive the copies be able to see if there is anymore coincidences. Regards Beverley Smith

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:14:33 +0100 "Beverley Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > I am doing a bit of an exercise re the Bates/Matthews ,as > follows , Me too :-) > I have sent a request to Berkshire for register copies of > a number of marriages I already have a great many. Then I hope to > set up somehow a list that shows these marriages and the > witnesses. Nigel mentioned the Green name well I have 3 references > to Green ,Ann Green m Peter Matthews at Hamstead Marshall 8th Oct > 1758 George Matthews m Rose Green at Hamstead Marshall 19 Dec 1796 > John Lewis lists a Mary Green Mother of Sophia Bates. > John Bates /Elizabeth Matthews had the following children all at > Kintbury Mary b1795 d 1797 John b 1797 Charles b 1799 Hannah b > 1801 Sophia b 1803 > Daniel b1805 > Elizabeth b 1808 I had come to that conclusion from looking at various IGI batches. In doing so I am pretty well convinced John Bate(s) was the one born in 1767 at Frobury Farm, Kingsclere. The names he gave his children , with the exception of Daniel, match those of siblings and there was a Daniel in this Bates line born in 1703 who is the only other Daniel I have found and was a great-uncle of John. I too had noticed the GREEN connection, she would have been mother of John as well as Sophia if my thinking is correct. I had noticed the Mathews/Green connection in the course of looking at Hampstead Marshall events but haven't made a connection to George Mathews as yet. I found these two URLs to be of relevance to Daniel Bates http://www.berksfhs.org.uk/journal/Mar2000/Mar2000BerkshireMachineBreakers.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~austas/proteus.htm the later link records that Daniel married and died in Tasmania after being transported on the 'Eliza' in 1831 I will update the Kingsclere Families website shortly, so it will include the Matthews family so far as I have been able to trace it and also the two Randall marriages to children of John Bates and some of their descendants. -- John Lewis Debian (Sid) with the GeneWeb genealogy package