On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:40:05 +0000 (GMT) JANE STAPLEY <[email protected]> wrote: > Have now found out that he was called Frnacis James Collins or so > it says on the Marriage BMD site and was married July Sep Qtr 1884 > to Mary Prentice, many thanks for any info 1861 Census, Cottage, Kingsclere: William Collins, head, M, 30, farmer of 21 acres, Ecchinswell Jane, wife, 29, Ecchinswell Lucy, dau, 8, Ecchinswell John W, son, 5, Kingsclere Francis J, son, 3, Kingsclere Kate, dau, 6m, Kingsclere The 'Cottage' seems to have been somewhere near Knightsbridge rather than Kingsclere proper. FreeBMD has: Marriages Dec 1853: Collins William & Hart Jane, Kingsclere 2c 461 William is probably the one born about 1831 in Ecchinswell to Francis & Sarah as mentioned in previous email. There is no baptism for him in Kingsclere/Ecchinswell so he may have been baptised at Ufton Court RC but the IGI only covers baptism there to 1828ish I don't have a Jane Hart born ca1832 in my database nor is there one in the Hants Baptism Index so she will need some digging out see http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere?i=22844 HTH -- John Lewis Debian (Sid) with the GeneWeb genealogy package